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johnbrum
10-04-2007, 07:47 PM
I have a 2lt with the 17" firestone tires on them and i've noticed that the outside edge of the tire is wearing down really fast. i have about 22k on my car and bought it new. What is causing the tire to wear like this? i have them rotated everytime i take it in to the dealer for an oil change. Is there any warranty on the tires that came with the car that you know of seem like i remember getting something when i bought the car?

I would assume that this is an alighment issue but why wasn't the car set to factory settings when i got it and if it is them why is it eating the tires this way?

Anyone else having the same issue?

MOD please change title to life sorry

SindyDix
10-04-2007, 07:49 PM
You got it!

Snoopy
10-04-2007, 10:10 PM
johnbrum...

You say you have the tires rotated every time you have the oil changed. How many times is that? You also say "tire", not tireS. So you have one tire wearing on the outside edge? Which tire? If only one tire shows the wear AND it is on the front, I would suggest something happened since the last oil change/tire rotation to distort the alignment.

These cars, as well as many front wheel drive vehicles, are VERY susceptible to pot holes, speed bumps, parking curbs etc. The slightest bump could alter the alignment. You, or someone else, may have encountered something that caused the problem.

Regarding the question on a tire warranty...yes you received a tire manufacturers warranty. But, I doubt very seriously that a warranty would cover damage done to a tire by an alignment problem....especially at 22,000 miles. But, check with your dealer.

Good Luck.

jx3
10-04-2007, 10:35 PM
Before Dory's first tire rotation, I noticed that the outer edges of the front tires were wearing down a bit (lot) quicker than those on the rear.

Black Rose
10-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Might be an issue with the 17s.

I have 16s and rotated the tires at 13,000 kms (7,800 miles). Tires are wearing extremely well and even. Will be time to rotate them again when I change the oil in a few weeks.

johnbrum
10-05-2007, 01:33 PM
Sorry it is all of them but they have been rotated so i'm assumming that since they were rotated it shows on all of them, it is starting on the front tires because if you look at them they are wearing more there then on the back ones.

Goose
10-05-2007, 01:44 PM
Mine are showing wearing on the edges also (16's)...I didn't rotate until 9K miles and I will do them again at 15K.

Then again I may have new tires before then as I just really dislike these tires anyways...never really cared for Firestones

If I can get a good price on some chrome 17" OEM rims I may make the jump up in size also



Goose

jayhawker
10-05-2007, 05:30 PM
I'm actually taking mine to the dealer on Tuesday 10/9 for some tire issues. I seriously doubt they will do anything about it as far as warranty goes, but I'm going to try.
I've rotated mine for the second time now and have 14,500 miles on them. For the past few days I have a strange whirring noise coming from them as they roll down the road(almost as if they're cupped). I'm a bit miffed that this would happen since I keep the correct air pressure in them and rotate them regularly. I know I'll lose the battle when I get to the dealership, but the noise is driving me nuts and I need to get it fixed anyway.

Snoopy
10-05-2007, 05:34 PM
Jayhawker....

I noticed the same thing. At every tire rotation/balance the "road" noise appears to get a little louder.

Do you have the 16's or 17's?

R CA HHR
10-05-2007, 05:47 PM
I have 17's and have some pretty serious wearing on the sides (inside and outside edges) just on the front. I moved them to the rear and have not noticed any wearing yet I'm thinking maybe the dealer fixed the alignment and camber issues when the previous owner turned it in, but left the worn tires on the front. Who knows, I'll just have everythink aligned again when I get new tires (falkens or similiar wet tread) any suggestions on brand.

Snoopy
10-05-2007, 07:05 PM
Generally speaking.....2 causes of tire wear that people are speaking of.....

Wheel alignment issues...
Tire inflation issues (low pressure, especially of low "profile" tires).

HHR_ROX_CALI
10-05-2007, 07:26 PM
Another possibility might be overly fast cornering? I live in the mountains and most of my driving is curvy mountain roads. I know that on my last couple of SUV's I was wearing the outside edges of the front tires alot from- I believe- cornering too fast through turns. Lots of weight on the outside edge of the front leading tire. I just rotated 'em. The tire life was definitely shorter cuz there's no way to "even out" the wear, of course, but I just lived with it. Thoughts on this?

ballplr
10-06-2007, 12:02 AM
You should rotate your tires at least every 5to6000 miles to keep the tire wear down.I rotate mine every 3000 miles. The last vehicle I did that to I got 80,000 miles out of the tires.It was a 95 4 door S-10 Blazer.I know its not an HHR but you get the idea. Also the alignment, is never 100% correct from the factory.I have done alot of alignments on newer Chevy vehicles and found all of them with toe and camber issues.Almost all car manufactures do not align.their vehicles 100% due to shipment and the dealership is not going to worry about checking them they will just wait for the customer to come back with a tire wear complaint, then maybe correct the problem correctly. To align. the rear on an HHR it is done by using shims behind the drums. When I lowered mine I did an alignment and did find the rear out but not bad enough to put shims in.They can be a real pain in the butt to do. Anyone taking yours back to the dealer for alignment issues make sure they give you a print out of the align. before and after.Rotating tires At 10,000 miles yes you will see tire wear on the inner and outer of the front tires due to turning the wheels, you may also see feathering in the rear again due to the lack of rotation.

tsaints1115
10-06-2007, 03:34 PM
Another possibility might be overly fast cornering? I live in the mountains and most of my driving is curvy mountain roads. I know that on my last couple of SUV's I was wearing the outside edges of the front tires alot from- I believe- cornering too fast through turns. Lots of weight on the outside edge of the front leading tire. I just rotated 'em. The tire life was definitely shorter cuz there's no way to "even out" the wear, of course, but I just lived with it. Thoughts on this?

You could run more camber,less caster,tires with a lower side aspect ratio.

JimDaddyo
10-07-2007, 05:36 AM
I have never had any luck with Firestone/Bridgestone or Uniroyals. I avoid them if possible. Only 7000 km on the car, so a few miles left before a change, unless, of course, I can afford some cool rims sooner.

Jim

jayhawker
10-07-2007, 05:16 PM
Jayhawker....

I noticed the same thing. At every tire rotation/balance the "road" noise appears to get a little louder.

Do you have the 16's or 17's?

I've got the factory 16's.

JimZ_HHR
10-07-2007, 05:33 PM
I had to get a tire replaced last week, so let the shop put 2 Coopers on front, they checked the alignment , cuz there was signs of wear on outer edge, Tow was out ...... 26k app miles