the reason i was worried about the pillar coming off w/o side curtain air bags going off is I am going to replace the tweeter w the JL XR650-CSi 6.5's i have bought.

i bought 2 sets on Ebay and got some great prices.
i also bought one 12 in JL 12w3v2 D4
i am powering all of these w 3 JL AUDIO 300/2 2 Channel Amps. JayDogg has been great in advising me on all of this and even made a wiring diagram in paint and emailed it to me

my hats off to Jaydogg for all the help,,,, i have benn told by several that this will be a very very clear and very very good system

the cool part is i am getting it cheaper then the original Kicker stuff i was looking at and feel i am getting better equipment. all of this will go in this weekend and during the week next week in time for my trip to Florida to PDR school on the 13th.

Speakers will all be in by Friday and then amps in by next wed.

i got all for 1174.26 new w delivery included and the Kicker was a lil over $1400 local but i could have gotten it cheaper too. this should have been around 1500 to 1800 for the JL even at discount prices so i feel good.

i was thnking about mounting all 3 amps on a small piece of thin plywood in the back well so they cant move around and then buying a small fan from radio shack and mount it on the wood as well to help cool off the amps.

i can not wait to hear this system.

Buying off ebay is kind of scary because a lot of the people selling on there aren't authorized dealers of the products they are selling thus negating the factory warranty. If the products fail the person or business may have their own return policies but you have no coverage from the manufacturer. That being said I can't wait to see your system CJ.

CJ, you normally do, take pix. And if you can...a write up. I plan on purchasing my audio/video equipment, as my finances allow, and will be installing everything by the end of the year. I also plan on buying some gear via ebay, but I'm going with Infinity audio equipment and a Alpine head unit.

I've been debating where to put the amps and I would like a ten inch sub. I would like to do all this with minimal losses to my stock storage room. I'm thinking about a custom made sub enclosure. This is all in the planning stages. Hopefully I can get some ideas from your setup, when it's completed.

Ng

Before you buy that Alpine head, you should take a listen to my Pioneer system.

Guaranteed to turn your head. :eek:

I have under $600 in my system too. (*retail is much higher, of course.)

No offense, but I've owned Pioneer in the past and I'm going with Alpine :one: . Pioneer doesn't even come close. There isn't even a need to debate, I've already made up my mind.

Ng

To each his/her own. I'm a mastering engineer, own a recording studio, and am very particular about music.
I'm surprised that since you live so close to me you wont' even have a listen.

Oh well, you dont' know what you're missing - Alpine has nothing even close to this setup.

the whole thing will be stock and in the same places cept the sub will have the grill outside but in the same spot. the amps will be in the storage area in the back. i am hoping the grille that comes with it will let the storage floor clear it.

the crossovers may be in the same place or under the back seat. i have to see how much room is there too. the amps might fit too under the back seat..
will see

i will take pics for you guys.

i am stoked about the system.

To each his/her own. I'm a mastering engineer, own a recording studio, and am very particular about music.
I'm surprised that since you live so close to me you wont' even have a listen.

Oh well, you dont' know what you're missing - Alpine has nothing even close to this setup.

Pioneer doesn't offer anything I like...Alpine has more options when it comes to head units.

Ng

I'm surprised that since you live so close to me you wont' even have a listen.


Come on, you were in the Marines, you know once we make up our minds there's little anyone can do to change it :lol:

Ng

Yep. OoohhhhRAH! :thumb:

:lol:

i have to see how much room is there too. the amps might fit too under the back seat..
will see
There is alot of room under the rear seat. just not any room to get to anything with out pulling the 3 bolts on the front. (I was trying to put a dvd player under there but couldn't change discs.) IMOP it would be a good place for amps.

There is alot of room under the rear seat. just not any room to get to anything with out pulling the 3 bolts on the front. (I was trying to put a dvd player under there but couldn't change discs.) IMOP it would be a good place for amps.

Is there enough room for the amps to run cool?

Ng

I truly think so. The gap in the cargo area will provide ventalation. I was running two Orion HCCA's in a trunk of a mazda many years back with a lot less ventalation and problems were minimal. :one:

I truly think so. The gap in the cargo area will provide ventalation. I was running two Orion HCCA's in a trunk of a mazda many years back with a lot less ventalation and problems were minimal. :one:

Thanks bro...Time to take the rear seat off and do a recon mission :D

If you take the 3 bolts in the front off the seat folds up for easy access. ;)

I just had mine out yesterday. There are 2 small cubbys under the seats, but there will not be ANY ventition-and amps need air. Even a fan would not help, since I do not believe there will be any source of air to blow from. It would be fine for cross overs, distribution blocks, etc.

If you take the 3 bolts in the front off the seat folds up for easy access. ;)
3 bolts behind the seat?
there are 4 in front

so you took out the back 3 and leaned the seat forward?

cj first off your are welcome. 2nd off glad you got everything. you will be a very happy man trust me. did you get a different head unit or are you using the stock one? as for the pioneer versus alpine in head units, this one is a very hard one for me. i like pioneers but the alpine just had so much more, and i really liked that i could control my amps from the hu, and that pretty much sold me on it. i had some pioneers that when subs where hooked up i couldnt control them and had problems tuning me system and got way to much bass because of it. if i had to do it over again kenwood kdc-889 or alpine 9855 would be the only choice. i will eventually most likely getting ride of the 9855 i got to got to a double din kenwood dvd player unless i find an alpine that does what i want. Back on topic cj have fun installing and make sure you get that second battery like i have in that diagram, 3 amps might be a little much for the stock hhr battery, better save than sorry.

Yep There are 2 bolts for the 60% part and 1 for the small section, then the seat pivots. And they have these strange rectangular washers attached that must be in the right position to secure the plastic cover.

... i like pioneers but the alpine just had so much more, and i really liked that i could control my amps from the hu, and that pretty much sold me on it. i had some pioneers that when subs where hooked up i couldnt control them and had problems tuning me system and got way to much bass because of it...alpine 9855 would be the only choice.

Yeah, take that Mike! :D Chaulk one up for Alpine baby! :thumb:

Ng

I'm so jealous!!!
:bow:

i want pics too... i cant wait to see what you have done with this, you will love the sound.

Yeah, take that Mike! :D Chaulk one up for Alpine baby! :thumb:

Ng
Ng this is just for you, in case you havent seen it....... (http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1408&page=1&pp=10)

Ng this is just for you, in case you havent seen it....... (http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1408&page=1&pp=10)

Yeah, I like what you did with your setup Jay. I'll be using your setup as a template for mine, as long as it's cool with you :D. I like wher you have your amp. I need to find out if I can fit a 6 channel there. I don't want to give it all away, it will be the shiznit when it's done, but this is what I have in mind:

First Choice (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-UG4f2ok6d2Q/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=168550&I=500IVAW200)

Second Choice (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-UG4f2ok6d2Q/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=168550&I=020VRX755)

AMP (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9718751453&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT)

Hopefully, finances allowing, it will be done around X-Mas time

Ng

Yeah, I like what you did with your setup Jay. I'll be using your setup as a template for mine, as long as it's cool with you :D. I like wher you have your amp. I need to find out if I can fit a 6 channel there. I don't want to give it all away, it will be the shiznit when it's done, but this is what I have in mind:

First Choice (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-UG4f2ok6d2Q/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=168550&I=500IVAW200)

Second Choice (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-UG4f2ok6d2Q/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=168550&I=020VRX755)

AMP (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9718751453&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT)

Hopefully, finances allowing, it will be done around X-Mas time

Ng
should be able to, there will be an other amp under there when money permits, and it will have the same foot print as the one that is there now, yes it will be alpine and yes 100-125*4 are the rms ratings. i dont have the model number because they have blocked so much crap here at work.

Yeah, take that Mike! :D Chaulk one up for Alpine baby! :thumb:

Ng

Not hardly. :D

I will refer you HERE (http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?p=32280#post32280) for more info. :cool:

Hey! I like Kraco!

Not hardly. :D
I will refer you HERE (http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?p=32280#post32280) for more info. :cool:
what pioneer H/U is that Mike?
does it have where you can us XM with it or do you have to reset everything back up with it. i like the fact that the upgraded sound has MX/fm/am all on one screen in setting ur channels

but that pioneer h/u looked great

Still rather have Alpine or Clarion over Pioneer...More bang for the buck and just my personal preference...Sorry Mike :p:

Alpine I really want (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-TR5vfAaFU8A/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=168550&I=500IVAW200)

Clarion unit I'll get if I don't go with the Alpine (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0eOOhDqNbOk/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=168550&I=020VRX755)

Ng

what pioneer H/U is that Mike?
does it have where you can us XM with it or do you have to reset everything back up with it. i like the fact that the upgraded sound has MX/fm/am all on one screen in setting ur channels

but that pioneer h/u looked great

Hi CJ! It is a DEH-8600MP (now discontinued). the current model would be the DEH-9600MP - but they are not cheap! It is XM compatible - but I don't listen to radio much ever.

No hard feelings on whatever ANYONE chooses for car audio.

I just wanted to show my Pioneer is not the "average" model. :D

And neither is the guy that wins most of the shows and has the record for Loudest SPL....

too crazy for me

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/article/two/0,,2076_263341722_262409755,00.html

Ford F-150

Scott started developing the 2002 Ford F-250 back in May of 2002, he broke it down right to the frame for the construction of the subwoofer enclosures; which currently holds 13 Pioneer Premier TS-W5000SPL subwoofers!
Steel bars were used to reinforce the frame of the enclosure, so that the truck could withstand the enormous pressure that is generated by this silver beast. The windshield was removed and replaced with 2-1/2-inch thick plexi-glass. Each door weighs in at a whooping 200 pounds, both utilizing 1” x 2” aluminum hinges to lock them down in place. The air space inside the truck is vacuum-sealed to prevent air leakage, which is crucial in Sound Pressure Competition.

The truck holds 52 amplifiers, 72 16-volt Turbo Start batteries and three Ohio Generator 285-amp alternators and produces 115,200 watts of power. A Pioneer DEX-P1R is cleverly mounted on a special pod outside of the car to control the system during competitions. Scott uses Scosche Interconnects, exclusively.

Spring Break Nationals
Recently at the 2005 Spring Break Nationals…

Scott demolished the competition in the dB Drag Extreme 5+ class competition, clocking in at an amazing 176.6dB! That was just about 7dB over the second place finalist.Scott took another first place at the event, in MECA X3 class, in turn setting the loudest score ever recorded in MECA history at 176.2 dB. In IdBL, he set a “Highest in IdBL History” record with a monstrous 179.0 dB. The highest ever recorded with an Audio Control System, at the time of the event.

Career Stats
2005 SBN Extreme 5+ World Record Holder 176.6dB
2005 SBN MECA X3 class Loudest dB Drag 176.2 dB
2005 SBN IdBL “Highest Ever” 179.0 dB
2004 USAC Legal B&K World Record Holder 176.3
2004 USAC Bass Olympics World Champion 176.7
2004 USAC dB 5 World Champion 172.0
2004 dB Drag Back to Back Deathmatch World Champion 167.5
2004 dB Drag Extreme 5+ 2nd 172.5
2003 Legal B&K 175.3
2003 USAC dB 5 World Champion 174.9
2003 dB Drag Deathmatch World Champion 166.8
2003 dB Drag Extreme 9+ World Champion 173.3

pics?

pics?

Of what? :confused:

Scott's truck is insane....http://www.termpro.com/asp/competitorstats.asp?Competitor_ID=34610&Season=2006&Page=2

But the Fins got him beat this year, so far...179.5 certified

pics?


Or can someone photoshop it for him? :lol: :roll:

Just for you 06. here is the stereo he is using to win contests and the Car.
http://www.pocketcalculatorshow.com/boombox/graphics/ge-3-5258a.jpg
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.nbbecker.com/images/ghetto_cars/ghetto_car_1.jpg
:nuts:

Hi CJ! It is a DEH-8600MP (now discontinued). the current model would be the DEH-9600MP - but they are not cheap! It is XM compatible - but I don't listen to radio much ever.

No hard feelings on whatever ANYONE chooses for car audio.

I just wanted to show my Pioneer is not the "average" model. :D


hey Mike,

not to step on your toes but the 8600 and the 9600 are discontinued as of right now...the 8600 would be replaced by the 8700...but they skipped over the x700 and went to the x800....

of which there is no 8800 yet but there is a 7800 (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4039_291147601,00.html)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3442/291147601DEH-7800MP_std.jpg

and a 9800 (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4039_291147633,00.html)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3442/291147633DEH-P9800BT%20regular.jpg

I am a long time Pioneer fan...and that 9800 is sweet I'd love the bluetooth capabilities built in...tokyo any chance of you cutting me a deal on one of those?

-wC

Not stepping on my toes Wheels - you are right - it's discontinued. You can still find new ones on eBay though. In fact, every once in a while you will see a DEH-8600MP on thter at a good price. They match the HHR interior nicely too!

The most comparable current model to mine is the:

DEH-P780MP (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4041_291159491_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_ ProductDetailComponent)

Which sells for around $420.

Hope it helps,

Wow Man.
Looks just like my neighbors on the next street over.

he tried to get me to put that radio in my HHR

Just for you 06. here is the stereo he is using to win contests and the Car.
http://www.pocketcalculatorshow.com/boombox/graphics/ge-3-5258a.jpg
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.nbbecker.com/images/ghetto_cars/ghetto_car_1.jpg
:nuts:

tokyo any chance of you cutting me a deal on one of those?

-wC


Tokyo, for reason's he can't discuss in a thread Mike may see, doesn't carry Pioneer. :lol:

Actually, shoot me an e-mail at willdo@4dcomm.com and I'll see what I can do. In the interim, go to www.sonicelectronix.com and see what they're prices are. They're usually very reasonable!

Tokyo, for reason's he can't discuss in a thread Mike may see, doesn't carry Pioneer. :lol:

Actually, shoot me an e-mail at willdo@4dcomm.com and I'll see what I can do. In the interim, go to www.sonicelectronix.com and see what they're prices are. They're usually very reasonable!

Just added sonicelctronix to my favorites. Will use them for comparison when I'm ready to buy my Alpine or Clarion head unit.

Ng

Tokyo, for reason's he can't discuss in a thread Mike may see, doesn't carry Pioneer. :lol:

Curious minds want to know why the owner of an audio shop doesn't carry pioneer?

Ng

Pioneer won't sell to him based on the quality of other brands he endorses...

(they don't want to be "guilty of poor sound quality by association.") :D

Juuusssst Kidding Will! :thumb:

Ouch! :eek: SoCal knows how to hit below the belt. :lol:

Hey! I think we should have a special part of the forum for those who like Pioneer stereos...

(Uh, oh, - here we3 go again...!)

well then there should be one for the alpine lovers too.

Tokyo reels from the savage attack from the left coast!

Actually, since there's a Wal-Mart a football's throw away from my Satellite Beach store, there's no point in trying to sell Pioneer, or Sony for that matter. Nobody wants to go toe-to-toe with Wally world... The Roman Empire tried, and look what happened to them!

Tokyo reels from the savage attack from the left coast!


:D

Actually, since there's a Wal-Mart a football's throw away from my Satellite Beach store, there's no point in trying to sell Pioneer, or Sony for that matter. Nobody wants to go toe-to-toe with Wally world... The Roman Empire tried, and look what happened to them!

So...just as I thought, it boils down to "proprietary bias." :lol:

That's OK, - it's the same reason I don't sell K&N or Eibach. :thumb:

When you own a company, you get to make those kinds of choices...

So, like all things, this discussion relates to Kung Pow, the Movie.

I am (oddly), the caucasian warrior surrounded by the Pioneer-Loving horde. Alone, I must triumph, lest I fall with no honor...

To relate, here's the battle of which I speak, ENJOY:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/105348/kung_pow_opening_fight/

That movie rocks! :D

Will,

I will email you a little later in the summer(I have to clear up a little bit of money(the misses has reeled in my spending on electronic toys)...it doesnt look like the 9800 isn't released yet as no one has them in stock...but thanks for that website they do have some very competitive prices....

-wC

Crutchfield has Alpine's new line in stock come June...I really want that IVA-W200 but if the finances don't allow it I'm going with clarion's single din 7" touchscreen.

Ng

Crutchfield has Alpine's new line in stock come June...I really want that IVA-W200 but if the finances don't allow it I'm going with clarion's single din 7" touchscreen.

Ng
does that work with the amp link with the mrd-m1005. im still trying to find a 510 amp link. i want to see my amp vitals and tune the amp from the HU, but i think i have to order on from japan.

does that work with the amp link with the mrd-m1005. im still trying to find a 510 amp link. i want to see my amp vitals and tune the amp from the HU, but i think i have to order on from japan.

The IVA-W200 supports 5.1 and will work with those amps, but those amps don't come cheap!

I think I saw one in crutchfield...

i have a mrd-m1005 that is what is running my subs. im going to get the mrv-f545 for the insides, pushing type r comps all the way around. they all will work with my 9855 and the amp link. would be nice to see what temp the amps are running from right up at the deck. do need alot of dynomat so i can crank the m1005 up a little bit more.