Let me put the feelers out and ask. What about an HHR Magazine? It's tough to have a publication for just one model vehicle - but mags like "Hot Camaros" and "Mustang Illustrated" have survived for decades. Keeping in mind that Chevrolet could always expand the lineup with a 2-door coupe, a panel, possibly even a convertible...it seems like a magazine for enthusiasts is inevitable. So, I bring you:

http://www.songramp.com/photos/ArtistArticle5393.jpg

Questions:

1. Would you buy such a magazine? Or do you feel the internet has enough "free" information already that keeps you informed.

2. Do how-to tech articles on installing aftermarket parts interest you - or would you just pay someone to do this anyway?

3. Would you be interested in seeing high-quality photo features of customized HHR's - or, once again, does the internet provide enough of this for you already.

4. Would you consider a specialized publication like this a benefit as a "buyer's guide" for aftermarket accessories, (i.e., a place where advertisers will list their wares), or can you find what you need already without such a resource.

5. Does anyone still read magazines (in the real world). :D

A little backgound; I have spent 18-years in the publishing industry, writing and managing many automotive and powersports titles. I believe I have the ability and connections to produce a great little mag for HHR owners - but would like a little "real world" feedback from some of you as to whether there might be any interest in such a mag.

Feel free to "fire away!"

-Mike :cool:

I'd totally go for it.

ide buy it if its under 4$

I wanna buy ad space for chevyHHR.net! How about pg1? Do it :D

JonelZ - you KNOW I'd hook you up! :thumb:

Let's get some more feedback first...

-Mike

I'm a noob, But I'm down!

I'd buy a magazine. I find most of my info online. However, I would like to have hard copies of tech articles and how to's.

5. Does anyone still read magazines (in the real world). :D I have to read something while sitting on... hemmm, the "throne." :D

I say go for it but keep it reasonable. The HHR is starting to pop-up all over so having readership shouldn't be an issue.

If it was put together well and all that jazz itd be awesome.

I would, but after the car has been around for a while like a year or two. There isn't a huge aftermarket yet and how many tech articles could you do on a new car with hardly any aftermarket parts? Also there aren't many custom HHRs yet so how many feature cars could you have? I was a subscriber to Muscle Mustangs And Fast Fords for as long as I owned my Mustang. That is one of the thickest magazines out there and filled with tons of info so if an HHR mag was done right like MM&FF I would be all over it in a heartbeat.

I would, but after the car has been around for a while like a year or two. There isn't a huge aftermarket yet and how many tech articles could you do on a new car with hardly any aftermarket parts? Also there aren't many custom HHRs yet so how many feature cars could you have? I was a subscriber to Muscle Mustangs And Fast Fords for as long as I owned my mustang. That is one of the thickest magazines out there and filled with tons of info so if an HHR mag was done right like MM&FF I would be all over it in a heartbeat.

I agree with Captain. I'm sure it can be done right. But currently there is not much that can be done at this point. Within Time There could be more. I would not do a monthly Mag at this point. If anything a quaterly one would fit the spot. Plus mass producing and reaching a Target audience takes time. If you need any writers or assistance I do have free time to help.

Actually, most magazines today always work on a 3-month lead time. That means you finish your March issue at the end of December. This way you will always have enough time to fill your next issue with new material. Believe me when I say - there are already enough custom HHR's out there to fill a years' worth of issues, and this number will just keep grownig.

Currently, I am working with several manufacturers in developing bolt-on kits for the HHR. Intake systems, lowering kits, cat-backs, seat covers, carbon fiber accessories, stereo fit kits...the list is always growing. As time progresses, more and more aftermarket items will be available. You will be surprised at how quickly people jump into this market.

On production - no problem, I've been a managing editor for automotive magazines since the '80's. There is a wealth of knowledge and editorial help at my disposal.

Please...keep the feedback coming! :thumb:

Let me know when it comes around! :thumb: :beer:

SoCalHHR your a man that sure knows what he is talking about. We can learn alot from you.

I'm here to learn as well. This forum is made up of many talented people.
By contributing together we can all make it a great resource for HHR owners! :thumb:

Make it and ill subscibe! Ill advertise my site in it too!

Bump!

Count me in! That sounds awesome!

ill be the guy who writes the camaro page

Go for it Good Idea!!!!Let me put the feelers out and ask. What about an HHR Magazine? It's tough to have a publication for just one model vehicle - but mags like "Hot Camaros" and "Mustang Illustrated" have survived for decades. Keeping in mind that Chevrolet could always expand the lineup with a 2-door coupe, a panel, possibly even a convertible...it seems like a magazine for enthusiasts is inevitable. So, I bring you:

http://www.songramp.com/photos/ArtistArticle5393.jpg

Questions:

1. Would you buy such a magazine? Or do you feel the internet has enough "free" information already that keeps you informed.

2. Do how-to tech articles on installing aftermarket parts interest you - or would you just pay someone to do this anyway?

3. Would you be interested in seeing high-quality photo features of customized HHR's - or, once again, does the internet provide enough of this for you already.

4. Would you consider a specialized publication like this a benefit as a "buyer's guide" for aftermarket accessories, (i.e., a place where advertisers will list their wares), or can you find what you need already without such a resource.

5. Does anyone still read magazines (in the real world). :D

A little backgound; I have spent 18-years in the publishing industry, writing and managing many automotive and powersports titles. I believe I have the ability and connections to produce a great little mag for HHR owners - but would like a little "real world" feedback from some of you as to whether there might be any interest in such a mag.

Feel free to "fire away!"

-Mike :cool:

Well..that's 12 readers.

Still not nearly enough to put out a magazine. :eek: Let's keep bumping this to check response and ideas.

Thanks,
-Mike

It seems there are quite a few people who belong to this club, but don't participate in the forums alot, why not mail questionaires out to each individual, so they can voice their opinions privately. you might find that you have more support than what you realize. If you don't want to mail, do a mass questionaire, in each person's private message area?

I think you have a great Idea and I would buy. I believe the HHR will be one of the cars that will always be a classic. The first year modle will increase in value if we will just hold on to them.

SoCal,

I think the idea is great! Count me in.
I used to be in the Late Great Chevy car club when I had my 1961 Impala. The club had a magazine that was probably 15-20 pages and showcased members cars, tech tips, etc. There is nothing wrong with starting small and growing from there.
Look forward to contributing to the forums.

Iowa1960

Sounds like a great idea. It might also lend some leverage to use with suppliers, as you already suggested, but might work as a means of giving the group some clout with GM as well. You can go to them and say this is what our group of owners want in your future designs and these are the MANY problems, some serious enough for you to have to buy them back, what are you going to do for us? As a group that has enough interest in their vehicles to want and support a magazine, we can gain the necessary clout to spell out a direction Chevy should pursue when they are teatering on the edge.

I would subscribe!!

No doubt, I would subscribe to this Magazine! I check the newstands weekly for auto mags with HHR articles and stories and can't find enough! This would go great on my coffee table. :beer:

Hi Guys!

It sounds great, and as much as I DO NOT read car mags I WOULD buy the HHR one for sure. I think I read someone say start small and grow from there, I think that you would be surprised as to how many you will actually need to publish. I'M IN!!!!!

Why cant you make an online mag and see how many times its downloaded based on the IP address and then ask for people to donate to keep it going untill you can actally print. Doing a PDF file mag for awhile has a lot less printing costs on your end.

Because I can't use my computer on the crapper! :D

Why cant you make an online mag and see how many times its downloaded based on the IP address and then ask for people to donate to keep it going untill you can actally print. Doing a PDF file mag for awhile has a lot less printing costs on your end.

You bring a valid point SI, but for me, I want the feel of a magazine. Something you throw in your travel bag when catching a plane. I guess since I have 3 sometimes 4 computers I work on a day, I get burnt out on computers. I remember the ol rag Maximum Rock & Roll, they had in the back, individual scene reports about music and what not. I still have a couple of good rag subscriptions like JUXTAPOZ and Military History. I would definitely by the mag. I know my family has saved about 20 or 30 yrs. of Hot Rod Mags and sometimes they have info that saves the day! I am a pack rat by nature, so it would be another collection for me to start. I finally gave up comic books which was hard to do, I stopped at the 8000 + mark lol. There is so much you can do with a Mag, you would be surprised how much info is out there (even if it is limited in scope). If it develops like your Web site SoCal, it would definitely succeed. If it is done right and professionally, people will buy it, even car buffs. It would definitely warrant a trial at the very least. I have some printing and some publishing experience, I would be willing to promote, distribute, lick stamps, whatever....It sounds like a good deal to me. Sometimes, technology has its drawbacks, I like tradition and keeping some tradition sacred. I love technology, it is how I make my coin now, but I like some things to stay old school, like reading the printed word on paper (recycled paper preferrably) but I think you get my drift. Isay GO FOR IT! Heck, if need, have "pin-up girl and guy" but not together lol...ok my rant is over....

Fenris :beer: :p:

Thanks Fenris222. Afterall we are living in the computer age

Wow pinups too, but you have to be fair!!! Add some hot guys not just hot chicks.....hell I'd buy it just for that, LOL!

I'll pose in one of my masks! :D

Man....you are getting WAY too OT for me CH! :eek:

:( :p: :D

Thanks Fenris222. Afterall we are living in the computer age

I hear ya SI, I mean that is the way things are, you have to have web access as well, the two rags I mentioned, have Web sites and I check them out all the time. You definitely have to attain a good medium...Like I said your point was a good one...

I'll pose in one of my masks! :D

Note to self please do not buy that issue when it comes out.

:barf: I'll pose in one of my masks! :D

I do not think so

Note to self please do not buy that issue when it comes out.
ROTFLMAO!

I think we would end up paying him not to do it. Becasue he seems like a person that would do anything upon request. Have you read any posts that captain could not answer and did not disagree on.

I didn't feel like reading through all 5 pages of this but me personally would not read a HHR specific mag. I already subscribe to Chevy Hi-Tech performance, so if they were to do a HHR as a project car then I would read that. To me the HHR, nobody take this personally, isn't really a car to mod, it is cheap, reliable transportation that is different from other things on the road. When I think mod I think getting into the engine what heads/cam combos work, dry kit vs. wet kit, stroker kits, etc. Those other mags have drag-race tips and racing events, which you can't really due with an HHR, because how many people are actually gonna take it to the track? I probably will once or twice for shits and giggles, but thats it. Most brand or make specific mags are aimed at the performance crowd, which like I said the HHR is not a performance vehicle. Hope nobody takes that the wrong way, if you want to try and mod your HHR to be fast have at it, it's just not for me. All I need is a lower center of gravity, some big wheels, and maybe a couple cosemetic things. Just my 2 cents.

I would definitly be a subscriber! and a featured ride???

Well thats up the publisher

I hate to say this, but that is what ChevyII( Nova's),Ford Fairlane's, Pontiac Lemans,Chevelle's,Cutlass, and a few others were made to be. Just cheap transportation, no character or big ideas there. BUT LOOK WHAT HAPPENED !!! Car guy's got crazy and did all kinds of mods to these cars, then you get L-79 Nova's, Thunderbolt Fairlane's, GTO's,454 Chevelles, W-30 Cutlass's need I go on? Just because a car seems mondaine now, doesn't mean something big will not happen.
Camaro just started out as a pony car to off set the Mustang, 6cylinder and small V-8's, but didn't take long for big things to happen there either. When you get car guy's together in a creative mind set you dont know what will happen. They are already saying 270hp out of the 2.2/2.4 liter engines, what next? This HHR is definately something big, and only good things will happen if everyone would explore doing there own thing with modifications. The old saying will hold true, you build it they will come!!!!!!!!!! Car guy's bought cheap transportation and modified it, because it was more cost effective.
I also forgot the Plymouth Cuda or Barracuda, it started out as cheap 6cylinder transportation, but look what happened there, add a HEMI and you have a $500,000- 1,000,000. dollar car !!!!! Not to mention the performance. I was a teenager during the 60's, and I never thought that any of those cars would have the lasting impression that they do today, if I had , I would have bought several of them, and put them away. What I'm trying to say, is don't disregard the HHR or any other car out there, because they maybe the next big thing in the near future.

One drasticallt big difference between the HHR and all the cars you mentioned. Those are all rwd, big cube, V8 cars. You will never see GM drop a factory V8 into the HHR, you may see a factory boosted application, but thats onyl gonna get you maybe 220 hp, still not impressive to me.

"You will never see GM drop a factory V8 into the HHR..."

No. But plenty of other people are already! (all pics are rear wheel drive HHR's)

http://www.hhrclub.org/galleries/hhr-custom-by-year-one/resized_hhr-custom-by-year-one_31.jpg

http://www.hhrclub.org/galleries/hhr-custom-by-unique-performance/resized_hhr-custom-by-unique-performance_11.jpg

Some are even putting spare engines in the back for traction!

http://www.hhrclub.org/galleries/chevrolet-custom-buildoff-hhrs-at-sema-2005/resized_chevrolet-custom-buildoff-hhrs-at-sema-2005_16.jpg

Pics used courtesy of HHR Club (required legal hoopla)

"You will never see GM drop a factory V8 into the HHR..."

No. But plenty of other people are already! (all pics are rear wheel drive HHR's)

http://www.hhrclub.org/galleries/hhr-custom-by-year-one/resized_hhr-custom-by-year-one_31.jpg

http://www.hhrclub.org/galleries/hhr-custom-by-unique-performance/resized_hhr-custom-by-unique-performance_11.jpg

Some are even putting spare engines in the back for traction!

http://www.hhrclub.org/galleries/chevrolet-custom-buildoff-hhrs-at-sema-2005/resized_chevrolet-custom-buildoff-hhrs-at-sema-2005_16.jpg

Pics used courtesy of HHR Club (required legal hoopla)

There goes all your cargo space which is one of the reasons people buy them. There goes your factory warranty, there goes all the structural integrity of the car as it was not designed to handle the torque. How many everyday HHR owners are going to go through all the trouble of converting there car over to rwd, drop a v8 in it, plus all the custom work that would have to be done, mounting brackets, lines, etc. Two vehicles that were done up to draw interest in the car proves nothing, except that it can be done if you have the resources and money. I could make a shopping cart runs 10's if I had the money but at the end of the day it is still best used to lug my groceries around the store and out to the car.

That what "customization" is all about - and that's what sells magazines.
Not shopping carts with stock wheels.

To each his own!

I would make mine a V8 RWD if I had the time, money, and facility.

That what "customization" is all about - and that's what sells magazines.
Not shopping carts with stock wheels.

To each his own!

Correct but you feature something like that in a mag, and 99% of your reader base will never be able to do it. Not to mention your reader base would be so small to begin with that I couldn't see it being finacially successful. Like I said it would be better if an established mag, GM Hi-tech Peformance, Super Chevy, Chevy Performance, etc. was to get one as a project vehicle and showed people what worked and didn't work.

Reader's may not be able to do it - but they sure like reading about it! Also, readership doesn't pay for a magazine's publication cost; advertisers do. Most magazines would go under in a heartbeat if the readership was their sole source of support.

I've been in magazine publishing for 19-years, and have counted the cost on this venture. Instead, I've decided to start an aftermarket business for HHR's right now. The magazine may come later...

I agree. I couldn't do like 75% of the s**t in MM&FF to my Mustang but I still liked reading about it and how it was done.

Reader's may not be able to do it - but they sure like reading about it! Also, readership doesn't pay for a magazine's publication cost; advertisers do. Most magazines would go under in a heartbeat if the readership was their sole source of support.

I've been in magazine publishing for 19-years, and have counted the cost on this venture. Instead, I've decided to start an aftermarket business for HHR's right now. The magazine may come later...

I personally am not going to buy a mag for one article, especially when I can find the same info on the net. I want to read about stuff I can do on my own car and see the results. Dyno, track times, etc. I want to know what works and what doesn't. I really don't care about some one off rwd HHR that I'll never run into on the street, or see, and that I'd have to hae a Bill Gates budget to duplicate the results.

Your not even slightly interested? I have a subscription to Car & Driver knowing I can't afford like 1/2 the cars in it. Same with Hot Rod, I don't own a classic ride but I still like to read about them. I enjoy reading, especialy about subject matter I like. I could care less if the cars are unattainable or I can't do something to mine, because I love cars. Not to mention you get to see the beauty of the vehicles themselves.

I just read about the new Bugatti ($1,250,000.00), that does 257mph in Car & Driver.
Don't think I'll be buying one anytime soon - but it was a great read!

That car just kept getting more and more expensive.

I just read about the new Bugatti ($1,250,000.00), that does 257mph in Car & Driver.
Don't think I'll be buying one anytime soon - but it was a great read!

I wouldn't go out and buy the mag for just the one article. With Car and Driver, I see most of those cars on the street. When are you ever gonna see a rwd, rear motor, HHR on the street, never. Most car entusiasts dont have the time, money, or resources to put into doing a conversion like that, I may broswe through the article at the news stand and note the company so I could check out their web site, but I wouldn't buy it.

:eek: Wow, I never though I would see a anti-car magazine car guy. :confused: Weird but cool. :beer:

Well forget it. Aaron is right, and because of all his negative posts - I'm not going to do the magazine any more!

Now, can we get on with life! :D

No they were not, Not 1 car I mentioned started out with big V-8 engines. They all started out with 6cylinder or 283/327 small blocks. It was the thinkers and modifiers that started changing these cars. They were originally built as econo boxes to combat the Volkswagon Beetle. I really don't know how old you are, but all of these wonderful big block cars started out as econo models for the every day Joe. Only through modification and experimenting did all of these muscle car models come about. These cars are only popular today because of my age group keeping them alive and willing to pay the money to have one and or build one.The big blocks didn't really become consumer ordered in these cars until late 1964 and 65 and most of these models were around 3-4 years before that happened. Will I be able to do most things in the magazine, most likely not, but I still can read about them, and pick and choose what ideas I like. That's the whole thing , when you put collective car minds together, anything can happen.

I never said big blocks. I said big V8's in comparsion to a 2.4L, 4 cylinder. I'm not telling people not to mod there cars and I'm not saying don't do an HHR specific mag, all I sad was I wouldn't read it. Mod the hell out of your car, some people may think 14's are fast, I don't. It's your car do whatever the hell you want to do it. I'm just being logical, speed=money, one of the main selling points of the HHR is it's cheap, it's the only reason I bought one. Your average HHR owner bought the thing because it looked different than the Civic in his neighbors driveway and was way affordable, not to mod into a racecar. I said it before you'll never see GM come out with anything more than maybe a boosted version of the ecotec in the HHR, no rwd, no V8, no 250+ HP, it won't happen. If I wanted to go fast again I would have bought a better suited platform, vette, GTO, etc.

Well forget it. Aaron is right, and because of all his negative posts - I'm not going to do the magazine any more!

Now, can we get on with life! :D


Damn him!!!!!

Yeah, he's a little too negative and hostile sometimes. I think he needs a hug! :p: :beer:

Now boyz...let's move on now - everybody...group hug! :thumb:

lol :D :beer:

AHHH! HUGFEST!!! Back!!!!!!

Come on Nate feel the heterosexual man love. :D

Now you are all just scaring me. :cool: :beer: I'm just set in my ways I absolutely hated it when some dipshit in a Civic or such, would try to get me into a race when I had my Camaro. Probably has to do with the ticket I got for minding my own business, while some dipshit kept revving at me. I got pulled over he got away. I'm just anti the whole sport compact scene, and trying to make an HHR fast kinda incroaches on that in my mind.

I was the same way in my Mustang. I never though I would be interested in a hot roding a four cylinder untill the HHR came along. Hell I never thought I would give up my Mustang. I want to make it as fast as possible not to have a steet racer and compete with all of the little compact cars that think they are race cars because of the exhaust and 5' high spoiler, but for my own personal satisfaction. I used to get Civics and such trying to race me all the time. I would just let them speed off and think they beat a Mustang but I knew I could take them it just wasn't worth the time, effort, or risking the ticket.

Speed Cost money. But style to cause people to go oh wow to casue a everlasting memory is priceless

:confused: Are you talking about Chevys design for the HHR? Because style and looks sure as hell cost a lot of money also. ;) Give it a couple of years when you see like 10,000,000 HHRs on the road and it won't have that same wow effect. Well, unless you spent a lot of money on the looks. :beer:

Thats not what I meant. You took it way out of context. It cost money for speed. Preformance parts, intakes, chips, turbo, noz, exaust, etc..Yet for looks, it cost money too. Better interior, wicked paint jobs, and sound systems. The HHR is a car for all. It can be done as a low rider, has that classic looks, and be a speed demon, can have a different look in total. Everything cost money. But your ride is always going to be your ride.

Ah, now I get it and totaly agree. Thanks for the explanation. Its been a rough day and I'm not as sharp as I should be. Plus I'm kind of depressed because my HHR is at the dealership and not with me. BTW it's NOS, Nitrous Oxide System.

Thats not what I meant. You took it way out of context. It cost money for speed. Preformance parts, intakes, chips, turbo, noz, exaust, etc..Yet for looks, it cost money too. Better interior, wicked paint jobs, and sound systems. The HHR is a car for all. It can be done as a low rider, has that classic looks, and be a speed demon, can have a different look in total. Everything cost money. But your ride is always going to be your ride.


You said speed demon, noz, and HHR in the same breathe. Blimey, I'm gonna go cross eyed arguing this one :p: ;)

Ouch. Noz? Speed demon? HHR?

Speed demon, Sure.

"Noz" , HHR, Come on Mike.

"Noz", please tell me you didn't actually think that's what it spelled?

Noz is actually, As Mr. Howdy said, N.O.S. Or Nitrous Oxide Systems, A Holley Performance Company. Common Misspellings include NAWS, NOSS, Spray, Happy Juice(My term), :D My sister's fave, Nitrous Ox Side!!!!! LOL, She actually thought that's what it meant, No longer, As I have informed her the ways of a speedfreek, And she wants a Mazda 3 :mad:.

NATE Sorry it was late. Your right. I should of doubled check before posting. LOL

Ah, now I get it and totaly agree. Thanks for the explanation. Its been a rough day and I'm not as sharp as I should be. Plus I'm kind of depressed because my HHR is at the dealership and not with me. BTW it's NOS, Nitrous Oxide System.

Thanks for understanding my point

Plus I'm kind of depressed because my HHR is at the dealership and not with me.

Why is your car at the Dealer? I do not recall any other posts from you in regards to your car being serviced. I know you were getting the speakers installed after the holiday

You said speed demon, noz, and HHR in the same breathe. Blimey, I'm gonna go cross eyed arguing this one :p: ;)

Well there is a custom V-8 Automatic HHR. That's in a HotRod Mag

Why is your car at the Dealer? I do not recall any other posts from you in regards to your car being serviced. I know you were getting the speakers installed after the holiday

Small body issues. I bent the hatch at the edge of the bar closing the hatch with the bar (Just a warning close it using the handle or hatch itself not the bar). There was a problem with the clear coat on the fender and a dent from inside of the drivers door. This is the second time its went into the body shop for small issues.

Just one more thing that really bothers me, just because you have a lively debate and two people don't agree, does not make it a negative response. I respect SNKSKNR94's rights to express his likes and dislikes, as should the it go for my likes and dislikes.

I was just busting his balls because of a couple of other post in different threads. Nothing serious meant! :beer: Never once did anybody say he doesn't have his 1st amendment rights to freedom of speech. Calm down a little and don't take it so seriously. :p: Look at the way I phrased things in a joking manner. Come on, I used the term heterosexual man love! How much funnier can you be? :D

Just one last thing, I love my HHR, over the last 40 years of driving I have owned 250+ cars, all makes and models, and it is one of the best cars for the money I have ever owned.

Holy s**t! You deserve an award just for the number of cars you have owned. :one: :thumb: :beer:

Yeah stop stepping on my First Amendment rights, you bunch of a-holes!! :D
What I find funniest about this entire thread was that my first post said something to the effect of not trying to piss people off with my comments, even when I prepare people it doesn't go right. Oh and all those old muscle cars would have ended up with larger motors anyway. I don't think many people were going out and buying a 6 cylinder dart then dropping a hemi in it.

Someone Please make an HHR magazine!!
Ill get a subscription if one gets made!!

You know what that is exactly what they did, the grass roots drag racers of that time RAMCHARGERS did exactly that in 1962. I had one 2 years ago with a 413 Max Wedge engine in it that I sold for over $40,000. You know what I'm done arguing about this subject. You have no idea what you are talking about, 24 years old come on, I have 4 sons older than you, that at least know something about this subject. because I have been building Classic cars as a hobby for well over 30 years. My last 3 ChevyII Novas have sold collectly for $83.650.00. I built all of these cars. I think it was a big mistake joining this site. I really thought this would be a good place to exchange ideas, boy was I wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enough said GOOD BY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didnt mean to piss in your Cheerios, gramps. I work on cars for a living and have more time under the hood of one already in my 24 years than you probably have in your life time. There is a huge difference between a god damn 60's muscle car and a HHR. It is comparing apples to oranges, mod the shit out of your HHR, try to turn it into a race, I don't give a shit, I'm not saying don't do it. ALL I SAID WAS A HHR SPECIFIC MAG IS SOMETHING I WOULDNT READ AND THAT MODDING ONE TO BE FAST WAS ILLOGICAL TO ME!!! Is that clear enough for you?? There is a local kid here has a Cavalier with an ecotec, all moded to hell with a big turbo, it runs approx. 13.8 at around 100 mph. That is not fast to me nor would I dump that kind of money into a car to be that SLOW. Doing those same mods to an HHR is going to result in even slower times given the weight difference and aerodynamics, that is not fast enough for me.

I agree with you on that. The HHR is not meant for speed.

Definitely not!

http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/Speedweek%2005/photos_14/IM009568.JPG

http://forum.avtoindex.com/foto/data/media/5/2006_chevy_so-cal_hhr_1.jpg

Same Ecotec engine - pumping out 1000hp w/turbo. Same 5-speed - (although air-shifted!) - and mid-engine, rear-wheel drive.

All about speed! (And I like to read about it!) :thumb:

NATE Sorry it was late. Your right. I should of doubled check before posting. LOL

LOL, No prob bob.

Thanks SoCal! Now I have a good shot of my favorite HHR for my desktop. We'll I guess it's my second favorite, right next to mine.

No Problem Trooper Boy!

I didnt mean to piss in your Cheerios, gramps. I work on cars for a living and have more time under the hood of one already in my 24 years than you probably have in your life time. There is a huge difference between a god damn 60's muscle car and a HHR. It is comparing apples to oranges, mod the shit out of your HHR, try to turn it into a race, I don't give a shit, I'm not saying don't do it. ALL I SAID WAS A HHR SPECIFIC MAG IS SOMETHING I WOULDNT READ AND THAT MODDING ONE TO BE FAST WAS ILLOGICAL TO ME!!! Is that clear enough for you?? There is a local kid here has a Cavalier with an ecotec, all moded to hell with a big turbo, it runs approx. 13.8 at around 100 mph. That is not fast to me nor would I dump that kind of money into a car to be that SLOW. Doing those same mods to an HHR is going to result in even slower times given the weight difference and aerodynamics, that is not fast enough for me.

Dude, I agree with what you are saying about speed, but you are way off base as far as thinking you have more knowledge or experience then "gramps" or any other motor head who is almost 2 1/2x's your elder...you can rip on me all you want, you are 24, in my life time (and I am 42) I have always given the benefit of the doubt and respect to the originals who have labored to make hot rodding what it is today. Even if you spent 24hrs. a day under the hood since you were 10, you still don't have the knowledge of guys like H2rman. It's great you have so much confidence, but you are a LONG ways away from being self anointed, self appointed, know it all, end all on mechanicin...say what you want....and you will...but this seems to be the attitude of some of the future generation of Hot Rodders....They already know everything....I am happy for you...

Still learning and always respectful to those who made my path possible...
Fenris :bow:

...but this seems to be the attitude of some of the future generation of Hot Rodders....They already know everything....I am happy for you...

Hey now! I'm not that way! :) There are quite a few of "The future generation of Hot Rodders" That do actually learn from the pioneers of the hobby. Well, We try to anyway. :red:

Hey now! I'm not that way! :) There are quite a few of "The future generation of Hot Rodders" That do actually learn from the pioneers of the hobby. Well, We try to anyway. :red:

That's my point Nate, exactly, I am always willing to learn! lol I am not being a hard a$$, it just struck me funny the comment snake made....I HATE piss in my cheerio's! :eek: The future is bright, doesn't mean everyone is going to agree all the time....water under the bridge! :p:

Fenris :thumb:

Yeah, same here! I wouldn't know anything about cars If it wasn't for the older guys that showed me. I was working on cars when I was 5 with my step-day. But then again I'm pretty old school for a 28 year old. :beer:

So because he is old means he has more knowledge about cars than me?? My dad is old and can't tell the difference between a carbed car and a FI car. I have plenty of certifcates, training, and experience from both GM and ASE that say I know what the hell I'm doing and talking about. I have no problem with old school hot rodders, I work with quite a few of them, I have a problem with somebody telling me I don't know dick due to my age, when their only argument has to do with cars from 30-40 years ago, it's apples to oranges. I will agree that the bonneville HHR is pretty cool, but you'll never find anything close to that on the street or straight from GM. Like I said I could put a shopping cart into the 10's, but at the end of the day it is better holding my groceries.

No but he mention the cars he built not just worked on. Age has nothing to do with knowledge just experience. You might know as much about working on cars as him but he has way more experience. He lived through the muscle car era, you and I didn't. The older guys know true hot roding! Most of our gereration doesn't, they know The Fast And The Furious. :p:

Not a clue.

Edit: After doing some research, I now know. :D

Ok, smart one lets test your knowledge, first big block in a chevy production car?

58 impala had a 348, but I honestly don't care if I'm right or wrong. If you really want play this game with me explain the oiling sytem in the new Z06. I have built fast cars as well and had in a hand in others, and I know quite a bit about GM's history, and I understand what you are talking about with Ramchargers and what not. Thats not my point, my point was you'll never see similar things going on with the HHR, for the third time it's apples to oranges. Two completely different eras with two completely different types of vehicles. Most dealerships back then were family or privately owned. Now most are corporate, and you could never get away with swapping a HHR to a rwd layout and dropping a V8 in it, GM's warranty policies are different now, everything is different, it is a different era.

EDIT: Times up on my question, lets here what google had to say.

Well I'm off to bed have to get up early so I can go to work and pretend I know what I'm doing. Guess google didnt have much to work with huh?

Dude, Google had nothing to do with it thanks.
Family works just as well.

I have plenty of certifcates, training, and experience from both GM and ASE that say I know what the hell I'm doing and talking about.

Your instuctors were all in their early 20's right? :p: :poke: I know the new Z06 uses a dry sump oiling system because I read about it in Car & Driver. As far as the specifics of the new Z06's oiling system I couldn't tell you because I have never worked on one.

Could someone say Tread twist. We went from an HHR Mag to a Z06

Could someone say Tread twist. We went from an HHR Mag to a Z06

A post was made and then deleted full of retarded trivia questions, I simply added one of my own. All of my instuctors were actually older, one of them retired in the middle of the semester, wanna talk about a car guy, he had a massive garage with something like 70 cars all in different phases of restoration. I don't think he hasn't gotten rid of any car he has ever owned.

Cool. Don't take anything I say personal. I didn't remeber that post. I just thought the whole age issue shouldn't have been brought up. I know where your coming from. At 28 I am the youngest supervisor in my company so I know what its like when your elders think you are some idiot kid that doesn't know a damn thing. I had one employee that was more than twice as old as me and every time I told him to do something he had a look of hatred in his eyes because he thought he should have had my job. But we have to pay respect to the older guys that started what we carry on.

Cool. Don't take anything I say personal. I didn't remeber that post. I just thought the whole age issue shouldn't have been brought up. I know where your coming from. At 28 I am the youngest supervisor in my company so I know what its like when your elders think you are some idiot kid that doesn't know a damn thing. I had one employee that was more than twice as old as me and every time I told him to do something he had a look of hatred in his eyes because he thought he should have had my job. But we have to pay respect to the older guys that started what we carry on.

I can relate to that Capt. I headed the Melt Dept. at North Star Casteel when I was 22. The approach I took was diplomatic with the older guys. I told them that me being in charge is so I can take the heat for mistakes. Yet, I told them I definitely wanted their input and all major decisions will be by quorum..soon, I was able to get their respect because I learned to make good decisions and I always kept them in the loop, not just the old timers, but everybody in the crew. Everybody had a say, but it ultimately came down to me making the call. Nobody is doubting your ability snake and if anybody has seen pics of your camaro, they can see that you know what you are doing. It may not seem fair sometimes, but the pecking order marches on, right or wrong, soon, it will be you speaking to young whipper-snappers of days or yore! I hope my remarks did not offend as they were not intended so...lol this Mag is close to turning into "Soap Opera Digest" D'OH!....um, strike that last comment! :p:

Merry Christmas Everyone!
Fenris

Nah nothing you or Howdy said busted my balls, it's good.

Hey my kid bought a Ford Focus and they have a dedicated mag, and I would definitely support it by subscribing and shopping advertisers. I might even want to contribute articles, car show reports etc. I just bought my HHR last week, for the total purpose of having fun, customizing it and basically playing like I did back in the day!!!

I dont want to be the negative one here but, when i need info i come to the net, get what i want when i want. I always like to search car forums to see what the 411 is on a certian vehicle (hence how i got here). Forums give you the ability to talk to the people that have made it work and the ones that struggle to find why it wont work. Its alot better having the ability to talk to a person rather than reading an article that just misleads you and doesnt always cover every little nook and cranny of a job. Also Tech articals in magazines are never on time with what im modding. IMHO it doesent seem like a good idea these days (to me) to invest in something like this. Now the man with the forum that will continue to grow, catch the eyes of vendors that will end up paying for the website (and alot of the time give extra earned income to the owner) seems like the right investor.

and mike i know youre not trying to get rich off the magazine, but you wanted an opinion and i think magazines are seeing their last days.

just my .02

:thumb: :thumb: I give the idea Two thumbs up i would spend my Money on that!

Well I subcribe to C&D and MT. I pick up Focus magazine when I see it on the news stand. I would support an HHR mag. It would be nice to read a fair article on an American car for once. I say go for it.

I'd subscribe! There is another market out there that doesent have internet acess.
I like the idea of having tips and tricks refrence points available away from the computer.
Heck, my ol man has VW stuff in page protected binders that he refrences often!

I'd subscribe for sure! I normally travel a minimum of once a month and search high and low for an automotive magazine that has something about the HHR in it for the flight.

CBL

sounds like a great idea thats the way to go mike every one will benefit from this and we become a stronger hhr comunity :one:

count me in

If you look at the date of my original post in this thread - it was made in October of 2005! I abandoned the mag idea shortly after and started SoCalHHR's (www.socalhhrs.com).

I decided that having already spent 20-years or so working in and around magazines, it would be better to start an aftermarket company that specializes in HHR parts right now...

And I'm VERY glad that I did! :D

I'd buy it

Why cant you make a small 10 page mag then work from there.

how about a user newletter? a modest fee of course for postage, printing etc, like a subscription...even quarterly! .... naw guys, he did that route as mentioned earlier.
or a newsletter with every purchase made through SoCalHHRs.com, no, that wont work either. Mike provides a nice flyer with purchase allready.... any others interested perhaps in such an effort? Don't get me wrong, this site and SoCalHHR.com is great too! Just throwing out the idea.

Not to blow holes in your idea, Sindy, but why couldn't that just be posted here as a pdf? Or, for that matter, just make it a monthly post in the forum news...oh hell, what could we POSSIBLY say in any newsletter that isn't beaten all to death in there forums already? :D

oh hell, what could we POSSIBLY say in any newsletter that isn't beaten all to death in there forums already? :D

agreed :)

I think its funny that they have a mag for the Ford Focus. It comes out I think once a qtr.

Yep, Focus Fanatic Magazine. Some of the customs in there, Are pretty neat!

I Would Love An Hhr Mag. Or Even Just A News Paper Like Mag..

I read Car and Driver i would love to see articles on the HHR,i would buy it.

I Would Love An Hhr Mag. Or Even Just A News Paper Like Mag..

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/pats50fan/smilies/welcome4.gif to the site!!!

Ok , I did not want to all the post, but here sometning about the initial question,

Will be any interest in a HHR Magazine?

Here my answer, why not!!

Here a example of a magazine Domestic Driver Magazine (http://www.domesticdriver.com/) this start of a from the J-Body Magazine that was only for the Cavalier and Sunfire platform, this is not a big magazine but is very nice, after the ens of J-Body platform they went to a change as the DOMESTIC DRIVER MAGAZINE. We can ask them for a HHR section, I'M not very good in english, but some one from here can ask them.... this is a small group of people tht do that magazine for fun and to inform people about there car....

I came across this thread by accident, and I never actually saw the original image that was at the start of this thread, but it got me thinking... yes, I would subscribe to an HHR-based magazine.

In fact, if anyone wishes to be involved in it (i.e. fund it), I present to you my idea...

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I would be totally down for one as long as there was some SS specific things in there a lot. I think having profiles of some custom HHRs with some text on them would be sweet, maybe a double page spread or two of small photos of "readers rides", tech tips, helpful links, aftermarket parts (HHR Specific, none of the universal stuff)

Considering the HHR is about to roll out it's 4th model year and the small amount of "HHR Specific" things out there, I don't see how this could run as an monthly rag, maybe annual or semi annual....

And talk about post digging.........:lol:

Would be great. Tips on installation of aftermarket parts would be great along with some ideas on customization. Pics of readers rides would be cool too.

I'd subscribe!:thumb:

I would totally go for it. That would be awesome. I do get stuff online, but I would love a hard copy to show off and set out :)

We've got all of the pics, how-to & information we need right on this site...no need to put it in print!

Count me in i like a good read on a Sunday afternoon on the back patio. I would pay for it in a heartbeat.:bow: :usa:

I would buy it!

Have you thought of doing a subscription on-line magazine/newsletter? Would be easier to produce and distribute. See how that went for a while then make the move to print if need be.
:thumb: :thumb:

yes hell yes I would to be the FIRST subsciber "COOLCHEVY"

The big Question is........Was there ever a HHR monthly or bi monthly magazine?

The big Question is........Was there ever a HHR monthly or bi monthly magazine?


The Last post before Yours was 3 Years ago. That place closed shop quite awhile ago. I Doubt very much there ever was a Mag.

The Last post before Yours was 3 Years ago. That place closed shop quite awhile ago. I Doubt very much there ever was a Mag.
I will have to agree with you.

It would have been Cool, but I don't think it happened. Not that I ever heard of anyways.

Read post #113.

Regarding post #113:

SoCalHHRs closed shop, but has left the site up as a resource for HHR owners new and old. Take a look around at our various articles and how-to's; you just might find something of interest!

This member has established and folded his business during the time this thread had been in existence!

Honestly, I would take it. I just question mass market appeal since there's only one generation of HHR. Perhaps if it included some other ecotec equipped vehicles as a side feature (Cobalt, G5); or at least used these vehicles as info for engine and suspension tech.

I don't know how long you could run it as a monthly, but a quarterly may hold up a while too.

:deadhorse:

Regarding post #113:

SoCalHHRs closed shop, but has left the site up as a resource for HHR owners new and old. Take a look around at our various articles and how-to's; you just might find something of interest!

This member has established and folded his business during the time this thread had been in existence!

Guess I should have been more specific about "reading post#113". I was refering to the fact that it said they had abandoned the magazine idea long ago. That's what this original thread was about,starting a magazine.

Put me down for a subscription!

Seems to me the HHR are picking up in popularity....people have taken notice and are talking...so maybe a mag would be nice...Think of all the tricks and mods that would be discovered from those that are unaware of this site! I see plenty of modded HHRs that dont come here,,,unless they lurkers..exposure brings knowledge.

Not sure if someone has already mentioned this (I skipped to the last page), but an HHR magazine should be online, not in print format. Saves you $, saves us $, easier for everyone, and can even be edited when necessary (imagine publishing wrong information and not being able to change it).

And I'm not talking a PDF file either, you can have a subscriber login, and display pages online, which can be as easy as posting HTML pages.

I would buy it even subscribe to it. You could put in a readers rides page with photos submitted, even if you have only six issues a year.

Best of luck & be nice to see something like that :thumb:

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Put me down I would like a Mag. for the HHR.:thumb:

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Why is this thread still open?http://i54.tinypic.com/24fg3n4.gif

I have no idea..... :skull:

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THis is an idea that needed to be done in 06 not when the last one is rolling off the line.

Pass as it is tough enough to make a magazine for a full brand other than the Camaro and Mustang let alone a make that is out of production.

I keep laughing at the OP's signature. 'I took off the valve cover, therefore instant expert.'

I keep laughing at the OP's signature. 'I took off the valve cover, therefore instant expert.'

That is just silly as you also have to have stickers in your window too. :lol:

zombie thread

Ha ha, old thread!

If it wasn't for the fallout of the economy I bet we would have seen some different HHRs. I know my dad said he saw an HHR convertible at one of the proving grounds (or tech center, can't remember which) when he used to deliver oil. So I'm sure there would have been a 2 door as well. We'll never know.

It was nice to go through and reminisce on the old and original members of this forum......most who are now gone in a different direction. Kind of miss them though.

IMO, as many others have said, the mag would NEVER make it. Need a circulation of about 50,000 just to do start up and circulate for a year. On-line would be another resource, however. Minimal costs if someone wanted to spend the time.

Honestly this forum would be about the same as the magazine if it were online...

I keep laughing at the OP's signature. 'I took off the valve cover, therefore instant expert.'



Bah ha ha ha ha:lol: