View Full Version : Interesting article in Dallas Morning News


The Curly 1
09-10-2008, 10:47 PM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/070908dnmethypermiling.35fa7769.html

This is a good article to read for everyone. One guy thinks he is doing the world a favor by holding them up.
Wow! It takes all kinds to make a world. Curly

wxman
09-10-2008, 10:57 PM
"If I can hold the whole conga line back to help the entire line save fuel so they catch a green light, I'll do it," Mr. Gerdes said.

Road Rage. I've heard of it.

Clevelandhhrss
09-10-2008, 11:56 PM
"If I can hold the whole conga line back to help the entire line save fuel so they catch a green light, I'll do it," Mr. Gerdes said.

Road Rage. I've heard of it.

Yeah some of these guys are crazy. It's the american way to take something like efficient driving, or drugs, or money, or anything else to a ridiculous and dangerous extreme. Problem is people like this make the news, but they don't help anyone. Ignorant people think that dangerous stunts are the source of hypermiling advantages and articles like this encourage that ignorance. Its a shame.

If i drove like that ..I TOO could get 40+mpg OVERALL in a stock SS. Il keep away from road rage an get 36+. The extra 10% mileage isnt worth the hassle to myself or to other drivers.

wxman
09-11-2008, 12:41 AM
I watched a guy ride 6" behind someone for 2 miles honking his horn, speeding up and hard braking right on his butt just because the dude was going the speed limit or maybe 2-3 under. It was utterly ridiculous how mad this guy seemed to be for no reason. It's scary sometimes.

The Curly 1
09-11-2008, 07:22 AM
The people who think it is their right or duty to hold up others pisses me off. They can drive fast or slow it does not matter to me but fast is the left lane slow is the right lane. I do not care if I am going 85 miles per hour if someone comes up behind me I move over and let them by as quickly as possible. They may be taking pregnant wife to hospital or what ever, none of my business nor is it my job to hold anyone up. I drive to get where I am going, I do not have a problem if they are going slow in the right lane but if they are going under the speed limit in the fast lane that is stupid. Even in the far right lane 55 MPH is too slow to be safe around here most of the time. You need to go with the flow of the traffic and never hold up anyone.

One other thing I know is that many of the accidents in traffic is caused by people trying to get around slow traffic in the fast lane. The sad thing is they are usually not involved in the accident it is the person behind them that has to pull out into faster traffic in the right lane. Not to mention all of the road rage they cause.

There was a lady the other day going 42 MPH in the fast lane during rush hour the other day. People were having all kinds of trouble getting around her and they were honking their horns and swerving to get around her. When I was finally able to get by her I just tapped my horn and she flipped me off! The speed limit was 60 and most were going 65 to 70 but she has to go 42 in the fast lane.

saltyfishguy
09-11-2008, 10:17 AM
I just put a cowcatcher off a freight train on my HHR and now I plan to crush anyone doing this around me. Here it will be mostly elderly or lost tourists, so be it...everyday some stupid azz has to be the protector of the roads and drive under the posted limit, man I need a 50 cal mounted or something, I swear there is not too much that gets at me but this does. GET OUTTA MY WAY!

GRUMPEE
09-11-2008, 11:18 AM
I originally signed onto their forum, because I was interested in some of their techniques. Some those techniques are good common sense and some I disagree with because of the danger to the driver and to others as well as being an annoyance to others. Reading members comments after a few weeks,I found that their members opinions and mine were in conflict so much that I asked Wayne Gerdes to take me off their roster of members.

I'm all for decent fuel economy and being green & having fun doing it, but I guess I'm too selfish and "me oriented". I like my car and I'm not willing to ride my bike to work or take mass transit, to lessen my impact on the environment.

I remember reading a comment about a VW fest going on somewhere, and one of the readership made a mention to the effect that these VW enthusiasts were selfish and why didn't they car pool to the event.:roll:

Can you imagine they'd freek if they showed up at car show event, they'd immediately start complaining about all the FSPs (cleanmpg lingo for fuel sucking pigs)

ChevyMgr
09-11-2008, 11:27 AM
Can you imagine they'd freek if they showed up at car show event, they'd immediately start complaining about all the FSPs (cleanmpg lingo for fuel sucking pigs)

With lipstick no less.

AaronSS
09-11-2008, 12:34 PM
I watched a guy ride 6" behind someone for 2 miles honking his horn, speeding up and hard braking right on his butt just because the dude was going the speed limit or maybe 2-3 under. It was utterly ridiculous how mad this guy seemed to be for no reason. It's scary sometimes.

Was he in the left lane? I want to mount a potato cannon full of ball bearings somewhere on my ride for use on people who do the speed limit in the left lane.

wxman
09-11-2008, 01:08 PM
No, this was a 2 lane city street, speed limit 40. He was in the right lane and I think there was a large truck in the left lane matching speed so he couldn't go around at first. The guy had some chances to change lanes, but was having too much fun trying to scare the bejeezus out of this other driver.

I just held back a good distance and watched to see if the guy was actually going to rear-end him or not. I really thought he might.

GRUMPEE
09-11-2008, 01:54 PM
I watched a guy ride 6" behind someone for 2 miles honking his horn, speeding up and hard braking right on his butt just because the dude was going the speed limit or maybe 2-3 under. It was utterly ridiculous how mad this guy seemed to be for no reason. It's scary sometimes.

And to this type of extreme. I think it's funny. There's a saleen mustang on my commute always in a hurry speeding up and jumping ahead if he sees an opening in traffic. He was ahead of us by a mile and I still caught up to him at every light. I guess he didn't realize it was a lost cause racing from stoplight to stop light

The Curly 1
09-11-2008, 08:24 PM
Every morning on the way to work there is an older man (my guess is 55) he has a white Chevy Colorado and he is in the right lane going 20 MPH or LESS. The speed limit there is 45 and most everyone is going 55 to 60.
Even though he is in the right lane he is going so slow he is a hazard to himself and everyone around him.
We all just honk at his stupid ass when we get around him. He never looks up or anything just keeps put putting along.
It is frustrating because if there is a lot of traffic he can have traffic backed up for miles just because of one idiot. There are redlights on the road so if you are in back you catch every light red and still get help up by him at the next light. Being a two lane road it is difficult to get around him.
Most drivers are considerate and good drivers. Many of us drive over the speed limit myself included but I always watch out and respect other drivers.

If you are driving 10 MPH under the speed limit in the fast lane or holding up others then you need to get off the road.

Clevelandhhrss
09-11-2008, 09:02 PM
I watched a guy ride 6" behind someone for 2 miles honking his horn, speeding up and hard braking right on his butt just because the dude was going the speed limit or maybe 2-3 under. It was utterly ridiculous how mad this guy seemed to be for no reason. It's scary sometimes.

These are the same people that think that driving 55-60 when the posted limit is 65-70 is suicide. If we all think that driving 5 under or just at the speed limit is suicide, it wont be long before we all drive 100mph. Its a self fulfilling prophecy. If I drive 57 in a 65 zone. You all will just have to go around, sorry its the LAW.

Clevelandhhrss
09-11-2008, 09:09 PM
The people who think it is their right or duty to hold up others pisses me off. They can drive fast or slow it does not matter to me but fast is the left lane slow is the right lane. I do not care if I am going 85 miles per hour if someone comes up behind me I move over and let them by as quickly as possible. They may be taking pregnant wife to hospital or what ever, none of my business nor is it my job to hold anyone up. I drive to get where I am going, I do not have a problem if they are going slow in the right lane but if they are going under the speed limit in the fast lane that is stupid. Even in the far right lane 55 MPH is too slow to be safe around here most of the time. You need to go with the flow of the traffic and never hold up anyone.

One other thing I know is that many of the accidents in traffic is caused by people trying to get around slow traffic in the fast lane. The sad thing is they are usually not involved in the accident it is the person behind them that has to pull out into faster traffic in the right lane. Not to mention all of the road rage they cause.

There was a lady the other day going 42 MPH in the fast lane during rush hour the other day. People were having all kinds of trouble getting around her and they were honking their horns and swerving to get around her. When I was finally able to get by her I just tapped my horn and she flipped me off! The speed limit was 60 and most were going 65 to 70 but she has to go 42 in the fast lane.

Most places it is illegal to go that much under the posted limit. She was obviously too old or to elderly to be driving. This has nothing to do with hypermiling. If you feel unsafe with drivers going 55 in the far right lane, you need to slow down and gain control of your vehicle. 55 is the legal limit for many trailers and space saver spares. Sorry charlie, it's not my fault if you cant get around someone going 55 in a 70 two lanes over (right) from the highspeed lane, if you hit them YOU will be cited. On most single lane roads you should be clear to pass crossing over the center dashed line. Thats how you deal with slower traffic, not honking, cussing, and bumper riding.

Clevelandhhrss
09-11-2008, 09:09 PM
I just put a cowcatcher off a freight train on my HHR and now I plan to crush anyone doing this around me. Here it will be mostly elderly or lost tourists, so be it...everyday some stupid azz has to be the protector of the roads and drive under the posted limit, man I need a 50 cal mounted or something, I swear there is not too much that gets at me but this does. GET OUTTA MY WAY!

Get an SS and just drive around. Save the ammo LOL

Clevelandhhrss
09-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Every morning on the way to work there is an older man (my guess is 55) he has a white Chevy Colorado and he is in the right lane going 20 MPH or LESS. The speed limit there is 45 and most everyone is going 55 to 60.
Even though he is in the right lane he is going so slow he is a hazard to himself and everyone around him.
We all just honk at his stupid ass when we get around him. He never looks up or anything just keeps put putting along.
It is frustrating because if there is a lot of traffic he can have traffic backed up for miles just because of one idiot. There are redlights on the road so if you are in back you catch every light red and still get help up by him at the next light. Being a two lane road it is difficult to get around him.
Most drivers are considerate and good drivers. Many of us drive over the speed limit myself included but I always watch out and respect other drivers.

If you are driving 10 MPH under the speed limit in the fast lane or holding up others then you need to get off the road.

I'd agree 100%, but this has nothing to do with hypermilers again, just dumbazz wanna-be drivers.

saltyfishguy
09-11-2008, 09:52 PM
Get an SS and just drive around. Save the ammo LOL

you can't cure stupid with an ss...:wtf:

The Curly 1
09-12-2008, 12:15 PM
I have no problem with people going 55 in the right lane. I do have a problem when they are going less than the posted speed limit or flow of traffic in the fast lane.
To me that is just stupid.

GCarp
09-12-2008, 12:47 PM
The posted speed limit is just that - a maximum allowable speed. I know most (if not all) Interstates also have a MINIMUM posted speed (or at least used to) of 40 MPH. I also usually drive faster than the posted limit by 5-10 MPH but I don't get upset when I come across someone going slower than me. I just wait my turn then go around when I think its safe. Yeah, its frustrating sometimes, but they are allowed to be there too.

BTW, I got caught doing 5 over on the PATPK a number of years ago and got away with a written warning (they were running a speed trap just over the crest of a hill). The rest of the trip I never exceeded the speed limit and almost got clobbered by every car that came up in the right lane. Nerve wracking? ... Hell yeah. Just my .02 worth.

Clevelandhhrss
09-12-2008, 05:14 PM
you can't cure stupid with an ss...:wtf:

I can, that's what the boost is for... Right?? :D

saltyfishguy
09-12-2008, 05:16 PM
no friend, that cures boredom I am sure, you can't cure stupid that easy

Clevelandhhrss
09-12-2008, 05:32 PM
no friend, that cures boredom I am sure, you can't cure stupid that easy

I guess your right. I fell better though after overtaking them , and then shrinking them in the rearview with the lnf-ray!:one: