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1Panel2NV
09-30-2007, 12:26 PM
Can they be removed from the stock wheels? I was told by Firestone that they can't. Anyone know how much new ones are? (Firestone couldn't tell me)

1Panel2NV
09-30-2007, 12:58 PM
This is for a 2008, by the way.

Old Ray
09-30-2007, 02:13 PM
Can they be removed from the stock wheels? I was told by Firestone that they can't. Anyone know how much new ones are? (Firestone couldn't tell me)

This is dated but might help? Not sure if the link works, my dial-up is cranky today. :(
http://www.hunter.com/pub/undercar/TECHLINK/index.htm
:smile:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/3/6/2/7/2.jpg

Snoopy
09-30-2007, 02:30 PM
Can they be removed from the stock wheels? I was told by Firestone that they can't. Anyone know how much new ones are? (Firestone couldn't tell me)

Hey "Panel".......

I am assuming this........but yes, because they, as recommended by the manufacturer, need to be serviced (or rebuilt) everytime the tire is "broken" from the wheel.

Also, asked this question at a NATIONAL tire seller. He stated they would remove the OEM sensors and install them, after rebuilding, into non OEM custom wheels.

I guess the OEM sender/transmitter, that is attached to the sensor, is proprietary.:roll:

1Panel2NV
09-30-2007, 06:51 PM
The sensor itself can be removed easily, the valve stem, I'm guessing, can then be pushed out. If I ever want to sell the stock wheels though, I'm going to have to buy another set of sensors anyway. A little help from the part number guru's? ;)

Edit: Nevermind, I already had a picture of the pn (15922396) :roll:
$30 a piece on gmpartsdirect. :eek:

I know I'm not the only one with aftermarket wheels. What did you guys do?

Took a few pics:

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/mavin42/sensor_1.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/mavin42/sensor_2.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/mavin42/sensor_3.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/mavin42/sensor_4.jpg

shaginwgn
09-30-2007, 07:29 PM
I know I'm not the only one with aftermarket wheels. What did you guys do?


The tire pressure monitors is on 2008+ models for the HHR, so you may be the first to install aftermarket wheels on 2008 and deal with the problem but not the last. I would think whoever you get/got your aftermarket wheels from they should help you.

schuft
10-01-2007, 05:23 AM
I'm getting ready to install some Smoothie II's on my Panel and was debating on what to to about the sensors. When you ordered them did they come with the valve stem also or just the sensor?

1Panel2NV
10-01-2007, 05:54 PM
I haven't ordered them yet. I assume they come with the valve stem also, since it's different than a regular one. I'll probably go to the dealer pretty soon and see what they say, because the DIC warnings are getting annoying. I also assume that you will have to go to the dealer anyway to get them programmed.

calgaryhhr
10-01-2007, 06:07 PM
Question about the 2008 tire pressure monitor:

On the DIC readout does it show you the pressure in each tire or is it one the systems which display a warming when pressure drops in one of the tires and then you have to figure out which tire it is?

My 2000 Impala had the latter type of system but I know digital pressure readouts are available on some GM models (usually the more expensive ones.)

1Panel2NV
10-01-2007, 06:19 PM
Each tire

hvrod
10-02-2007, 09:48 AM
Good info.
I found this about Cadillac and corvette wonder if this is the similar procedure to reprogramm?

http://www.etools.org/files/public/Tire_Pressure_Monitoring_System_Update_from_GM.pdf

1Panel2NV
10-02-2007, 05:39 PM
I think that's the same info Old Ray provided.

I'm not sure about programming them. The sensors on the HHR are different, so there could be a different procedure. I'm going to my dealer tomorrow to find out for sure, hopefully.

calgaryhhr
10-02-2007, 05:59 PM
Am I correct when I say that as of 2008 it's federally mandated that all new vehicles have a tire pressure monitoring system?

I've heard somewhere that this is now the case up in Canada.

I remember trying to get new tires put on stock rims for a vehicle with a tire pressure monitoring system (the type which was mounted on the inside of the rim.) Many of the shops here in town said that they would not do the work because if they were to break the sensor during the tire change they would be liable for a new one (which could be expensive on some vehicles.) I finally found a shop that did the work and they didn't even break the sensor.

By not having to deal with that problem over the last couple of years I don't know if things have changed or not. Is it common for shops to be afraid of working on these types of rims? If all new vehicles will have these systems do you expect shops to learn to deal with these things?

an08HHR
10-02-2007, 09:15 PM
I read that the NHTSA mandates all vehicles under 10,000 pounds be equiped with a TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) that are sold after Sept 1, 07.http://www.corral.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=55&Itemid=2

stick
10-02-2007, 10:49 PM
Sounds like a pain in the but. Glad I have an '07. Heck, just walk out there once a month while giving her the weekly bath and check the tires while cleaning the rims and tires. :D

SIRESMERPH
10-03-2007, 12:27 AM
Sounds like a pain in the but. Glad I have an '07. Heck, just walk out there once a month while giving her the weekly bath and check the tires while cleaning the rims and tires. :D

yep, same here

1Panel2NV
10-03-2007, 04:45 PM
Without the sensors, every time you start your car, it dings and the DIC throws a couple warnings at you and the low pressure light flashes while it's running.

The service department at the dealer said that the original sensors can be reused, but the valve stems need to be replaced so the sensors will sit against the wheel. They said they can get valve stems for various aftermarket wheels, they just need to measure them so the sensor will be in the right spot. Couldn't get an appointment until Monday evening, so more waiting...

At this point I'm still not sure if other shops can do this or if you have to take it to your dealer.

an08HHR
10-03-2007, 06:26 PM
I have an 02 Impala with the TPM system and to calibrate it, there is a procedure by using the Disp button on the radio and other buttons, to go through a step process to reset it and then you have to drive the car and it then finishes the recal in about 8 minutes. This system doesn't tell me which tire is low so I have to use a gauge on each to verify the pressure is correct. My wife has a 08 Jeep Compass and on the DIC it shows all four wheels and the pressure of each.

1Panel2NV
10-10-2007, 05:39 PM
I'm back from the dealer. They were able to use the original sensors and valve stems, so I just had to pay for labor, which still isn't very cheap.

Basically, some shops are not familiar with this version of the TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) which is why Firestone said they couldn't do it. As long as the sensors aren't damaged when they remove the tires though, they should be reusable. If the inside contours of your new wheels match those of the original wheels, the valve stems can be reused also. If they don't, I was told there are a few different types of valve stems so the sensors will work in different wheels.

For the DIC to recognize the right tire locations, the TPMS needs reprogrammed. The dealer has a tool for that purpose or you can do it yourself by following the instructions on page 5-65 in the owners manual.

Hope this helps future aftermarket wheel buyers! ;)

gravett1
10-10-2007, 05:51 PM
A friend of mine just ordered a set of new sensors for his 2008 panel & they were 300.00

1Panel2NV
10-10-2007, 06:02 PM
They are $30 each on gmpartsdirect.com

Did he get them from a dealer? Can I ask why he ordered another set of sensors?

Firewatcher
10-10-2007, 06:55 PM
Is this what my wife has in her 2007 'Nox? They are obviously wireless...what if the battery goes dead?

1Panel2NV
10-10-2007, 07:47 PM
I'm not sure if they're the same. If the battery dies in the one for HHR's, you have to buy a new sensor.