The Underhood Fuse Tip can be found HERE (http://www.socalhhr.citymax.com/fuseboxtip.html).

(moved due to a server crash!) :thumb:

I was thinking about painting the Fuse Box Cover and the other part right in front of it. They both come off easy.

this should be stickied!

-WC

If JonelZ makes a "Tech Tips" section, we could stick it there. If I come across anything else that seems relevant I'll post it there. But only if you guys feel this type of thing is helpful. :thumb:

-Mike

We are still growing along. With Great Members like yourself and the others this site can be an ultimate resource towards the HHR.

Heck yea. All this kind of info is helpful. I also think there should be a type of tech tips section. It'd be nice.

I was finally able to get under the hood of my "lil hearse" today and what did I find? All but one of my fuses and relays were loose. A full inspection is coming soon.

I was checking my oil and remembered reading these messages. Checked and lo and behold.......every fuse, breaker, and relay loose. My son, who works in manufacturing figures they are placed into the panel by some type of pneumatic press that uses a set pressure. That would explain the uniform looseness. You would think that when they installed the panel under the hood they would check everything. Maybe it's time to forget NAFTA and get the jobs back to the USA.

Maybe it's time to forget NAFTA and get the jobs back to the USA.

Good idea! :beer: Now if our govenment could only see the light. :roll:

just checked mine and every one of them was loose.

Picked up my HHR yesterday! While at the dealer and checking it over, I popped the hood and the fusebox cover. Heh... Only about 1/2 of them were loose!

Hey Mike,
Thanks for the heads up on those fuses coming loose, popped my hood and every one of those bad boys were loose, maybe GM needs to hire some new fuse putter inner's ;)
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Well I check mine today and guess what. Thats right almost all of the fuses were loose. Thanks for the heads up

I've read this post a few times and still havn't checked mine.I'm stoopid..

Just for grins + giggles, I checked mine & some were kinda loose... better safe than sorry. :roll:

Well..I washed and detailed my HHR today and while i was under the hood I checked the fuses...YUP..ALL Mine were loose or not seated properly..Thanks for the tip.

yep same thing here.Most weren't seated correctly.

Well I checked mine today before I left the dealership with it and sure enough, every fuse and relay was loose so I seated them. There was another guy there to pick up his too, so I poped his hood open and got him and the sales lady to look with me, sure enough, his were all loose too. So the sales lady is going to talk to the service manager and have them add this to the PDI, I think that's pretty good insurance for the dealership considering it's only about a one minute job.

same here ....all mine were not 100% in , i should have checked them before i drove it off the lot , cause there was 481 miles on it when i bought it so i assumed that eveything was checked ....ya right . included in all the papers was a dealer checklist for the car ....nothing was checked off they were all blank . i bought it in NY the destination on the window sticker was a dealer in NJ , next time i take it to the dealer i am going to show that paper to them and ask ....what gives !!!!!!! anybody else get any kind of a check list with their paperwork ??????

I think it would be great having a tech tip. Would help everyone who is doing stuff to their HHR. :thumb:

I got a check sheet when they delivered mine. All of the boxes were checked though. But, I'm on my way to go check fuses right now.

Sure enough most of mine were loose too.

I never seen a check list. A runner had just pulled up to the front from the car wash, handed over the keys, and said "seeeeee ya!"

I never seen a check list. A runner had just pulled up to the front from the car wash, handed over the keys, and said "seeeeee ya!"

Your salesman didn't walk you around and incorrectly point out features and options before they handed over the keys? :D That's what happened to me. :lol: I just wanted to get my keys and away from the idiot because I new more about the vehicle than he did. :roll:

Your salesman didn't walk you around and incorrectly point out features and options before they handed over the keys? :D That's what happened to me. :lol: I just wanted to get my keys and away from the idiot because I new more about the vehicle than he did. :roll:

Not only didn't I get a walk around from sale rep, I was sent off with less than 1/8 tank of gas! :wtf: :censored: When I went back, it took them over 1/2 hour to get me a slip to take to the nearest station and told me to put the "cheap stuff" in! :eek:

thanks for the heads up everyone, next time i am in parts with my friend at the delership i will have to check this out myslef.

Just checked mine and they were all loose. Thanks for this tip. It made me feel like one smart cookie to be able to waltz right out there, pop the hood, open up the fuse box and check it all out. (I'm kind of a girlie girl, so this is a big deal to me)

:D

Thanks...we checked mine yesterday and every one of them was loose. Next time I'm at the dealer I'll let them know that they should be checked on all the new ones.

Make sure that checking the fuses is part of your maintenance when changing the oil. I had checked and reseated all the loose fuses after finding this info, and just for the hell of it, I rechecked them after having the oil changed. Had found some of them loosened up again.

Just saw this as well, and sure enough when I checked this afternoon, every single freaking one was loose. And I thought my Sonoma that I traded in was bad about loose fuses.

Checked mine last night and sure enough, almost everyone was loose.

Are there any placed elsewhere that should be checked?

Bump!:smile:

Are there any placed elsewhere that should be checked?

Sure. The Center Stack console has a fusebox on the passenger side. There is a cover held on with 4 body clips - just pull it off to check them and snap it back on when finished.

Also there is a 50A fuse on the batttery terminal (under rear storage compartment), that feeds the front fuseboxes.
Check to make sure it is seated fully so that you don't experience any intermittent electrical problems.

Hope it helps,

THANK YOU!!!:bow:

Most of mine were lose, have to check the one under the rear storage compartment. Thanks . . .

I bought mine May 30, 2006 and gave her a wash today. Checked under the hood and sure enough just like everybody else said they were loose.:thumb:

I bought mine May 30, 2006 and gave her a wash today. Checked under the hood and sure enough just like everybody else said they were loose.:thumb:


:welcome: james5011!

Thank you! Glad to be here!

Thought it was time to BUMP this one.:thumb:

For all the new owners....check your underhood fuses. Chances are pretty good all or most are not set well.

When we got Bonnie's, I had the salesman open the hood on a few other HHR's they had, 3 of 4 had loose fuses under the hood!:roll:

Thought it was time to BUMP this one.

Isn't that the reason it has been made a "stickie", so it doesn't get buried?

Isn't that the reason it has been made a "stickie", so it doesn't get buried?
I've often wondered the same thing when I see this done in the stickies. The only thing I can think of would be to bring attention to the thread by posting to it, resulting in the red dot. That way, those who may not have overlooked it, will drop in and check it out. http://www.militantbreastfeedingcult.com/vbportal/forums/images/smilies/wiggle.gif

I've often wondered the same thing when I see this done in the stickies. The only thing I can think of would be to bring attention to the thread by posting to it, resulting in the red dot. That way, those who may not have overlooked it, will drop in and check it out. http://www.militantbreastfeedingcult.com/vbportal/forums/images/smilies/wiggle.gif

That was the idea. I know that some of our members just go to the New Posts section and look for the red dots. I rarely go to the forums anymore!

I just checked my fuse box and I found that every fuse and circuit breaker was not completly seated. Great advice to check them...!!

I read this post a when I first bought the HHR, but oly got around to checking the fuses last weekend. It's a good thing I checked, they were loose.

I finally got around to checking the underhood fuses today.

Just about every one of them was loose. None of them were at risk of falling out, but they definintely were not seated properly.

I just checked mine yesterday after reading to this forum and EVERYONE was loose.

Add me to the loose fuse list. Just about every one was loose, in both places. Will have to add the one on the battery in the back, to my list. I did note that the engine crank relay was so loose, that one good bump and it would have completely fallen out.

Back in the 80's we had a problem with the Apple Computer where the memory chips would work their way loose, it was called chip creep. I'm surprise 20 years later we are seeing the same thing in our automobile.

-JJ

That was the idea. I know that some of our members just go to the New Posts section and look for the red dots. I rarely go to the forums anymore!

Guilty as charged.

As for this topic, I'll be adding 'fuse inspection' to my list of things to knock out this weekend.

Yep, I am grateful for this being a sticky thread...most of mine were less than fully seated, and with the rough Boston roads I travel, those fuses did not need a head start popping out.

I thought I read somewhere (maybe here?) that someone suggested putting something like a foam pad underneath the lid to put a small amount of pressure on the fuses to help keep them pressed down.

Anyone try that already? Suggestions/comments?

OK I have been reading about loose fuses here enmass.....HAvent checked mine yet.

Has anyone had electrical issues due to the loose fuses? With all the "me toos" I have to ask that.

OK I have been reading about loose fuses here enmass.....HAvent checked mine yet.

Has anyone had electrical issues due to the loose fuses? With all the "me toos" I have to ask that.
No documented issues that I can recall anyone being able to say was caused by them. Though often it is the first thing people will bring up when there is a problem.

checked mine just yesterday and they were all good. Could be that the dealers are cluing in and starting to check them as part of the dealer prep.

checked mine just yesterday and they were all good. Could be that the dealers are cluing in and starting to check them as part of the dealer prep.

I think it's a bunch of overly worried members concerning themselves with something they don't have to. :lol: I've had my HHR two years now and my fuses have never "came loose" nor did I have to push them in any more than they came from the factory. :roll:

This is being discussed in other parts of the forum too:

http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=522&page=4

There are ZERO documented issues with the "loose fuse" phenomenon, and as reported in the other thread, this design has gone through millions of miles of testing with no reliability issues.

Funny how ONE person can start a hysteria that taints a car forever.

Yeah checked mine I pressed down three of them but they were making good connection. The only real issue is the stuck ignition. Once i filled up the tires from 21 to 35 The car rode better LOL

The bottom line is...many of us found them loose...and they should not be. Why make such a big friggin deal out of a small problem. Nothing like pole vaulting over mouse turds and bashing someone who is no longer posting on the forum.

Whether or not they are the root of a problem or not...hundreds of people have found them loose...bottom line.

Once i filled up the tires from 21 to 35 The car rode better LOL

Yeah the dealers need to check the tires, not the fuses. Got mine home the day I bought it and checked all four tires. Tire pressure states 40 psi I had just under 20 pis in each.

Now I don't have any paper "Documenting" this , because I check things myself instead of relying on the dealer,( who sometimes knows less that you!) but twice I had shifting troubles,and after pushin in on all the fuses, and finding several loose , the problem disappeared. I'm sorry I never have paid attention to which ones were loose at those times, but the problem stopped after pushin them in . As far as some peoples fuses not comming loose, well, you have a better fit than some others , so be glad. Those that keep finding them loose , just check thaem as a matter of maintance, and anytime sometthing strange happens.
Just my opinion, but it works for me!

The bottom line is...many of us found them loose...and they should not be. Why make such a big friggin deal out of a small problem. Nothing like pole vaulting over mouse turds and bashing someone who is no longer posting on the forum.

Whether or not they are the root of a problem or not...hundreds of people have found them loose...bottom line.


Deb....

Bottom line (your words) is that loose fuses, "should not be":roll: . THEY CAN NOT FALL OUT......IT IS NOT A PROBLEM. Read my post in the other thread.

And, the comments were not a "bash"...the person that started this has also provided, with no authentication or evidence, other comments that are not true, totally unfounded, and false.....and again I'll say, it displays poor credibility to this site if it is not corrected (last time I looked, this site was supposed to be about the HHR). So, go ahead and check your fuses, if your belief is it is needed. But don't, as some people have, get hysterical over it. Because IT IS NOT A PROBLEM AREA.

That being said, I will say, as an individual, I like that person you are referring to. He has provided me and GM some assistance in a couple of issues, to which I am greatful and appreciative. But, an "empire" was built and members bowed to the god as an absolute source....erroneous info, is erroneous.....so it needed to be corrected.

Bottom line on your comment...... Deb, the prongs on those fuses are 3/4 inches long, they can only "wiggle" out 1/8 of an inch, before hitting the fuse lid liner.....the contacting area still has over a 1/2 inch of material to provide electrical current.....it does no harm. THEY CANNOT COME OUT ANY FURTHER (check out my response in the other thread, as I said before)..... then check it on your own vehicle. It only takes a minute (oh, and you can challenge me to supply my resourse, which I stated. But, you can/will see that I speak with a "straight tongue" if you just review the fuse box):smile: .

I was providing the information of the so called fuse issue, to assist in helping members...it was meant as productive comments (including the part where it was traced back to this site and the other site that also supports a competitive vehicle).

As I mentioned before, I know of at least two GM people who review this site on a relatively regular basis. They must remain anonymous because of corporate guidelines and policy (and I thank one for his contributions).

Now, if you think this is a mouse turd, wait until I make my next comment, in the appropriate thread, on another subject that the false god had stated.:D :nuts: :D

The bottom line is...many of us found them loose...and they should not be. Why make such a big friggin deal out of a small problem. Nothing like pole vaulting over mouse turds and bashing someone who is no longer posting on the forum.

Whether or not they are the root of a problem or not...hundreds of people have found them loose...bottom line.

Deep breath Deb.

The point being made is that loose or not they are not a problem. They may be loose by design. Not everything has to be bar tight to be correctly installed. The design of the fuse cover prevents the fuses from coming loose enough to be a problem.

I think this was blown out of proportion when this post was first made and is now the first thing everyones suggests whenever anything goes wrong.

No one is beating up on Mike. He came up with some great stuff.

Deep breath Deb.

No one is beating up on Mike. He came up with some great stuff.

Ok no one is beating up on Mike ;
Written by Snoopy :
Now, if you think this is a mouse turd, wait until I make my next comment, in the appropriate thread, on another subject that the false god had stated


NFBoy Wrote :
The point being made is that loose or not they are not a problem. They may be loose by design. Not everything has to be bar tight to be correctly installed. The design of the fuse cover prevents the fuses from coming loose enough to be a problem.
I wrote:
Now I don't have any paper "Documenting" this , because I check things myself instead of relying on the dealer,( who sometimes knows less that you!) but twice I had shifting troubles,and after pushin in on all the fuses, and finding several loose , the problem disappeared. I'm sorry I never have paid attention to which ones were loose at those times, but the problem stopped after pushin them in . As far as some peoples fuses not comming loose, well, you have a better fit than some others , so be glad. Those that keep finding them loose , just check thaem as a matter of maintance, and anytime something strange happens.
Just my opinion, but it works for me!

Now in my case I know that I had a Shifting problem, the shifting is controlled electronically, and after reseating the fuses , the problem went away , BUT reoccoured, again being cured by reseating the fuses .
gee I guess maybe a fuse being loose CAN cause an issue in an important electrical function.

Once again , only my own opinion, and I guess I'm not worth reading because I state what I know ,simply as that, and not try to change anyones minds about what is and isnt important. Its all important, we buy these cars and we belive they should function properly.
I agree this is a "Minor" inconvieniance, BUT an inconvieniance it is.
If you experience an unusual "Electrically Controlled" malfunction, spend the little bit of time nessary to check the fuded, it may keep your blood pressure from escalating while visiting the dealer!
Have a nice day! Make somebody smile, its contagious!

But then how would you explain cases like mine (and I'm sure most owners) where I haven't touched the fuses in two years of ownership and haven't had one electrical problem? So far there is no actual documented proof that loose fuses have caused any issues amongst owners. It's all hype and fear. There is no real reason this thread should even be a sticky. Unless you consider worrying new owners of problems that don't exist or scaring away new buyers a good reason. :roll: This thread should die in the old thread graveyard! :lol:

Schmodie.....

I'm not doubting or calling you a liar in the results you posted regarding the fuse issue. I want to make that clear:bow: . But your results, could have been a coincidence. I'm not sure about this, and I will check, BUT I believe there is only one fuse related to the transmission in the underhood fuse box. And that fuse, if removed would prevent the trans from working entirely.....not just shifting.

Besides again, the "spades" of the electrical contact area are STILL MAKING CONTACT with the box. SO..........

If your argument is that a loose fuse is causing the trans problem, then I would intentionally loosen the fuse as a trial, in an attempt to duplicate your problem. If you confirm this, then I suggest a stop at the dealer to display this result. YOU DO HAVE A FAULTY PROBLEM.:thumb:

Dear Captain Howdy,
This is the second occasion I have had the pleasure of pointing out to you that you need to" Read the Whole post Please".

I qoute myself, "As far as some peoples fuses not comming loose, well, you have a better fit than some others , so be glad. Those that keep finding them loose , just check thaem as a matter of maintance, and anytime something strange happens."

Sorry I didnt mention you by name at first , to avoid this confusion.
So there you have it some stay tight, some come loose. Its really not quite enough to start a civil war over, BUT , istead of Institing that if it doesnt have a "Paper Trail" it doest exsit, just be happy yours dont come loose .
And if it makes you feel any better I'll tell you that I am Extremlly Jealous of you ,because mine DO!
Make an old ladys day, help her across the street!

....... so push 'em in and keep on truckin'!

Schmodie.....

I'm not doubting or calling you a liar in the results you posted regarding the fuse issue. I want to make that clear:bow: . But your results, could have been a coincidence. I'm not sure about this, and I will check, BUT I believe there is only one fuse related to the transmission in the underhood fuse box. And that fuse, if removed would prevent the trans from working entirely.....not just shifting.

Besides again, the "spades" of the electrical contact area are STILL MAKING CONTACT with the box. SO..........

If your argument is that a loose fuse is causing the trans problem, then I would intentionally loosen the fuse as a trial, in an attempt to duplicate your problem. If you confirm this, then I suggest a stop at the dealer to display this result. YOU DO HAVE A FAULTY PROBLEM.:thumb:


Well, I suppose I could do that -- BUT , I relly dont need to have to be bit by a dog to know that it hurts !
My son ( Whom I do know quite well,& trust a bit ) has been an eledctrician for several years & he & I also have a lot of mechanical experiance, And believe it or not -- an eletrical connection Can , even when plugged in tightly, sometimes not pass enough current.
I know , why should you belive me, I dont have a TV show, I dont have any Paper Documentation of my trials, & expeiance and mechanical abillity! ANd I'm really NOT gonna lose any sleep over weather you do or not, My whole point in this thing is this -- IT Can happen -- even if it just hasn't to YOU!
BUT the same goes here , What is YOUR prooF ?

Remember
" Things can only get better. Don't you know a drowning man can't get no wetter." -- The Late Great James DeWar

BUT the same goes here , What is YOUR prooF ?

I don't see why you are taking it so personal but I would say the fact that only a few members on a website worry about it out of the 1000s of HHRs sold. The fact that GMs engineers designed the fuse lid so that they can't come out. The fact that a single fuse hasn't vibrated out of any HHR yet in its two years on the road (not just on mine). The fact that GM has hasn't recalled all of our vehicles because of a faulty fuse box nor have they released any TSBs acknowledging it as a problem. It's all a bunch of hot air IMO. You might have noticed your problem is corrected when you pushed your fuse but that doesn't actually make it a worry or concern for the rest of us. I'm not calling you a liar because I do feel that you actually believe that your problem was fixed by moving a fuse like 1/8" in deeper in the socket but that doesn't actually make it a problem nor does it acknowledge that it is an actual widespread problem with the vehicle. I've felt this way long before you joined the site (like when this crap was first posted) so stop taking and making things so personal. :lol:

Schmodie......

I'm with CH on this. Why are you taking it SO PERSONAL??? I'm not doubting you experienced what you said. I am questioning the logic.....and that's not a slam.

Are you asking me for my proof...for my statements???????

Try what I suggested, and BY ALL MEANS, check the design of the fuse box...as per my suggestions. That should be proof enough. In approximately 3-4 threads and hundreds of posts, in those threads, NOBODY cared to check to see if loose fuses are an issue of concern. Everyone (including me) just assumed the fuses were an issue......again THEY ARE NOT (unless you, as an individual, do have an isolated and specific problem.....and that is worth noting).

I'm not trying to be sarcastic BUT, yes you are correct...even when something is plugged in correctly it may not pass electrical current. BUT, THAT IS DUE TO AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MECHANICAL FAULT. Also, even if this sounds a bit sarcastic, it's not intended as such.........where is your proof you actually experienced what you said you experienced? Do you see the intent of my "echo". This forum, as well as others, has had people claim certain types of problems/issues, only to find out, later, they were trolling. Now, I'm not accusing you of that, so don't misunderstand. I used it as an example only.

When someone posts with a problem, members generally jump in with suggestions. But if some suggestions are erroneous, then other members step in with corrections....I was one of them.

This issue is becoming as contraveral as when to change oil, or what kind of oil AND it was not my intent to cause this dissention.

I'm just trying to help....do what YOU think is necessary and keep us informed.

One time I had really bad heartburn, so I scratched my leg and it went away. Now whenever I get really bad heartburn, I scratch my leg...

Keep drinkin' the Kool-Aid people. It'll all be over soon!

One time I had really bad heartburn, so I scratched my leg and it went away. Now whenever I get really bad heartburn, I scratch my leg...

Keep drinkin' the Kool-Aid people. It'll all be over soon!

:laughabov :laughabov :laughabov

....... so push 'em in and keep on truckin'!


like NIKE and sindydix say.....just do it!:thumb:

I can't access the link posted in #1.
Could please somebody fix that or provide another link?

Thanks a lot!

I can't access the link posted in #1.
Could please somebody fix that or provide another link?

Thanks a lot!

If I remember correctly it was pretty much just a picture of where the fuse box is located and a picture of the fuse box itself both closed and open. Socal’s finger might have been in there somewhere pointing out a fuse. :confused: It was pretty much useless if you read your owners manual. :lol:

I can't access the link posted in #1.
Could please somebody fix that or provide another link?

Thanks a lot!

SoCal dismantled his site.:(

I tried to help somebody and jump their car and now the steering wont work. I called the dealership and they said it is probably a fuse. I pulled the fuse cover and I either can't read the abbreviations or I am looking in the wrong place. Can anyone help me? Thanks

Fuse #1 in the Engine Dept fuse box. If you don't jump buy using the Red term on the side of the fuse box and the proper ground you WILL blow the fuse. Do not use the black connector that is on the back of the fuse box, that is not ground. Either use the bolt on the strut tower which is marked gnd or part of the engine block which is ground.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3074 thread for your Manual if you don't have one.

Thanks I found it.

Hi all, I am new to this site and am very happy to have found such an awesome resource. I came here for info on my fuses but the link from the OP is now dead! here is the current location for the fusebox tip page:
http://www.socalhhr.citymax.com/HHRfuses.html

Thanks for the updated link to this info :thumb:

I know it advises to check/reseat the fuses and relays monthly, but i was wondering if it would be a smart thing to use some kind of conductivity paste or something along thoses lines to help with the fuse/fuseblock connections staying good.
I'm a electrical tech and we mostly use a special paste on hi voltage(13.8K and higher) connections for busswork etc.,
Just wondering if it would be worth using the same stuff on the plug in items in our fuse boxes.
(I'm sure it would, but just throwing it out here to discuss)

I'm hoping to get 5-6 yrs and 200K outa mine (normal w/ my driving) so i prob should be prepping for the long haul with mine.

Heck...leave the assembly in Mexico....it keeps the Mexicans in a good job and maybe they'll stay home instead of coming here.

At the risk of coming in too late and joining an old topic. I want to say a couple of things.

First, this is my first post here, but I have been on many other forums.

Second, I am not surprised at, but not pleased either by, those bashing [and yes, you were bashing] posters that have a geniune concern about the fuses being loose.

Next, I would like to add to the conversation by documenting [as a Certified Technical Specialst but not a mechanic by trade] a symptom and the theory behind which I believe loose fuses is a concern.

Case: On Dec 27th I started experiencing a problem know across the web as the dreaded T/C off+ hard shifting problem. Basically, there is a light on the right side of the warning display bar that shows a tire tread with T/C inside. When it illuminates, it means there is a problem with the Traction Control system and it is OFF. For some reason, when this is happening, it is accompanied by hard shifting, which almost feels like you ran over something. Shutting the car off reportedly resets the system and it works until you hit a bump or something. Then it starts happening again. After experiencing this problem for a solid 10 days and having it occur on EVERy trip no matter how short, I was researching the problem over the weekend and on Monday, I found more than one site citing loose fuses as a possible fix. I checked and nearly every fuse and relay was loose. I pushed them all in and by cooincidence [ya right] the problem has not returned. I have made about 20 trips without the slightest hint of the problem returning.

Now for the theory.
A loose connection is a tentative electrical bond and the tendency toward ionization of the two metals is high. The act of the two metals not forming a tight connection causes small sparks which is what causes the ionization. This creates a thin film of ionized particles coating the two metals. These particles make poor conductors owing to their lack of free electrons and even though the metals are touching, they may no longer be conducting well. This causes more heat and less current. Since relays require a certain current level to activate, they may not activate in this situation. It doesn't take a complete loss of contact to loose electrical contact. In my 35 years as an electronics engineer, I have encountered thousands of 'dirty' electrical connections. Anyone that has heard static when adjusting the volume on their stereo, TV, etc. is experiencing this problem.

Lastly, manufacturers are not known for their willingness to publicize all of the problems their products are having, especially if it is 1. thought to be isolated or 2. May give them a bad name. Electrical problems are one area where is seems easy to dismiss as user customizations [a common dodge among car dealerships] or random problems. Stating that GM hasn't issued a recall as the reason you feel a problem isn't major is not well supported because of the issues I have just pointed out.

I hope you take from this a couple of things.

1. I consider my problem solved by the 'loose fuse fix' - at least for now.
2. Just because a fuse can't fall all the way out doesn't mean it being loose is "OK."
3. perhaps we could all be a little more civil toward one another.
4. Have a great 2009

Ken

to put the nay-sayers to rest, I have proven the theory of loose fuses causing stereo/sounds non-op.

I bought my 06 15+ months ago.

One day while driving home, I stopped at a gas station, and when I returned to my vehicle, I had no interior sounds. No chimes. No sound from radio. Just silence.

I got home, and searched on THIS site, and found the "Loose Fuses" thread.



I went out to my car, pushed in all the fuses, and the problem was solved. I came on to the site to post my joy and excitement, and thank those who contributed. My contribution was shot down by a few members who chalked it up as "it only needed to be reset"

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12697&highlight=loose+fuses


well, yesterday it happened again. But this time, I decided to follow *their* theory.

I drove about 20 miles. I turned the radio on and off several times, triggered the volume settings, and got nothing.

I then came to a red light, turned the ignition off, removed the key, and even opened the door and closed it. Re-fired the engine, and again...no sound at all. No chimes. No sound from radio. Just silence.

I drove another 2 miles, pulled over in to a side street, and turned the car OFF. I then re-started the engine again, and still....nothing. No chimes. No sound from radio. Just silence.

I removed the right-side fuse panel cover next to the console, and pressed in all of those fuses. I then re-started the car. No results. No chimes. No sound from radio. Just silence.

So I exited the vehicle, opened the hood, and removed the main fuse panel cover. I proceeded to press down on each and every fuse/relay, and then re-covered the fuse box, and shut the hood.

I inserted the key in the ignition, and I had Chimes. I had sound from radio. I had no more silence.

Loose fuses folks. They happen. easy fix. ignore the nay-sayers. Believe those who have experienced this problem. it's a quick fix...next time I wont waste my time with *their* theories. I have proven my own.

I'm glad you think that's the problem and that you corrected it. But you proved VERY LITTLE.

You have a 2 piece fuse box. When you pressed down all the fuses, you reseated the pins to the connectors from part A to part B. And that has been proven by GM. There is a write up on it.

All you are doing is applying a band-aid approach.

Try pulling a fuse or relay out about a 1/4 inch....which in most instances, is far more than the lid will allow ( notice that the lid has projections under the diagram chart to prevent the fuse from more than about 1/8 inch movement). Then apply a multimeter to the fuse. I bet you have voltage.....which would disprove the loose fuse theory.

My point for being persistant in this is........people believe the loose fuse problem and it only covers up a more serious problem covered by warranty....repair or replace the fuse box.

26,000 miles....NEVER reseated a fuse, yet.

Oh and I forgot to say......the underhood fuse box does not have a fuse or relay that directly support the radio....with the exception, perhaps, of the BCM's. However, if they were indeed the cause of the problem, you would have much more electrical problems than JUST the radio.

71k miles on it...did it only twice.
and like I said...the BCM which controls the "sounds" in the car(chime, flasher, radio) I had no sounds...at all.

I inspected the fuse box today...all I found were a whole bunch of fuses that were properly seated in their slots, where-as yesterday, many of them had walked UP enough that I could depress them.

The fuse box was replaced under warranty at the dealer by the last owner for the same problem, according to the work order history at the dealer.

I've put 36k on it since last year when it first happened.

I've got my proof...that's all I need.

if it persists, and/if I discover there is more to it, I will surely post, as my whole goal is to help others...without scaring them in to going to a dealer and spending money.

warranty claims...that's a different issue...but many of us year-one owners lost our wimpy warranties a LOOONG time ago.

You can make a bad knee feel better by wearing a brace, but it'll never be fixed until you see a doctor. 71k on mine too and I've never encountered an electrical problem, and I only pushed in my fuses once back when SoCal started this thread, which for me was about 70500 miles ago. I drive on some of the worst back country and brick roads in the state too.

I'm still putting my money on a sketchy BCM or power spike that's causing a fault requiring a reboot of the module a few times.

anyone have a fuse box diagram. my power steering keeps going out

Look under the lid, it shows everything there

anyone have a fuse box diagram. my power steering keeps going out

Page 5-83 and 5-84 in the 2006 owners manual.

Click the following if you need a book for reference.

http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3074

replaced the fuse (#1 on diagram) but no help.

finally had the dealership install new EPS motor ($104 + $120 labor + 1.5hrs) = fixed power steering!

tried calling Chevy for possible customer courtesy refund (of part or labor or both) but no luck.

replaced the fuse (#1 on diagram) but no help.

finally had the dealership install new EPS motor ($104 + $120 labor + 1.5hrs) = fixed power steering!

tried calling Chevy for possible customer courtesy refund (of part or labor or both) but no luck.

You need to contact the head of Chevrolet Customer Service. His name is Ben Dover. ;)