Here are the wheels I went with.


http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/1/2/Wheel.jpg

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Nice. Have another pic that shows the entire car?

Nice. Have another pic that shows the entire car?

I second that...and I really LOVE those rims!:thumb: Also, nice hood emblem I saw on your other pic in the gallery. I am still looking for the correct part number for that emblem so I can order one for my ride.

Can't wait to see a pic of your entire ride!!!;)

WOW those look great!!

What about some details......offset?

Are they actually AR? I didn't know they finally came out with them for 5x110?

Where did you get them?

Those look good up close.
But like the others have said........... we need more pics and more information about those beauties! ;)

Wow! Those are sharp! Make , model, cost?


Goose

What about some details......offset?

Are they actually AR? I didn't know they finally came out with them for 5x110?

Where did you get them?


Did some looking, they make a "you call it" version....

http://www.newstalgiawheel.com/wheel_detail.asp?subcat3=1011103

Did some looking, they make a "you call it" version....

http://www.newstalgiawheel.com/wheel_detail.asp?subcat3=1011103

WOW. Those are pretty pricey. But they sure do look sweet. I would also love to see a full pic of the HHR with these installed.;)

Here are some pics of whole car.

I bought these about a year and a half ago and can't find the sheet with the details. They're 17's and fit perfectly and used factory tires. I paid $680 total ($170 each) which included shipping and custom drilling for 5 on 110.

I'll try to see if my buddy can track down the place we dealt with.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/1/2/HHRWheels007.jpg

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/1/2/HHRWheels009.jpg

Looks sweet!!

WOW! That is 1 SHARP HHR!!!!!:nuts: :thumb:

Excellent combination with the color Black :thumb: :thumb:

:thumb: :yourock:

OH YEA! That's what I am thinking too! Sweet!

I checked American Racing's site and don't find and of these for our application....please let us know more!

They look nice.

But I can't believe you let them put weights on the outside lip. :eek:

Those look great.

Thanks for the compliments. I've been pleased with them so far. Being chrome, they are very low maintanance.

Hey did you ever find out where these wheels came from?? like where you bought them from.

I would like to know more about these wheels also.

You would have to custom order them through American Racing to get them drilled to our bolt pattern of 5x110. Very nice wheels. :thumb:

NIce wheels!

They look sweet on your HHR,:thumb: have the same set on my vette but they are 20s. http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/7/8/3/3/holidayswiththefamily010.jpg

nice nice nice

but someone said pricey? is 700 that pricey for a set of sorta custom rims getting drilled to ur application?

doesnt seem like it to me.. only i think id want 18 or 19s

They look KILLER on the HHR, But they don't look like the Torq. thrust wheels. They llok like the bulliet mustang wheels with the fatter bars. Plus the emblem on the TTII wheels is a screw on type of cap. These look like pop in style. What ever they are I still like them the best of all I have seen.:thumb:

These are Mustang Bullet type redreilled, They stick out a bit, the offset is not correct.



http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q199/diskullman/saaabint002.jpg

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/1/2/Wheel.jpg

Thos are some bad ass wheels. I want those now.

And these are AMERICAN RACING TORQUE THRUST II WHEELS. See the screws that hold the center cap. The other wheels don't have that.
https://www.newstalgiawheel.com/images/inventory/new/FW_1003_500.gif

Thos are some bad ass wheels. I want those now.[/QUOTE]

great! so maybe I could buy yours.....:cool: any tt's I have seen are for rwd trucks, what's the difference?

Here are some pics of whole car.

I bought these about a year and a half ago and can't find the sheet with the details. They're 17's and fit perfectly and used factory tires. I paid $680 total ($170 each) which included shipping and custom drilling for 5 on 110.

I'll try to see if my buddy can track down the place we dealt with.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/1/2/HHRWheels007.jpg

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/1/2/HHRWheels009.jpg

That is one sweet black HHR, congrats to you!! Todd (Uma)

Gearhead, Any more info regarding where you sourced those?

Those are a really nice looking wheel. I have 17" chrome torq thrust AR wheels on my 55. They were custom ordered through the AR custom shop with special offset to allow the air ride to come all the way down. Through the custom shop, they were more than twice what you paid so I would say you got a GREAT deal.

The other thing interesting is that mine are chromed, but the only thing chromed is the center section. The outers are still polished aluminum. I really like that because you can deal with any slight tire machine rash by just buffing it out, but the centers are easy to keep clean.

Would love to hear exactly what wheel yours are and where you sourced them.

They are not Torque Thrusts, generic Mustang Bullit wheels redrilled to 5 x 110

those are sweet

Looks VERY nice.

lookin nice on that black car.. good job :thumb:

those are the exact rims that I have been looking for, I think those look really sweet on that black hhr.

i kinda wonder how it'd look with 17s in the front and 18s in the back, hmm.

The new Cragar's are out, check out my pics in this thread.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?p=402636#post402636

id really like to know exactly what those wheels are and where you got them at. they r freakin sick!!!!! id love to have a set for my baby

I like that

Gearhead,

"I'll try to see if my buddy can track down the place we dealt with." Hopefully, you can find the sheet with the details.

Especially the exact name of 'em...Also, are they available in 16"s?

Appearantly, they aren't Torque Thrust II's, they have the screw on caps..

Mo

Hi guys,

i'm a HHR owner living in Switzerland and just stumbled across this forum, while i was looking for retro wheels to fit my ride.

I agree these wheels look sick and i'd love to own a set of them, even though i'd prefer the black Torque Thrust Ms on my black LT.

http://adaptivestrategies.com/AR105MSB-Torque-Thrust-M-Shebly.jpg

From what i read so far, all of these AR wheels will have to be custom drilled in order to fit our 5x110 bolt pattern. No problem.

However i wonder what are the correct dimensions - especially the width and offset.

I'd like to go as wide as possible with the rims, without modifications on the car, or facing problems (rubbing, etc.)

Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated.

Alright guys, i'm a bit confused now.

I just read that the bolt pattern of the Shelby Torque Thrusts is 5x114,3.

Now it seems that some people are redrilling them to fit on the HHR. But i wonder how that works, if each hole has to be moved about 7mm closer to the center.



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Alright guys, i'm a bit confused now.

I just read that the bolt pattern of the Shelby Torque Thrusts is 5x114,3.

Now it seems that some people are redrilling them to fit on the HHR. But i wonder how that works, if each hole has to be moved about 7mm closer to the center.



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I'm pretty sure that he said that he had them custom drilled. From what I understand, some companies will manufacture wheels (I think they call them blanks) with no holes so that they are able to custom drill per customer specifications. I can only assume that is what he had done.

Sorry, i obviously made a mistake.

To make the Mustang wheels fit on our HHR, each hole has only to be repositioned about 2.1 mm closer to the center. That should be possible.

If you look close on the first closeup picture of the wheel, it sems as if each lugnut is slightly off center within the round groove surrounding it. Specifically each nut sems to be closer to the center of the wheel, which would confirm that redrilling is possible.

I don't think that "blank" whels without holes are required for this. I assume that even though redrilling the 114.3 Mustang bolt pattern would result in slightly oval shaped holes, the five bolts will later hold the wheel firmly in place, so that road safety is ensured. Can anyone confirm this?

Further to that: Is it road legal to rive such custom drilled wheels? Are there any long term risks? Obviously the redrilling has to be one 100% accurate by an expert.

Hey. Can The Cavalier split spoke 16's be re-drilled to fit an HHR?. I loved the rims on my 03 Cavalier LS Sport.

They are the nicest wheels I've seen in a long time. But I always liked Cragars when I was a kid, so this really brings back that look, but in a modern way.

http://custom-wheels-n-rims.com/images/cragar-wheel.jpg

I don't know what it is about the Cragar SS wheels... they've been around since I was a kid and they stil hold the appeal they did back then... its like Stars and Stripes, Apple Pie and Cragar! And they lok good on just about anything....except toyotas

Had these on a few of my RWD vehicles back when... Truly an American Classic. American racing has a wheel AR-Aero-16 or 17F. I got them for my 90 Lumina because it reminded me of the Cragar SS. I cant post pic of this wheel but if someone can please do. If I can get em for the HHR I would but that 5/110 bolt pattern is limited.

Hi folks,

The Torque Thrust M with black spokes would be the single best thing i'd like for my black LT. Unfortunately they aren't available in our bolt pattern and also don't have the correct offset. This means that

a) there is no way i can legally drive them here in Switzerland, as redrilled wheels are said to be unsafe and therefore prohibited by law. If i get checked, i risk an insane fine and even the loss of my drivers license. Not to mention if i had an accident with these...

b) even the smallest width of 8J would probably stick out slightly due to wrong offset.


So i've googled my a$$ off to find an alternative and the new Cragar 600 FWD are the closest thing i could come up with. I know - the center seems a bit weird at first, but once you get used to that they become quite appealing.

They even come in (matt) black with a machined lip, but i'd prefer the shiny black with chrome lip look of the Torque Thrusts. So my idea is to get the chrome Cragars and have them painted black, leaving only the lip in chrome.

Here are some quick renderings of the different versions. What do you guys think?

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/8/6/5/torquethrustm1.jpg

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/8/6/5/ssfwdpainted2.jpg

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/8/6/5/ssfwdchrome3.jpg

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/8/6/5/ssfwdblack4.jpg

Here are some quick renderings of the different versions. What do you guys think?

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/4/8/6/5/torquethrustm1.jpg



I like the deeper chrome rim look on these and the spokes look much better IMO

Very classy and fast looking.

Sorry, i obviously made a mistake.

I assume that even though redrilling the 114.3 Mustang bolt pattern would result in slightly oval shaped holes, the five bolts will later hold the wheel firmly in place, so that road safety is ensured. Can anyone confirm this?


Sorry, you made another mistake. When wheels are correctly redrilled the old hole is completely gone. A larger hole is made with a new center point to the exact bolt pattern. A steel insert is pressed into the wheel making it stronger than having an aluminum seat. A few high-end cars with aluminum wheels have these very same inserts from the factory. It is more costly and that is why mainstream cars don't use the inserts.
Hope that clears everything up as to changing bolt patterns is aluminum rims.
I know this to be a fact as this is what I do all day long at my machine shop in Largo Florida. :smile:http://chevyhhr.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=59&pictureid=456

Thanks Harley,

that's actually great news. I'm not a technician, which is why i can only rely on iformation i find on the internet, on forums like this one, etc.

I was told by a local wheelshop that redrilled wheels are extremely dangerous to use, as they lose all stability due to the oval holes. Obviously they were not aware of the steel inserts you describe.

However i asked two American Racing online stores in the US and both offered to send me the wheels in stock condition and handle the redrilling myself. None of them offered to custom drill the wheels before shipping, which i would prefer.

Can you suggest me any onlineshop that customizes the wheels before shipping?

Can you suggest me any onlineshop that customizes the wheels before shipping?

Try wheelpros.com (http://wheelpros.com/)

Hmm, they only refer to their German distribution partner - a company called americanwheel.de

I already wrote them a mail, as they are also the official retailer for American Racing wheels closest to Switzerland (as found on the AR website) and they will not redrill them, as this is illegal in most European countries.
They say if a wheel was not specifically made to fit on your car: forget it. :wtf: Where's the spirit of customizing and hot rodding? :(

Further to that on americanwheel.de the TT Ms cost almost 400 USD (stock condition), compared to 170 USD offered by Jegs or other US dealers thats a real rip-off.

Wish i could just walk into a wheelshop like in the states, have them fit the rims to my car and buy them - without all that hassle. Because when i purchase a set for around 2k USD, only to find out they might not fit...

Anyway i'll look around some more and see if i can find a US dealer that redrills them properly AND ships to Europe. If not i will go for The Cragars and repaint them. They are still much better than what's available here in Europe.

The Torque Thrust M is a RWD wheel. Even if you redrill or make inserts for them to fit the HHR will they be OK to run on a FWD? I cant really see a lot of differences in FWD and RWD wheels other than offset?

Offset is everything to a FWD car, use a RWD offset and the smallest problem will be evil handling, right up until the CV joints fail.

BTW, Romeo rocks, in the 70's and 80's in the US there were what was known as "Uni-Lug" wheels, which where basically oval holes for the lugs and a special washer and lug nut that would self-center. They quickly fell out of favor because the lug nuts would loosen during normal driving.

WOW!!

Uni-lugs... I'd forgotten all about those

Uni-lugs :eek: Had a set of Keystone Classics that had them.. Loved the look of the rims.
Hated the washer BS..

Phew!! Trying to educate the masses on a blog or thread is almost impossible. Nowadays, (not back in the 70's or 80's) wheel redrilling is not archaic. In fact it is more of a science now than ever before. To change the bolt pattern in a wheel is childs play when it come to a difficulty scale. While it has limitations as far as just what can be achieved it is no longer a "what if" type of circumstance. For the uneducated it may seem scary or even illegal (unsafe). The new Honda Accords have aluminum wheels with steel inserts in the lug hole seats. This is a much stronger lug hole seat than not having an insert at all. When aluminum wheels are redrilled the finished product has the same steel insert and look about it. To understand what process is performed would give a fresh new meaning to the word "redrilled". Not understanding the complete process would lend to thinking along the lines of oval holes, mis-shaped, shoddy lug holes seats and unbalanceable wheels that loosen up with every revolution as it goes down the road. I think I stated this before, the original hole is gone. The new hole takes it character with the presents of a steel insert (not a washer) pressed into the newly drilled location that coordinates to the specific required bolt pattern (PCB).

Thanks (http://bullwinkle.toonzone.net/knowall.wav)

I understand what you are talking about.

I believe everyone else here understands that re-drilling a bolt pattern is NOT simply egging out the holes.

I brought up the Uni-Lug to illustrate that even when the manufacturer made them that way, they did not work well.


Peace. :thumb:

After MUCH research on getting a set of American Torque Thrust 2's for an HHR I have concluded that these pics of a black HHR with them are Photoshoped. American Racing won't make the wheel with the offset we need in a 7" wide wheel. Wheels like the Torque Thrust with a "stepped" rim will not allow the center to be placed close enough to the outer edge. As far as I can see their are only 2 choices: 1. Get a set of Eagle 192's with the spokes at the outside edge of the rim. 2. Have a set of custom made wheels at $550 PER WHEEL.

Prove me wrong......please

Euromax 612's

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/7/3/2/0/DSC00088.JPG

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/7/3/2/0/DSC00089.JPG

I understand that the chrome version has been discontinued, but there are still silver painted and black versions made.

The Torque Thrust II in question are not even Torque Thrust II wheels. They are not photoshoped, they are Mustang Bulliett wheels that have been redrilled to make work.
TT II are not made with an high enough offset to work, not to mentin the wrong bolt pattern. After talking to American Racing about trying to get some made...Any made like the Salt Flats etc. They said it is not that they don't want to it is that they can't build the fitment. But you can get a set of Mustang Bulliett wheels and have they REDRILLED.

those look sharp 8-D

Harley,
I think they're right on the previous posts, these are actually Mustang Bullits, can you suggest which wheel would be the easiest to redrill. They've told me that won't do any changes, so having to buy a set, what is closest and easiest to change to fit the HHR. I really like these and want to get a set for my black HHR LT.
Appreciate you sharing your expertise with me and the rest.
Thanks again

Anyone running these,

http://www.jegs.com/i/Cragar/260/600G6700%252B40/10002/-1?parentProductId=1192828

I really like them but it says they are a 5 x 100 blot pattern. Does that mean they will have to be redrilled? I've never had to deal with redrilling in the past. I usually have been able to find a wheel that fits the vedhile I have that I really like. The HHR has been the exception.

Anyone running these,

http://www.jegs.com/i/Cragar/260/600G6700%252B40/10002/-1?parentProductId=1192828

I really like them but it says they are a 5 x 100 blot pattern. Does that mean they will have to be redrilled? I've never had to deal with redrilling in the past. I usually have been able to find a wheel that fits the vedhile I have that I really like. The HHR has been the exception.

Yes they would have to be redrilled to a 5 110 pattern, but as Harley explained on this post, it's not a hard thing to do and is strong. I have the mustang bullitt wheels redrilled on my HHR. If you need specifics I'd contact Harley, he's gone into some detail in this post :one:

Without being able to see the center section of the Cragar, because of the cover, it would be difficult to say they can or can not be re-drilled...... I would imagine so, but Harley is the man to ask.

I would check out Crager's website, I saw a set of these in chrome on a HHR last fall in Burlington Vermont at the Northeast streetrod nationals. Looked pretty good but I think the Euromax 612's look better.

I would check out Crager's website, I saw a set of these in chrome on a HHR last fall in Burlington Vermont at the Northeast streetrod nationals. Looked pretty good but I think the Euromax 612's look better.

I agree about the Euromax 612's.. Bummer they discontinued them in chrome.. Because of poor chroming, I suspect..