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I couldn't believe it. I'm pricing some replacement tires for this thing. An average of $150 a piece. Whatever car a get from now on will not have these 17inch wheels.

:censored: be glad you don't have 22's or higher. :lol::bow:

TireRack has over 60 to choose from starting at $75.

TireRack has over 60 to choose from starting at $75.

Is that a mail order thing.

Paid $580 installed for BFGoodrich T/A's at Wal-mart (145 ea installed). There was at least one tire cheaper available through tirerack.

I just got mine replaced $363.80 Riken Raptors. :cool:

Well the more digging I'm doing, the better I feel. Big O has some reasonable deals. Shoot thes tires cost more than the truck I had. I think $100 is fair. Sure they aren't some Goodyear Eagle status thing at $500:p: each but should be fine for the driving i do.

I just got mine replaced $363.80 Riken Raptors. :cool:

Riken is actually a good tire for the price. Riken is built by Michelin in the BFG/Uniroyal plant. Seen some pretty good results from Riken. I will be replacing my Goodyear Eagle F1's sometime next year, and since I'm not in the biz anymore I will have to pay regular price for them. Around $185.00 ea right now. I only paid $107.00 employee cost when I was in the biz.

Well the more digging I'm doing, the better I feel. Big O has some reasonable deals. Shoot thes tires cost more than the truck I had. I think $100 is fair. Sure they aren't some Goodyear Eagle status thing at $500:p: each but should be fine for the driving i do.

That is where I went. I got the Yokohama AS430s. Very good tire IMO, and I'm extremely happy with them. They are directional, and have GREAT wet traction, and do well in snow. I also noticed a difference in cornering over the stock firestones. If I remember right, they were around $120 a piece. Total bill was a bit over $500. The treadlife is 60,000 miles if memory serves me right.

$88 Fuzion 17" tire at Tire Rack:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Fuzion&tireModel=VRi&partnum=15VR7VRIXL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=27&speed_rating=S&speed_rating=T&speed_rating=U&speed_rating=H&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&speed_rating=(Y)&minSpeedRating=S

IMHO however, it is worth paying a few extra dollars for the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S tires. They are truly worth it! EXCELLENT on wet and dry pavement!!! Good in the snow too. Remember, tires are your life line. Good tires and good brakes will keep you safe. The Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S tires are $149 each at Tire Rack:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Exalto+A%2FS&vehicleSearch=true&partnum=15HR7EXAS&fromCompare1=yes&place=46&speed_rating=S&speed_rating=T&speed_rating=U&speed_rating=H&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&speed_rating=(Y)&minSpeedRating=S

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n66/MWG2/bib1_3D.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n66/MWG2/MichelinPilotonHHR.jpg

Good Luck when you purchase your tires, You must look at the warranty on the tires you do not want 40K warranty tires look for the 80K
Rudy

http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11213&highlight=Tires+Z-Man

To me, a tire with a 10,000mile or 100,000 mile warranty, it means nothing as the chances of getting a replacement are very thin whenyour up at that time frame.

So I just get the lower end but must get the road hazard warranty. This way, these things can blow out or go bad every 6 months for all I care and I'll be covered. Those 30,40, 50,000 mile tire warrantys, I feel are a scam to get you to buy the tire.

Lets see,,, two tires for my Honda Goldwing motorcycle, about $300, and now add the tax and balance and mount, pretty close to 400 dollars. I usually get about 15K miles on them. And if I take the bike to the dealer for them to take the wheels off the bike, the bill will be over $500.

I guess I'm lucky when it comes to tires. Both of my parents work at a tire warehouse. I get them at cost. Plus I have a mechanic that will mount and balance for $10 a wheel for me. No valve stem or disposal fees. When I had my Jimmy (P235/70R15) I got all 4 tires replaced for a total of $140. I should start checking into how much I can get tires for the HHR for.

Have you checked Dicount Tire?

I think they have the best deals w/ warranty. Plus they are local and you get free lifetime rotations. You can find plenty of good tires under 100 and they will price match.

I like Kumho for the price and even falken

No I didn't check them and I live real close and drive by them every day. On thelighter side, this remonds me of buying a computer printer. Pay $20 for the printer and $50 for the ink cartridge:nuts:

Check them out b/c you could get some Falken 512s or 912s for $87 a tire which is a really good tire.

Shop at Tirerack first, get your price, then go to a local dealer with a print-out of the Tirerack price. I'm sure they can come REAL close to matching he price, after you consider mounting balancing & freight, that will add $35 to the price of each Tirerack tire. Unless you know someone with a mounting & balancing machine, Tirerack isn't always the greatest. If you bring the tires to a local shop, they'll charge you $25 apiece to mount & balance. Many times, they do not charge these fees if you buy the tires from them. This method has worked for me many times. Give your local guy a chance to match, he may be your neighbor someday.

Have you checked Dicount Tire?

I think they have the best deals w/ warranty. Plus they are local and you get free lifetime rotations. You can find plenty of good tires under 100 and they will price match.

I like Kumho for the price and even falken

Are these from Discount?

And now for the question being left out:

Is there a 15" or 16" wheel that will fit correctly and allow us to buy less expensive & more commonly available tires?

I've looked at those rediculously wide tires and thought that I could get better gas mileage with narrower tires, but have tos tart by getting narrower wheels.

And now for the question being left out:

Is there a 15" or 16" wheel that will fit correctly and allow us to buy less expensive & more commonly available tires?

I've looked at those rediculously wide tires and thought that I could get better gas mileage with narrower tires, but have tos tart by getting narrower wheels.

The LS and 1LT's use 16". The 215/55R16 tire it uses is not cheap either. You just have to shop around.

Is there a 15" or 16" wheel that will fit correctly and allow us to buy less expensive & more commonly available tires?

Yup, I have both. The 16" can be had as steel or alloy (Chevy OEM), and my 15" (for winter) are steelies from a Saturn 200/300. These just clear the brake calipers, so I don't know if 15" alloys would. BTW, say goodbye to any hint of crisp handling with 15" tires....

Yves

The LS and 1LT's use 16". The 215/55R16 tire it uses is not cheap either. You just have to shop around.

Correct; I recently busted one of my 16" Affinity (puncture in the sidewall), and the dealer wants $171 to replace that piece of cr...p. I'm stuck with 3 tires w/less than 3000 miles on them. I either pay the high price to get a new one, or I pay even more to replace all 4 with decent tires.

Yves

Correct; I recently busted one of my 16" Affinity (puncture in the sidewall), and the dealer wants $171 to replace that piece of cr...p. I'm stuck with 3 tires w/less than 3000 miles on them. I either pay the high price to get a new one, or I pay even more to replace all 4 with decent tires.

Yves


I had a similiar thing happen, had the roof done and just happen to catch a nail right in the corner of the tread. Local Firestone had one match. Lucky for me the roofers had to pay for it. They charged $180 :eek: for the tire. That was at 9K miles.

Are these from Discount


Yes sir they are.

[QUOTE=randyscott;262546]And now for the question being left out:

Is there a 15" or 16" wheel that will fit correctly and allow us to buy less expensive & more commonly available tires?

I've looked at those rediculously wide tires and thought that I could get better gas mileage with narrower tires, but have tos tart by getting narrower wheels.

Yes you can get smaller wheels but if your car came with 17s why go down unless you are doing a more nostalgic look to it (wheel vintiques). But the price of a 215 16 to a 215 17 is like a $5 differance per tire. Not worth it IMO but thats just my :2cents:

And now for the question being left out:

Is there a 15" or 16" wheel that will fit correctly and allow us to buy less expensive & more commonly available tires?

I've looked at those rediculously wide tires and thought that I could get better gas mileage with narrower tires, but have tos tart by getting narrower wheels.

I thought about that to as i am not overly crazy about this setup even if it is stock. I'd rather have a smaller wheel and higher profile of a tire. I think the ride would be much better too. Would be a costly changeover. Measuring it all out etc

Iwuld also assume that by changing out the sizes, the speedometer wuld have to be recalibrated??

Iwuld also assume that by changing out the sizes, the speedometer wuld have to be recalibrated??

Not if you do it carefully. My winter 195/65R15s are within 1% of the stock wheel diameter (25.3" vs 25.5"). The key is to get a combo with the same diameter as your stock setup.

Getting a smaller wheel pays off for winter tires; they are much cheaper, but you have to give up some cornering stability. The ride is plush, though.

Yves

Yeah just get a tire size with the same +/- 2% and your speedo will be fine. To save money on tires going down in diameter isn't going to save you much money per compared to having to buy new rims.

To save money it really comes down too going to a skinnier tire. 215 in a 16 or 17 is only roughly $5-$10 differance. But going to a 195 16 from a 215 17 will be a big differance like $15-$20. But you have to consider finding rims.

To me, a tire with a 10,000mile or 100,000 mile warranty, it means nothing as the chances of getting a replacement are very thin whenyour up at that time frame.

So I just get the lower end but must get the road hazard warranty. This way, these things can blow out or go bad every 6 months for all I care and I'll be covered. Those 30,40, 50,000 mile tire warrantys, I feel are a scam to get you to buy the tire.

C/H
Easy for you to say. I put 35K on my vehicle a year and if I purchase Tires that are warranty for 40K then I will be purchasing tires every year, Well thats not going to happen So with the 80K warranty the rubber is not as soft and I get more rubber that will last longer and the price is even better. I have had my HHr for 24 months now and I have 74,321 miles on it as of this morning as you can tell I drive my HHr.

Z

It is easy for me to say. A 10,000 mile tire may last as long as a 50,000 mile or a 50,000 mile may only go 5,000 all depending on how you drive. With that, I've never purchased tires based on warranty associated with it. Long as I purchase a road hazard, I'm just fine.

35k a year is not normal mileage so how can that fit in the scenario.

stupid question but.....I went from stock 16's on my 06 to factory polished 17's all with factory tires, do I need an adjustment made for this? I thought I read that the comp would adjust itself, might be mistaken though.

I dont know if the computer can do that. Don't see how it would know the tire size you installed and going from the factory 16 to the factory 17 is acutally a big jump in diameter. the 215/50/17 is over 3% larger in diameter. Why would GM do that? Just to keep the ride quality in tact. Thats why I went with a 225/45/17 when I changed the rims.

are those the same overall as the factory 16's? sorry don't know much about tires

btw those rims are sweet

going from the factory 16 to the factory 17 is acutally a big jump in diameter.

:roll: No, it's not. As you go up in rim size, you go down in tire profile. (55 series vs 50 series vs 45 series)

195/65R15, 215/55R16, 215/50R17 and 235/45R17 are all within + or - 1% in diameter. No need for any computer adjustment. Your 225 tires are actually smaller than stock by 2%, so your speedo is high about 2%, which is totally acceptable.

the factory wheels on the 17's are about an inch bigger than the 16's I am just trying to figure out if it really matters

It is easy for me to say. A 10,000 mile tire may last as long as a 50,000 mile or a 50,000 mile may only go 5,000 all depending on how you drive. With that, I've never purchased tires based on warranty associated with it. Long as I purchase a road hazard, I'm just fine.

35k a year is not normal mileage so how can that fit in the scenario.

It is for me...over 30K in less then a year here. Remember, a lot of that warranty is direct relation to the quality of tire and it's longevity. In other words, a Mich HydroEdge with a 80K warranty is going to last a heck of a lot longer than Ted's Tire with a 10 K warranty...this sums it up


"Tire mileage warranties have become a popular marketing tool used by most tire manufacturers (and some independent retailers) to help position some of their tires competitively in the marketplace and to help indicate their potential longevity to consumers."


So the key words here are "potential longevity"...a tire with a longer warranty should last you a lot longer than one with a shorter one in theory. I understand what you are getting at that a lot has to do with the way you treat the tires but 9 times out of 10 the higher mileage tire is going to last quite a bit longer




I agree on the Exalto being an excellent tire..I had those on my Matrix and absolutely loved them...I just upgraded to the 17" polished rims from the 16's and without a doubt these Firehawks are pretty lousy as far as comfort and road noise goes...the Affinitys are a much quieter and comfortable ride (and that isn't really saying much for either tire lol)



Goose

:roll: No, it's not. As you go up in rim size, you go down in tire profile. (55 series vs 50 series vs 45 series)

195/65R15, 215/55R16, 215/50R17 and 235/45R17 are all within + or - 1% in diameter. No need for any computer adjustment. Your 225 tires are actually smaller than stock by 2%, so your speedo is high about 2%, which is totally acceptable.


Yeah you're right I was getting them confused with the factory 18s which are like 2.5% differance. Yeah my 225s are actually about 1.3% off but either way +/- 2% is where you want to so you dont have to reclaibrate the speedo.

I know this an older thread but I thought I got a good deal today, 4 Fuzions for $85.00 each plus $12.00 each mounting and balance and $2.00 each disposal fee, plus our local tax of course.

When I called I was quoted $104.00 each but when I got there the lady recognized me as the lady who cuts her hair's husband and said she could do better on the price.

Nice savings, really need it now being laid off :cool:

Looks like I am not the only one who has had tire sticker shock.
My LS came with the stock wheels from an LT, so they are the 17's
I am not sure I could same money getting 16"s for her or not.
I am 2 months away from a bonus, so I am pricing now...

Try general Exclaim UHP for around $90 just not great in the snow. I have some on my Charger and they have been great.

I replaced my 215/55/16 Affinity's with 205/60/16 Assurance Comfortreds and am very impressed. The narrower tire is better in the snow, and by going to an "H" rated tire, I got better sidewall stiffness so I did actually notice slightly improved driveability. Also, a much nicer ride and quieter. If I were driving it, I would have installed Exalto's.

My wife uses it for work, so her issues were comfort and ride quality. Plus, the 80k warranty helps, and the 205 was about $20 per tire less than the 215.