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dbarberaz
05-08-2006, 09:59 AM
The All-Data links no longer work since you cannot access them for free.

Technical Service Bulletins and Recalls are posted on the Forum here:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23231

dbarberaz
05-09-2006, 10:25 PM
Just a bump since people are asking

Firewatcher
05-11-2006, 10:57 AM
Thanks for the info

dbarberaz
05-15-2006, 12:18 AM
I went thru the full list of TSB numbers listed. I have updated everything to do with HHR's and even a couple that may be worth reading.

I will check every few weeks to see if there is anything new

dbarberaz
05-20-2006, 01:20 PM
Just looked no new updates. I think this also needed a bump seen people asking about stuff listed

Alzonie
05-26-2006, 06:50 PM
:thumb: Thanks for your research on our behalf!:bow:

dbarberaz
05-26-2006, 10:26 PM
No problem and as of today no new updates

TomsHHR
06-03-2006, 09:17 AM
Bumped it up...

dbarberaz
06-03-2006, 10:58 AM
I was just checking on this. No new updates as of today.

dbarberaz
06-11-2006, 04:42 PM
Update was posted. Seems to be a hissing noise from the AC.

For those of you with turn signal problems, there was nothing on the site about this.

I will be out of town for the next week or so. Updates may not get posted for a couple of weeks.

ernie12b
06-18-2006, 10:08 PM
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1149058800000_1150095600000_05-06-04-035B/351.html

dbarberaz
06-23-2006, 10:14 PM
No new updates. I did get caught up and all checked. Sorry it took a while I was out of state.

SoCalHHR
06-24-2006, 12:28 AM
Hey! We just appreciate your commitment to keeping this thread updated! :thumb:

I have personally printed out several TSB's from this thread and taken them to the dealer while getting warranty work done. I know it saves the Tech's time if they don't have to search for them.

Kudos for a job well done! :bow:

BlackHHR
06-24-2006, 12:31 AM
Hey! We just appreciate your commitment to keeping this thread updated! :thumb:

I have personally printed out several TSB's from this thread and taken them to the dealer while getting warranty work done. I know it saves the Tech's time if they don't have to search for them.

Kudos for a job well done! :bow:

I agree with Mike. Very good job on keeping this thread updated. I to have printed some and gone to the shop with them. Keep up the good work.

jx3
06-24-2006, 01:49 AM
I've only had to use the "rear hatch" tsb.....but it's good to know this is here, just in case!

HHRvey
06-28-2006, 12:32 AM
Thank you so much providing the tsb list. This is such a wonderful resource for all of us! I've been waiting to see if GM was going to give us a break on installing running boards due to paint chipping, but thanks to your info, I learned they probably wont. My chipping is very minimal so far ( for which I am thankful) so I'm sure I wouldnt qualify. If I had it to do all over again, I would install the running boards. Maybe I will anyway:smile:

dbarberaz
06-29-2006, 11:00 AM
Thank you everyone for your kind words. Just felt these items should be posted with updates and said what the hell I can do this.
There was an update added with today's date (6/29/2006)

dbarberaz
07-04-2006, 02:33 PM
Since we have new HHR owners I thought I would bump this up. Also just check no new updates :thumb:

el gringo
07-06-2006, 10:56 PM
Bought a new HHR 6/29/06 and have the noisy a/c, thought it was the way the car is (first chevy) Nice to find you guys (chevyhhr.net)

bigbear2k
07-08-2006, 12:44 AM
Thank you dbarberaz for the TSB info on the Radio Pop! Now I can start my car with out the radio pop! :yourock:

dbarberaz
07-11-2006, 09:44 AM
New members so I thought I would bump this up. No new updates as of today

TomsHHR
07-12-2006, 10:44 PM
Hmmmm no TSB on Deer..

Carshowgirl
07-13-2006, 02:07 AM
I have had a huge problem with my key sticking in the ignition. It happened tonight so i turned the key off and on quite a few times...now i've set the security system off and my lights keep blinking and my door locks keep going off. I've tried unhooking the battery terminal, but that hasn't done anything. I'll print out the thing and take it to a dealer.

I bought my HHR with a salvage title, so i hope they will cover it under warranty, but i highy doubt it!! THANKS FOR THE INFO!!!!:bow:

bigbear2k
07-14-2006, 01:12 AM
Interior - Front Seat Squeaking Noise (http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1151478000000_1152687600000_06-08-50-007/index.html)

Engine Controls - SES Lamp ON and or DTC P0171 Set (http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1150873200000_1152687600000_06-06-04-033/index.html)

Auto Trans - 4T45-E Mid-Year Production Changes (http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1150700400000_1152687600000_06-07-30-003A/index.html)

Air Conditioning - Engine Compartment Growling Noise (http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1151391600000_1152601200000_06-01-38-004A/index.html)

dbarberaz
07-18-2006, 10:13 AM
Updates are added. Sorry with the GC/Williams trip fell behind, but everything is posted and updated. as of July 18

scaleguy
07-18-2006, 10:54 AM
Thanks for keeping us aware of the TSB, I know that I definitely appreciate it.

bigbear2k
07-20-2006, 08:25 PM
Instruments - IPC Backlighting Inoperative in Daylight (http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1152601200000_1153292400000_06-08-49-016/index.html)

dbarberaz
07-21-2006, 10:13 AM
Just one update was listed. But thought since we have so many new members join over the last month, thought we should bump this up to the top.

dbarberaz
07-21-2006, 10:17 AM
Instruments - IPC Backlighting Inoperative in Daylight (http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1152601200000_1153292400000_06-08-49-016/index.html)


Bigbear
Thanks for posting the TSB, but in an effort to keep the thread clean and not a long thread I have been updating everything on the first post so they are all right there. If you find a new tsb just send me a PM and I will get it updated on the first post. Just trying to keep everything in a simple place and neat. Thanks again for the ones you already found. :thumb:
Dwayne

nfboy
07-21-2006, 12:02 PM
Just one update was listed. But thought since we have so many new members join over the last month, thought we should bump this up to the top.

Stickied posts do not need to be bumped as they are always on top, or at least that is what I understood.....:confused:

coolsurf
07-25-2006, 06:35 PM
dbarberaz, does GM have a website with there manuals and TSB listed. I deal a lot with Toyota and they have a sight that you can pay a fee and have access to all their manuals and TSB for all their cars. www.techinfo.toyota.com. My understanding is that all car manufactures are going this way, so my Toyota inside man states.
Thanks

CHV_FRK
07-31-2006, 04:43 PM
A TSB just came out for the fuel pumps. I'll have a copy of it tomorrow to post up. Going to the hard start post to also post this info.

trey1966
08-03-2006, 09:01 PM
I hope the dealer can fix the poor audio reception with just a reprogramming of the radio. I am getting really tired of the signal going in and out constantly.

trey1966
08-09-2006, 10:08 PM
Looks like the dealer took care of the problem. Radio works great now.
Glad I went though the hassle when I am going to replace the radio anyway....

dbarberaz
08-11-2006, 10:18 AM
Been a long time but there was a couple of updates that have been posted. Thanks BigBear, he sent me a PM to let me know about them.

jimpHHR06
08-16-2006, 02:05 AM
I wanted to upgrade my sound system to the receiver that had XM Radio, and to have the sub installed, and I was informed by my dealer that unless you have that installed during assembly , you can't get the sub package, and you can not upgrade the receiver also. Sounds strange to me?

SoCalHHR
08-16-2006, 02:22 AM
I wanted to upgrade my sound system to the receiver that had XM Radio, and to have the sub installed, and I was informed by my dealer that unless you have that installed during assembly , you can't get the sub package, and you can not upgrade the receiver also. Sounds strange to me?

There are 3 different radios and 3 different wiring harnesses for the HHR's.

If you didn't get the "Premium" sound system, you wo'nt have the rear wiring harness which runs to the sub box & amp. That means you can't go low.

Better deal: install an aftermarket head for better sound quality and add a sub & amp at the same time.

Hope it helps,

jimpHHR06
08-17-2006, 03:13 AM
Yes sir, it did help..... I have to agree with you, installing a new head unit will be my best option. I did not want to go that route, but no choice now.

dbarberaz
08-17-2006, 10:34 AM
Just updated the list looks like there were 3 updates. Please remember not to post discussions about issues with your hhr in this thread. USe the search to see if others have the same issuse or post a new thread about your topic.

dbarberaz
09-01-2006, 10:09 AM
All updated as of today

scaleguy
09-01-2006, 10:58 AM
So is there a TSB on the fuel pumps yet? I have not been able to find it and would like to print it before I go to my dealer, I have already printed the paint chipping TSB...going to address this issue while shopping for 2nd HHR, still hoping for the right deal to put a second one in my driveway...

nfboy
09-02-2006, 09:21 AM
Please keep the post clean. Do not post things such as "what is this tsb about" "I have that problem" "no problems here" If you want to talk about one of the itmes please start a new thread about that issue.
Mods if you feel this should be else where in the forums please move it.


I thought we were supposed to keep this thread clean for TSB's only?

dbarberaz
10-04-2006, 01:44 AM
Well it has been a month since we have had any new TSB#s but we got a few new ones. Got them posted. And gave this a bump for the nembers that may not know about it.

On a side note it was kinda funny in a way to see TSB numbers for the 07 model years already so some cars. Seems like a lot of issues for caddy's and the new trucks.

BettieSpaghetti
10-06-2006, 11:34 AM
Found this thread today and I just wanted to say THANK YOU!!! :thumb: It's Great!

dementedone
10-26-2006, 07:42 PM
:one: Thank you for posting this info Mr. D. I had a place to begin when I took my HHR in for the steering (Clunking) noise. FYI they replaced the Intermediate Shaft and (lucky for me I had a good mechanic with a good ear) found out that took care of part of the noise, but not all. He discovered the steering rack was bad also. GM has a new part number for the replacement I was told. Also a TSB will probably be forthcoming. Thanks again.

dbarberaz
11-20-2006, 01:00 PM
For some reason it would not let me edit the post to keep things together but here are some updates.....


Auto Trans - TCM Shorts to Battery Voltage During Diagnosis and or Svc
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1160031600000_1161932400000_05-07-30-016B/index.html
Auto Trans - TCM Shorts to Battery Voltage During Diagnosis and or Svc (revised)
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1160031600000_1162195200000_05-07-30-016B/index.html
Ignition - Inadvertent Turning of Ignition Lock Cylinder
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1161759600000_1163059200000_05-02-35-007A/index.html
Antitheft System - No Crank and or Dead Battery and or DTC B3060
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1161759600000_1163145600000_06-06-04-058/index.html
Interior - Passenger Air Bag Not Flush With Dash and or Warped (not hhr specific but I think others have complained about something like this)
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1162195200000_1163750400000_06-09-41-004A/index.html

calgaryhhr
11-20-2006, 01:41 PM
The airbag TSB is close to what some of us have been complaining about but not exactly. Thanks for the information though. Greatly appreciated!

dbarberaz
12-24-2006, 09:20 PM
Here are a list of updates ......

Recall - Aftermarket Leather Seat Cover Kits
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1164787200000_1166515200000_06102A/index.html


Lights - Dome Light Inoperative
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1164614400000_1166601600000_06-08-42-008/index.html

Fuel System - Revised Fuel Injector Diagnosis
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1164787200000_1166601600000_06-06-04-064/index.html

Cooling System - Overheat and or Low Coolant and or Insufficient Heat
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1164787200000_1166601600000_06-06-02-013/index.html

hvrod
12-29-2006, 07:32 PM
HTSA Recall Campaign Number: 06V417000

Component: AIR BAGS:FRONTAL

Details: CERTAIN VEHICLES ORIGINALLY BUILT WITH CLOTH SEATS THAT WERE EQUIPPED WITH AN AUTOMATIC AIR BAG PASSENGER SENSING SYSTEM AND LATER REUPHOLSTERED WITH AFTERMARKET LEATHER SEAT COVER KITS ARE INVOLVED. TESTING HAS INDICATED THAT THE AFTERMARKET LEATHER SEAT COVERS CAN CAUSE THE PASSENGER SENSING SYSTEM TO MALFUNCTION.

Consequence: IF THE PASSENGER SENSING SYSTEM MALFUNCTIONS, THE FRONT AIR BAG ON THE PASSENGER SIDE MAY BE DISABLED WHEN IT SHOULD BE ENABLED, OR ENABLED WHEN IT SHOULD BE DISABLED. IN EITHER CASE, IN THE EVENT OF A CRASH THAT REQUIRES AIR BAG DEPLOYMENT, A FRONT PASSENGER'S LEVEL OF INJURY MAY BE INCREASED.

Corrective Action: BECAUSE A REPLACEMENT LEATHER SEAT COVER THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PASSENGER SENSING SYSTEM IS NOT AVAILABLE, GENERAL MOTORS (GM) WILL REPURCHASE THESE VEHICLES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS STATED IN GMÂ’S LETTER TO OWNERS. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR ABOUT NOVEMBER 6, 2006. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT GM AT 1-877-477-1022 TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF REPURCHASING THEIR VEHICLE.

Units Potentially Affected: 794

Recall Initiated By: MFR
Date added to NHTSA datbase: 11/01/2006

Snoopy
01-05-2007, 06:40 PM
Dwayne....

About 6 new TSB's in the past couple of days. Some HHR directed, some "general" in nature....related to all passenger vehicles, etc.

One in particular is very interesting.......dealers must return the original part that was replaced under warranty....Hmmmmmm

dbarberaz
01-07-2007, 08:54 PM
Only one I found that is not alreeady on the list.

Cooling System - Overheat and or Low Coolant and or Insufficient Heat
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1165824000000_1167379200000_06-06-02-013A/index.html

dbarberaz
02-07-2007, 08:26 AM
OK seems we no longer will be getting free updates as you have to pay $50.00 to get them. But here is a link that does list them only problem is that you get no details so it makes it tough to print anything.

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/0611bs_en.html

If anyone knows of another site let me know and I will look into it.

NateZillaHHR
02-18-2007, 10:57 AM
I was planning on getting my HHR this week but with all the problems everyone is having I don't know. I'm looking for a car thats reliable...
Are these isolated events or do most of you guys have these issues?

jx3
02-18-2007, 11:06 AM
I was planning on getting my HHR this week but with all the problems everyone is having I don't know. I'm looking for a car thats reliable...
Are these isolated events or do most of you guys have these issues?

The only issue I've had is the rear hatch not opening. I believe this was fixed on the 06 models built after a certain date. Should not be an issue if your planning on getting an 07.

Goose
02-18-2007, 12:01 PM
I was planning on getting my HHR this week but with all the problems everyone is having I don't know. I'm looking for a car thats reliable...
Are these isolated events or do most of you guys have these issues?


I have the same questions Nate


Goose

HillsdaleHHR
02-18-2007, 12:03 PM
Alot of these are on 2006 models. Most new car models do experience some problems when released that are normally solved in the first model year. Remember that this site is only a percentage of all HHR's purchased.

Alzonie
02-18-2007, 07:48 PM
.... Remember that this site is only a percentage of all HHR's purchased.

:smile: And that only a percentage of those on the site have any of the problems! Although our HHR has less than 9000mi. on it, it's used every day and we've had it for a year and a half. Our only problems have been a defective pass. side sun visor and a leaky rear shock. Both these being replaced under Warranty.:thumb:

dbarberaz
02-18-2007, 08:50 PM
I can say I have over 20k miles on mine and have had no problems. I enjoy mine and if we did not need a bigger car for the wife and kids, we would own 2 of them as she loves mine.

courthousedeb
04-01-2007, 08:31 PM
Since we can't access these anymore...does anyone have the TSB # or a copy of it for the air conditioning growl/whine? I'm going to take mine in for the armrest problem and want to have them take care of that as well. Turned mine on the other day and it's still making that noise. Figure if it's going to go to the shop, I may as well have everything fixed at once.

Thanks for any assistance or info. :smile:

Black Rose
04-01-2007, 08:52 PM
You can still get a list of the TSBs at the alldata site, just not the content of the TSB.

2006 HHR - http://www.alldatadiy.com/TSB/0611bs_en.html

2007 HHR - http://www.alldatadiy.com/TSB/0711bs_en.html

However some of the newer TSBs that have been mentioned here are not listed yet.

courthousedeb
04-01-2007, 09:40 PM
Thanks Black Rose...that should be enough info for me. :smile:

Alzonie
04-07-2007, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=Black Rose;134163]You can still get a list of the TSBs at the alldata site, just not the content of the TSB.(QUOTE]

:smile: That's kinda like a restaurant having menus, but no food!!:(

scaleguy
04-07-2007, 04:15 PM
For those of you wondering about reliability...my '06 has 42,000 miles and the only issues that I have had were the paint because of no running boards and my fuel pump was losing prime and these were taken care of not only on warranty, but immediately...I am definitely considering a second HHR when the "other vehicle" is ready to be traded...

SandyBeach
04-12-2007, 08:32 PM
Thanks for the update Scaleguy. It's great to hear the HHR will last past the warranty. Now if we can make it 100K, I'll be thrilled!

agator
04-23-2007, 08:33 PM
You can use this site to get a brief summary of TSB's. If you want to the whole bulletin, you have to pay. I have used this to research and file complaints on my Ford F-150

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

jx3
04-23-2007, 08:35 PM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/x_BoNeZ_3/welcome.gif

Welcome to "the Boards"!!

Thanks for the link!

HillsdaleHHR
04-23-2007, 09:05 PM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/pats50fan/smilies/welcome4.gif to the site agator!!!

SandyBeach
04-24-2007, 06:31 PM
You can use this site to get a brief summary of TSB's. If you want to the whole bulletin, you have to pay. I have used this to research and file complaints on my Ford F-150

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

Thanks for the link. There's tons of great info on that site. Does your user name imply you're a student at U of F? I'm headed down there next week to pick up my son for the summer. Great town, horrible traffic!

agator
04-24-2007, 06:47 PM
Thanks for the link. There's tons of great info on that site. Does your user name imply you're a student at U of F? I'm headed down there next week to pick up my son for the summer. Great town, horrible traffic!
No not a student, just a fan.

calgaryhhr
05-21-2007, 05:22 PM
Hey y'all, does anyone have a digital copy of the fender paint issue TSB. I had it as a pdf but either deleted it from my computer or have it archived in my work email which I can't search from home and need a copy of it tonight for tomorrow morning.

If someone has something they could send to me that would be great. mgierach@hotmail.com

Thanks very much,
Mike

nfboy
05-21-2007, 08:48 PM
Hey y'all, does anyone have a digital copy of the fender paint issue TSB. I had it as a pdf but either deleted it from my computer or have it archived in my work email which I can't search from home and need a copy of it tonight for tomorrow morning.

If someone has something they could send to me that would be great. mgierach@hotmail.com

Thanks very much,
Mike

Sent.

calgaryhhr
05-21-2007, 09:02 PM
Sent.


Thanks, I got the email. Exactly what I needed. Now when my dealer says he can't find a TSB I can give it to him.

Black Rose
05-23-2007, 10:06 PM
If someone out there has access to the TSBs, could you take a look at TSB

05-08-51-008A - Body - Bumps/Rust Colored Spots in Paint

When I was waxing the HHR on the weekend, I noticed rust colored spots in my paint, both on metal painted areas and plastic.

I'd like to know what the TSB says about this before I talk to the dealership about it.

Also curious about 06-08-51-002 - Body - Paint/Body Damage On Rocker Panels

I already installed running boards myself, would just like to get the fender pads cleaned up and get the little bit of sandblasting on my lower rear doors fixed.

Thanks...Brad

nfboy
05-24-2007, 08:46 PM
If someone out there has access to the TSBs, could you take a look at TSB

05-08-51-008A - Body - Bumps/Rust Colored Spots in Paint

When I was waxing the HHR on the weekend, I noticed rust colored spots in my paint, both on metal painted areas and plastic.

I'd like to know what the TSB says about this before I talk to the dealership about it.

Also curious about 06-08-51-002 - Body - Paint/Body Damage On Rocker Panels

I already installed running boards myself, would just like to get the fender pads cleaned up and get the little bit of sandblasting on my lower rear doors fixed.

Thanks...Brad

Rail dust most likely only just showing now after the winter. I noticed a couple of tiny spots on mine as well but I am planning a clay bar treatment so I am hoping that will do the trick. In the meantime if you find out what the TSB says, I would be curious.

Black Rose
05-24-2007, 08:55 PM
I used the Turtle Wax liquid clay bar on it and they are still there.

I think they are actually "in" the paint.

nfboy
05-24-2007, 09:24 PM
I used the Turtle Wax liquid clay bar on it and they are still there.

I think they are actually "in" the paint.

Rail dust burns into the paint to a degree. I am talking about a real clay bar. I am pretty sure somewhere on the forum a number of members said that a clay bar helps remove the imbedded dust.

HillsdaleHHR
05-24-2007, 09:30 PM
Rail dust burns into the paint to a degree. I am talking about a real clay bar. I am pretty sure somewhere on the forum a number of members said that a clay bar helps remove the imbedded dust.

Absolutely!! Just make sure you keep it lubricated while claying it!! Then be sure to give it a good wax when you're finished!! My yellow Focus shows little spots of orange-like rust (lighter colors show this more easily) and claying it does the trick!

Wackaloon
06-01-2007, 11:13 AM
Ran across this provocative TSB title at Alldata: 04-06-04-054A JAN 07 Engine Controls - Aftermarket Accessory Usage.

Has anyone read the full text? Could someone please post the full text or at least an explanation?

Snoopy
06-01-2007, 04:39 PM
I believe I can post that TSB for you. But, I'll need to do it by a "subversive" method. My resourse site somehow blocks downloading and copying attempts. I think I found a way around it, but I'll need to make it 2 posts....if that's o'k.

Wackaloon
06-01-2007, 07:08 PM
Sure, Snoopy, whatever works:thumb: :nuts: :thumb:

Snoopy
06-01-2007, 11:27 PM
For some reason, I can't seem to do any attachments. I sent a note to administration. Hope you're not in a hurry.

Snoopy
06-03-2007, 02:21 PM
Wackaloon...see if this works for you.....

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/GoodStogie/tsb.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/GoodStogie/tsb2.jpg

Wackaloon
06-05-2007, 12:31 PM
Thanks Snoopy, that's what I needed. I note that GM doesn't reference Moss-Magnussen or the fact that aftermarket parts installation void the warranty ONLY when they can prove that the failure was due to the installation of the aftermarket part and would only affect the warranty for the system/assembly that the aftermarket part is installed on. In other words brake problems could not be disallowed from warranty repairs because you have an IMCO muffler or an air intake installed.

Snoopy
06-05-2007, 01:46 PM
Wackaloon.....no problem..happy to accommodate.

It really comes down to what I stated regarding oil changes, "Whatever you are comfortable with".

But I need to say, you really don't want to get in the middle of the manufacturer and MM Act. It's a $$$$ing nightmare, and it takes a good deal of time to resolve.

I've been involved in 3 instances of this type of activity, representing the Manufacturer. You may "win"......but what are you using for a vehicle when, the car won't run and you are contesting/arguing this position for the next month or 2? What happens when GM provides a court order to seize the car as evidence, to support their position (as the case of aftermarket brake pads and an accident)......been there, done that?

MM Act is a good thing....but don't believe everything people tell you about it. GM is a BIIIIIGGGGG company with many attorneys, on staff, and the ability to hire other top legal firms and experts. Is someone like CGS (not picking on them...just using it as an example), with a 5 mil gross, going to spend hundreds of thousands or millions to say, yeah our product is not at fault? Or how about the "outlaw" air filter. Does it provide the particulate filtering level of the OEM? Who is going to defend you when GM says "dust" accumulation in the MAP caused a failure (again, not criticizing the filter.....giving an example)?

I'm not disputing or taking sides in this subject. Just providing some thoughts. But, I do think people need to be realistic regarding expectations of representation.

But again, you need to do what you are comfortable with (I've done a few "things" that could challenge warranty coverage...in my comfort level)!!!

nortsr
06-10-2007, 08:01 AM
You will probably not be covered with a Salvage Title.

HillsdaleHHR
06-10-2007, 08:03 AM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/pats50fan/smilies/welcome4.gif to the site!!!

jx3
06-10-2007, 04:40 PM
You will probably not be covered with a Salvage Title.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/trip_j/welcomes/welcome-3.gif Had to travel back nearly a whole year to find what you might have been refering to.

Firewatcher
07-24-2007, 06:52 PM
I know that somewhere in our forums there was a post regarding a TSB issued in reference to intermittent lighting issues when using the remote start. For the life of me I have not been able to locate this info, and I am on the way to the dealer for service tomorrow. I'm sure they could look it up, but there is nothing like showing up armed and dangerous. If anyone here has a larger cranium than I do, your help locating this will be much appreciated! :smile:

jx3
07-24-2007, 06:56 PM
I know that somewhere in our forums there was a post regarding a TSB issued in reference to intermittent lighting issues when using the remote start. For the life of me I have not been able to locate this info, and I am on the way to the dealer for service tomorrow. I'm sure they could look it up, but there is nothing like showing up armed and dangerous. If anyone here has a larger cranium than I do, your help locating this will be much appreciated! :smile:

According to the following thread, there has been no cure yet.........

REMOTE STARTER AND PARKING LITES (http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2123)

Firewatcher
07-24-2007, 07:17 PM
I know that I saw a TSB mentioning replacing the BCM or something to correct the problem. Re-flashing didn't help (except with my sex life.....another story for another day ;) )

Black Rose
07-24-2007, 11:55 PM
TSB #: 07-08-47-002
Issued: MAR 07
Description: Park lamps do not illuminate intermittently during a remote vehicle start

Silent Thunder
07-25-2007, 12:02 AM
What am I doing wrong? I clicked on the towing a trailer info and it leads me nowhere but a page I need to log into??

Black Rose
07-25-2007, 12:06 AM
What am I doing wrong? I clicked on the towing a trailer info and it leads me nowhere but a page I need to log into??
Alldata made a change and the info is not free anymore.

gchase
09-05-2007, 08:08 PM
Ran across your TSB listing - however , clicking the link only gets me the main alldata screen. How do I read the TSB - am I missing something ??

courthousedeb
09-05-2007, 08:15 PM
Read the message above^^^ Alldata now charges for this information. In order toread these, you'll need to pay to join or find someone who has access to these that is willing to share them. ;)

SnowHHR
09-11-2007, 09:03 AM
Anyone ever have issues on a 2006 2.2 LT A/T that will not disengage out of PARK? It takes over 2 minutes to try to get gear out of PARK. You have to play with the brake and gear shift release button. What TSB would cover this?

SandyBeach
09-11-2007, 06:10 PM
The only time I have that problem is when I use the remote start and forgot to turn the key after I get in the car.

SIRESMERPH
09-11-2007, 06:28 PM
The only time I have that problem is when I use the remote start and forgot to turn the key after I get in the car.


mostly happens when im in a hurry!:lol:

ssstripes
09-13-2007, 01:50 PM
Hi. I'm having problems getting the dealer to install running boards to protect against the paint chipping issue. Could someone here give me the details on the Technical service buletin (#06-08-51-002) related to this issue please? Aldata wants me to register with them. Can any HHR brother or sister help a guy out?

karen1953
09-13-2007, 01:54 PM
You will still have to pay for them, this is /has been a long issue. Most Dealers will not do anything, It is up to the District Manager and Dealer.
If I remember.
I will try to find out more info on this.

Snoopy
09-13-2007, 01:59 PM
Hi. I'm having problems getting the dealer to install running boards to protect against the paint chipping issue. Could someone here give me the details on the Technical service buletin (#06-08-51-002) related to this issue please? Aldata wants me to register with them. Can any HHR brother or sister help a guy out?

Use the search function here on this forum. I believe portions of it was posted previously.

Sorry to only offer this as assistance. But this issue has been beaten to death and has become so tiresome, that nobody wants to speak about it anymore.:eek:

You can also use the search function to research the discussions as well.


Opps just saw you are from Hamilton. If that is the Hamilton in Canada, you will need the TSB for the Canadian GM, which is a completely different policy. Assist steps might be completely free.

Black Rose
09-13-2007, 04:25 PM
Hi. I'm having problems getting the dealer to install running boards to protect against the paint chipping issue. Could someone here give me the details on the Technical service buletin (#06-08-51-002) related to this issue please? Aldata wants me to register with them. Can any HHR brother or sister help a guy out?
PM me with your e-mail address. I have a copy of the TSB.

Old Lar
09-13-2007, 08:50 PM
It's too bad that you need to pay to see the TSBs. I have the sqeaky seat syndrom and before I'd take the car back to the dealer, I want the TSB in my hand, rather than get a run around from the dealer.

TomsHHR
09-13-2007, 11:58 PM
do a search, most are posted some where here on the site. Getting close to 2 years for some of us..

Silent Thunder
09-17-2007, 09:25 AM
Anyone ever have issues on a 2006 2.2 LT A/T that will not disengage out of PARK? It takes over 2 minutes to try to get gear out of PARK. You have to play with the brake and gear shift release button. What TSB would cover this?

I have to really mash down on the brake hard and then it will come out. I've had at least 10 new cars in the last 4 years. None were like this getting out of park.

Ruffcubnj
09-21-2007, 04:28 PM
If you go to this site, and register ( it's free) they have all the TBS reports for the HHR. http://www.mycarstats.com

Black Rose
09-21-2007, 08:14 PM
If you go to this site, and register ( it's free) they have all the TBS reports for the HHR. http://www.mycarstats.com
All that site gives you is the summary info. For the full reports you still have to buy them from Alldata.

dbarberaz
01-03-2008, 07:08 PM
This is why no one can read anything on TSB's. PLease see the below post

Alldata made a change and the info is not free anymore.


Read the message above^^^ Alldata now charges for this information. In order toread these, you'll need to pay to join or find someone who has access to these that is willing to share them. ;)

harleyron
01-17-2008, 05:19 PM
Does anyone know of HHR's igniting. Mine caught fire and totally burned.

an08HHR
01-17-2008, 09:22 PM
Does anyone know of HHR's igniting. Mine caught fire and totally burned.
Sorry to hear that. This is the first that I have heard of one. Engine compartment or some other area of the fire?

EDIT: really should of started a new thread for this and not put in with the recalls and TSP thread. Maybe a moderator might want to move this? only a suggestion, I've been wrong before.

Mikey
01-30-2008, 01:07 PM
I'm not getting anywhere finding these bulletins, I noticed a post that said you have to pay now... do they show up anywhere else? I'm heading to the dealer with my battery woes and probably leaving my car there, if there's anything else I can get them to do....

jx3
01-30-2008, 01:12 PM
I'm not getting anywhere finding these bulletins, I noticed a post that said you have to pay now... do they show up anywhere else? I'm heading to the dealer with my battery woes and probably leaving my car there, if there's anything else I can get them to do....

There seems to have been a bad batch of batteries installed in some HHRs, mine being one of them. I took mine to a dealer, explained after jump starting it and running for an hour each time, they replaced the battery and I was out within an hour, free under warranty. 6 months later the new battery seems to be doing fine.

Mikey
01-30-2008, 01:21 PM
Great JX, thanks for the heads-up... I'm sure it's a dud, read 11.5V unloaded this morning and wouldn't turn over (grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
I have other issues (remote won't open side doors, passenger air bag) so I'm leaving it with them so just wanted to keep them busy :-) with any of those bulletins if I could find them. I also got a shock with my insurance too, that was an unwelcome surprise, they're telling me it's too new a model and they don't know how it will fare.... what a load of crap, shysters, can't win.

Retrorod
01-31-2008, 01:15 PM
I can get you a copy of any original TSB, just let me know what you are looking for.

pitbull76
01-31-2008, 01:38 PM
Great JX, thanks for the heads-up... I'm sure it's a dud, read 11.5V unloaded this morning and wouldn't turn over (grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
I have other issues (remote won't open side doors, passenger air bag) so I'm leaving it with them so just wanted to keep them busy :-) with any of those bulletins if I could find them. I also got a shock with my insurance too, that was an unwelcome surprise, they're telling me it's too new a model and they don't know how it will fare.... what a load of crap, shysters, can't win.

Get another insurance co. Our insurance is quite reasonable on our HHR(State Farm), and my mother in law just got a welcome suprise when she bought her 08 HHR: It had lower rates than her 5 year old Vibe(she has allstate).

Black Rose
01-31-2008, 02:04 PM
Great JX, thanks for the heads-up... I'm sure it's a dud, read 11.5V unloaded this morning and wouldn't turn over (grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
I have other issues (remote won't open side doors, passenger air bag) so I'm leaving it with them so just wanted to keep them busy :-) with any of those bulletins if I could find them.
What dealer did you take it to?

tooter1
03-09-2008, 01:22 PM
Why can't I get these links to come up? Do I have to get a membership or something?

tooter1
03-12-2008, 07:04 PM
^^ Bump

pg318
03-12-2008, 07:23 PM
Why can't I get these links to come up? Do I have to get a membership or something? Unfortunately yes, the access changed - http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showpost.php?p=118731&postcount=52
Most can be found on this board or elsewhere by searching.

ChevyMgr
03-12-2008, 07:30 PM
Why can't I get these links to come up? Do I have to get a membership or something?

Tell me what are you looking for and I will post, within reason, the TSB.

chadpuska
03-12-2008, 07:32 PM
do they know anything about the noise up front when the car is cold, I thought mine was fixed now its back. I have had in like 5 times for it

ChevyMgr
03-12-2008, 07:52 PM
do they know anything about the noise up front when the car is cold, I thought mine was fixed now its back. I have had in like 5 times for it

The TSB is too long and the system will not let me post it here. besides it has lots of pictures that really need to be seen with the text to understand it. I could email it or if you can talk the administrator into letting PDF files be posted I could post online.

pg318
03-12-2008, 07:56 PM
do they know anything about the noise up front when the car is cold, I thought mine was fixed now its back. I have had in like 5 times for it I haven't seen anything for that one, seems to be common, I'm waiting for someone to claim a permanent fix before I try to get mine fixed. One thing that's worrying me at the moment is that I seem to have developed a timing chain thrash and this is why I'm worried - http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54519&highlight=timing+chain
AIP3252

MODELS:
206-2007 CHEVROLET COBALT, COBALT SS
2006-2007 CHEVROLET HHR
2006-2007 CHEVROLET MALIBU
2007 PONTIAC G5
2006-2007 PONTIAC G6
2006 PONTIAC PURSUIT(CANADA ONLY)
2006-2007 PONTIAC SOLSTICE
2006-2007 SATURN ION REDLINE
2007 SATURN SKY

BUILT BETWEEN 4/1/06 - 11/1/06
WITH ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ENGINES
2.0 ENGINE (VIN P - RPO LSJ)
2.2 ENGINE (VIN D OR F - RPO L61)
2.4 ENGINE (VIN B OR P - RPO LE5)

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

CONDITION/CONCERN:

On rare occasions, a tick or rattle noise may be heard from behind the front cover of the engine and/or pieces of a timing chain roller may be found during an oil change. This may be the result of a timing chain concern.

Non-heat treated timing chain rollers were randomly installed in the assembly line hoppers. He advised that this happened sometime between 4/1/06 - 11/1/06 so it can randomly affect late 2006 - early 2007 models.

RECOMMENDATION/INSTRUCTIONS:

If this concern is experienced, inspect the timing chain for missing or damaged timing chain rollers. If a missing or damaged timing chain roller is found, replace the timing chain and gears using the part numbers currently listed in the parts catalog.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.
Not sure of the provenance of this claim though. I can't find any trace of this anywhere else.

chadpuska
03-12-2008, 08:17 PM
The TSB is too long and the system will not let me post it here. besides it has lots of pictures that really need to be seen with the text to understand it. I could email it or if you can talk the administrator into letting PDF files be posted I could post online.

My email cpuska@cinci.rr.com

pg318
03-12-2008, 08:49 PM
The TSB is too long and the system will not let me post it here. besides it has lots of pictures that really need to be seen with the text to understand it. I could email it or if you can talk the administrator into letting PDF files be posted I could post online. Could you send a copy my way too, please? pg318@yahoo.com.

ChevyMgr
03-12-2008, 08:56 PM
Could you send a copy my way too, please? pg318@yahoo.com.

My email cpuska@cinci.rr.com

Sent and Sent.

chadpuska
03-12-2008, 09:11 PM
ty sir

pg318
03-12-2008, 09:26 PM
Thanks. Quite a smorgasbord of possible issues, I would have guessed at #5, the rear arm bushing, but mine look OK, (just looked, it's only 16F outside), the bushings are centered in the aluminum arms - when did they change from steel stampings? #6 would have been my other guess (but doesn't apply) but I looked at those some time ago, there's no sign of movement or contact.

tooter1
03-12-2008, 09:48 PM
Unfortunately yes, the access changed - http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showpost.php?p=118731&postcount=52
Most can be found on this board or elsewhere by searching.

I think I was on edmunds.com and it wouldn't give you the correct TSB number.

I have the low speed rattle in the column. I called the dealer and they didn't know there was a TSB on this problem.

I have an extended warranty that should cover this but a deductable of $100.

Cost was given to be:
Replacement: about $400
Lube it: about $95

If they just lube it, I'll have to pay right at the deductable so I say replace it, what do you think?

ChevyMgr
03-12-2008, 10:08 PM
I think I was on edmunds.com and it wouldn't give you the correct TSB number.

I have the low speed rattle in the column. I called the dealer and they didn't know there was a TSB on this problem.

I have an extended warranty that should cover this but a deductable of $100.

Cost was given to be:
Replacement: about $400
Lube it: about $95

If they just lube it, I'll have to pay right at the deductable so I say replace it, what do you think?

I guess they are replacing the intermediate shaft or lubing it, which seems odd to me because we have rarely had to do that on an HHR. That is more on the bigger cars and the SUV's. But if they are speaking of the intermediate shaft, lubing will last only so long (4,000-10,000 miles) and then the noise will return again. So it depends on how long you are going to own it. The new shaft should solve the noise for good if that is the problem!

If they think the noise is coming from the column I would lean toward a column replacement, but I am not there to hear it so I can't make that call. I would ask the service advisor to road test it with you after repairs and before paying the $100 to verify it was fixed. If not get him to replace the column at the same time so you can get it all done for one deductable. :wink:

pipshhr
03-12-2008, 11:50 PM
email to pipshhr@gmail.com pretty plezzzzee

ChevyMgr
03-13-2008, 07:33 AM
If anyone else wants to see a TSB just send me a pm with your email and I will send when I can. Let me know the bulletin number, bulletin type or what condition you are having. That way we don't fill this thread up with a lot of email addresses.

Goose
03-20-2008, 06:46 AM
The timing chain noise post has me a little concerned....is anyone else aware of this? My Ectotec sounds like a can of loose bolts after it is warmed up...like leaving a light etc.......is everyone elses Ecotec pretty quiet?


Goose

nabate
03-24-2008, 02:11 PM
How hard would it be for someone with access to the 54 TSB's for our 2006 chevy HHR to post these to a upload site? All we would need here is the link to go to download?

Is this something that is possible? Instead of us asking other members for help?

I'm willing to help out to make everyones life easier...

ChevyMgr
03-24-2008, 02:19 PM
How hard would it be for someone with access to the 54 TSB's for our 2006 chevy HHR to post these to a upload site? All we would need here is the link to go to download?

Is this something that is possible? Instead of us asking other members for help?

I'm willing to help out to make everyones life easier...

Maybe the administrators would supply the space here if I suppled the documents.

Violet_HHR
04-07-2008, 12:30 AM
Maybe the administrators would supply the space here if I suppled the documents.

Surely we can find someone to donate the server space. I'll check with my hubby, maybe we can.

ChevyMgr
04-07-2008, 12:46 PM
Surely we can find someone to donate the server space. I'll check with my hubby, maybe we can.

Vinny and I are going to try and work this out and then have a link to it. One of us will update this if we can do it.

Violet_HHR
04-07-2008, 12:54 PM
Great! But if you have any troubles or end up needing service space, let me know.

Cardwiz428
04-08-2008, 09:38 PM
I got one (#08016) for vehicles without roof-rail airbags. Essentially they have to add cushioning to the headliner near the sun visor area.

Cardwiz428
04-10-2008, 03:09 AM
The very first post said" Recall and TSB post"

nextep1
04-10-2008, 03:29 AM
Hi-
I bought a 2006 Black LT2 when I was home on leave in Feb. Right now, it's sitting in my aunt's garage awaiting my return in early summer. Name: "BlackJack Express" after the missions we run here in country, and my dog "Jack", a 3 year old Black Lab (I killed two birds with one stone!).

Anyway, before I left I noticed the sandblasting on my rear quarters. After consulting the posts here, well, you know.

Sooooo...Does anybody have a COPY of the TSB for the running boards? Of course the local dealerships are giving my aunt the runaround. If you could shoot me a copy, I can send it to my aunt and she can rub the dealers nose in it for me. You know us soldiers are wealthy beyond imagination so the fact that I don't want to buy the yearly membership to the TSB site means I'm just greedy and am saving my money for my huge platinum based, diamond encrusted Chevy bowtie bling when I get home...
By the way, we appreciate your support-
Thanks for the Tanks!-
email: nextep1@yahoo.com

Cokeybill
04-10-2008, 08:43 AM
Just traded in the '06 HHR LT for the HHR SS and I received the recall for the '06. Does anyone know if there will be a recall for the '08s? My recall for the '06 has a deadline for the fix on the last day in April. Kinda tight for time if the '08 is the same.

an08HHR
04-10-2008, 09:14 AM
08's are included unless you have the side curtain airbags. You would get another recall notice for your 08 if it is included. Since they discovered the problem, I'm sure all those made after that date will have the "padding" installed at the factory. I don't have the side curtain bags and have not received a notice as of yet. Mine was built at the beginning of Dec of 07.

CrashMan82
04-10-2008, 09:28 AM
Just traded in the '06 HHR LT for the HHR SS and I received the recall for the '06. Does anyone know if there will be a recall for the '08s? My recall for the '06 has a deadline for the fix on the last day in April. Kinda tight for time if the '08 is the same.

I got mine last night in the mail for my '06... double check that deadline, mine said April 30 2009

I was going to do it when I drop it off for my next oil change in June/July

Snoopy
04-10-2008, 02:58 PM
Cokeybill.....

Not sure if your dealer will do the repair on the SS with an authorization for a different vehicle. I believe the dealer needs to turn in one of the 2 sheets of paper sent to you, to get paid by GM.

I would just sign off and mail the indicated form back to GM, as is suggested if you don't own the vehicle any longer.

Besides, the Dealer may do the recall on your traded vehicle, thus invalidating your authorized paperwork (tracked by VIN).

ChevyMgr
04-10-2008, 03:28 PM
Just traded in the '06 HHR LT for the HHR SS and I received the recall for the '06. Does anyone know if there will be a recall for the '08s? My recall for the '06 has a deadline for the fix on the last day in April. Kinda tight for time if the '08 is the same.

Only in Canada is there a deadline since it is a voluntary recall by GM in Canada. 2008's are involved in the recall. The letter has no bearing on whether the dealer does the recall. We check the GMVIS system on all recalls. If the VIN shows the recall we do it, if doesn't we don't. Here are the VIN break points. Of course only vehicles without side curtain air bags (roof rail) are involved.

Year
Division
Model
From
Through

2006
Chevrolet
HHR
6S500035 to
6S679771

2007
Chevrolet
HHR
7S500033 to
7S641253

2008
Chevrolet
HHR
8S500065 to
8S549108

prod
04-10-2008, 11:57 PM
Ah, thanks for the VINs. I was waiting for a notice, but now I see my '08 isnt affected, im 8S6xxxxx. :cool:

prod
04-11-2008, 11:48 PM
Here is another about stones hitting the a/c condensor..... It is missing the picture showing where to place the shield, it goes in the lower opening

Models: 2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR, LS, LT and Panel Van

Built Prior to August 27, 2007


25829960
Screen, Radiator Grille
1

Does this mean that build dates after aug '07 will have them intalled from the factory?

night31
04-12-2008, 03:12 PM
not necessarily, but if you experience the same problem. I don't see why GM wouldn't help out, but I guess that depends on your dealer. I will have to look to see if the 2008's at work have the guards.

an08HHR
04-16-2008, 06:02 PM
I had noticed a plastic shield on mine which is only about 2 1/2" high right across the bottom of the condenser and figured it was for protection. I had mentioned it is a thread someplace asking if others had it, but got no answers, that was right after I got my HHR. It still doesn't look like it will give much protection, my advise would still be to install a lower grille
08 built in Dec. Also didn't get the head cushioning recall since since it was made after Chevy found there was a problem.
Thanks ChevyMgr for posting the vin on those affected in 08:thumb:

jx3
06-23-2008, 02:14 PM
New source for TSBs............

Enter specific info as to year, engine, etc.........

http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/MaintenanceServlet

Cokeybill
06-24-2008, 08:30 AM
As usual ChevyMgr comes up with the real goods:thumb: Who ya' gonna call...(noy Ghostbusters):lol: Thanks again...you the man:bow:

camaro98z28
07-24-2008, 07:18 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#PIP3932A: Transmission Fluid Leak Slipping Clutch Or Broken Axle Shaft - keywords crack housing shift slip - (Jul 21, 2008)


Subject: Transmission Fluid Leak, Slipping Clutch or Broken Axle Shaft


Models: 2005-2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS

2008 Chevrolet HHR SS

2004-2007 Saturn Ion Redline

Equipped with a 5-Speed Manual Transmission (RPO MU3)




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This PI was superseded to update models and model years. Please discard PIP3932.


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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
Some customers have commented about transmission oil in the clutch housing, slipping clutches or broken axle shafts on this model. An analysis of several of these failures has revealed that the problem is due to excessive front wheel hop during WOT acceleration events.

Excessive wheel hop transmits a torsional shock load into the transmission case. This causes the case to crack and transmission fluid to leak into the clutch housing. See photos below.

3411

3412

3413


Recommendation/Instructions:
Stiffer axle shafts and hardware will change the system harmonics and help prevent wheel hop. These planned changes will not be available until the 2008 model year.

Note: Be advised that failures of this nature are abuse. They are NOT defects in materials or workmanship for which General Motors would be responsible and should not be covered under the terms of the new vehicle warranty. Vehicles with this complaint should be inspected by the dealer and Area Vehicle Manager. A product report should be submitted on each.


Talk about lets make something weak and blame the customer. Amazing

ChevyMgr
08-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Talk about lets make something weak and blame the customer. Amazing

This PI (PIP3932A) was just re-released and now the HHR has been removed from it.

XXL
08-03-2008, 11:52 PM
This PI (PIP3932A) was just re-released and now the HHR has been removed from it.

Is this because "Stiffer axle shafts and hardware will change the system harmonics and help prevent wheel hop. These planned changes will not be available until the 2008 model year" ... has been implemented in the HHR?

ChevyMgr
08-04-2008, 02:18 PM
Is this because "Stiffer axle shafts and hardware will change the system harmonics and help prevent wheel hop. These planned changes will not be available until the 2008 model year" ... has been implemented in the HHR?

Your guess is as good as mine. Someone who works for GM would have to tell us why.

Dreamwalker
08-04-2008, 05:05 PM
I have a 2006 HHR LT with the 2.4 and my check engine light keeps going on and off. The code that I am getting is P0011, has anyone encountered this problem before and what do I do to fix it?

dandhcomputers
08-04-2008, 06:55 PM
This might help

http://www.engine-light-help.com/P0011-check-engine-light.html

Check Engine Light Code P0011

Intake Cam Position Timing Over Advanced

XXL
10-01-2008, 10:56 PM
Some customers may complain that they "still" do not like the normal operational characteristics of the OHB brake system AFTER the EBCM has been reprogrammed. This reprogram does enhance the feel of the OHB system significantly.


GM Engineering is working on developing an additional service repair for vehicles that the customers feel do not provide adequate brake assist after the calibration has been performed per TSB 08-05-22-001.


I love how the wording has been vetted by Legal so as to put the onus on owners for "not liking" the brake feel. Slimy bastages, all of them.

Jeff®
11-06-2008, 07:00 AM
Document ID: 2200465
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So that's why it doesn't work. Because it doesn't :roll:

XXL
12-15-2008, 10:58 AM
#PIC5055: Rear Hatch Will NOT Lock - keywords door fuse gate latch lift liftgate lock pad release RKE touch UBEC unlock - (Dec 11, 2008)

Does anyone have expensive stereo equipment in their HHRs and live near me? I could use the extra money this time of year :eek:

esmarkey
12-15-2008, 12:29 PM
We don't know, where is "over here"?

Goose
01-07-2009, 12:24 PM
Thanks CM! This is awesome :thumb:


I guess my question is how long does a dealer honor the TSB's? I have an 07 but almost 50K miles on it so my 3/36k is long gone.

My main interest is the windnoise from the mirrors..do you think they will still honor the TSB even though i ahve so many miles? I mean the TSB just came out so I would think so.

On the other hand this almost looks like a job I might be able to do myself? Doesn't seem too complicated and looks like I can get the foamy tape also..hmmmm



Advice?




Goose

ChevyMgr
01-07-2009, 01:10 PM
Thanks CM! This is awesome :thumb:


I guess my question is how long does a dealer honor the TSB's? I have an 07 but almost 50K miles on it so my 3/36k is long gone.

My main interest is the windnoise from the mirrors..do you think they will still honor the TSB even though i ahve so many miles? I mean the TSB just came out so I would think so.

On the other hand this almost looks like a job I might be able to do myself? Doesn't seem too complicated and looks like I can get the foamy tape also..hmmmm



Advice?




Goose

A TSB is not a recall, just information for a technician. Therefore it would only be covered under the terms of the warranty be it the 3/36 or the power train warranty, whichever may apply.

Goose
01-07-2009, 01:31 PM
So in others words because I'm at 50K I'm probably SOL. That seems sorta lame since it is an issue they know about but just released the TSB? A lot of 06 owners just got hosed then.


Any chance of me getting the items needed from Kent or do you think they will only sell to a dealer/repair shop etc?



Goose

esmarkey
01-07-2009, 01:34 PM
The one on the camshaft reluctor moving is kind of scary:eek:

Thanks for all of your work CM!

ChevyMgr
01-07-2009, 02:33 PM
Anyone can purchase products from Kent. They are a preferred vendor for GM and that is why they are listed in the TSB. Their site should be under Kent Automotive. These products can be bought elsewhere too.

Nebulous1
01-26-2009, 01:38 PM
#09-05-22-001: Hard Brake Pedal, Extra Effort Needed to Depress Brake Pedal on Cold Start-Up (Add Auxiliary Vacuum Pump) - (Jan 22, 2009)


Subject: Hard Brake Pedal, Extra Effort Needed to Depress Brake Pedal on Cold Start-up (Add Auxiliary Vacuum Pump)


Models: 2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR SS

Built Prior to January 2009 and Equipped with Automatic Transmission


Thanks for posting this, ChevyMgr!

2 questions:
1. Do you know of a location on the web where the full text is available?
2. Is there a separate TSB for models with manual transmissions?

ChevyMgr
01-26-2009, 01:44 PM
Thanks for posting this, ChevyMgr!

2 questions:
1. Do you know of a location on the web where the full text is available?
2. Is there a separate TSB for models with manual transmissions?

The bulletin is for automatics only. PM me for a full copy with your email address.

REDHHRSS
01-26-2009, 01:50 PM
Would also like to get the full document for this. Called my service mgr. to let him know it's out there he had no idea.
Thanks
Pat

IgottaWoody
01-27-2009, 03:42 AM
Good..maybe this can be put to bed now...

bobiroc
01-27-2009, 02:31 PM
#09-05-22-001: Hard Brake Pedal, Extra Effort Needed to Depress Brake Pedal on Cold Start-Up (Add Auxiliary Vacuum Pump) - (Jan 22, 2009)


Subject: Hard Brake Pedal, Extra Effort Needed to Depress Brake Pedal on Cold Start-up (Add Auxiliary Vacuum Pump)


Models: 2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR SS

Built Prior to January 2009 and Equipped with Automatic Transmission



Attention: Proceed with this bulletin ONLY if a customer has brought their vehicle in for this concern. For vehicles in inventory or in the service department for an unrelated customer concern, review Bulletin # 08-05-22-001A to reprogram EBCM built prior to and including VIN Breakpoint 8S653008.



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Condition
Some customers may comment that extra effort may be needed to depress the brake pedal on cold start-up.

Correction
Add an auxiliary vacuum booster pump to the brake system using the procedure listed below.

So this is just another ECBM program? I have mine done twice already and if this is a new one I will bring it back in since this was done months ago. I think the problem is more then a ECBM problem. It is terrible in cold weather and I have to let the car warm up every time before I drive it. That is not necessarily a bad thing in cold weather but if I should be able to start the car and go.

ChevyMgr
01-27-2009, 02:33 PM
So this is just another ECBM program? I have mine done twice already and if this is a new one I will bring it back in since this was done months ago. I think the problem is more then a ECBM problem. It is terrible in cold weather and I have to let the car warm up every time before I drive it. That is not necessarily a bad thing in cold weather but if I should be able to start the car and go.

bob, re-read the last line that starts with the word correction!

bobiroc
01-28-2009, 01:48 PM
bob, re-read the last line that starts with the word correction!

Sorry about that. When I saw ECBM I thought it was another program that they have already done twice to my car. If I call my dealership I can have them refer to this bullitin #09-05-22-001 right? This is not an official recall is it?

ChevyMgr
01-28-2009, 02:24 PM
Sorry about that. When I saw ECBM I thought it was another program that they have already done twice to my car. If I call my dealership I can have them refer to this bullitin #09-05-22-001 right? This is not an official recall is it?

This, as with all TSBs, is not a recall. And the dealership still has to verify the condition before ordering the parts, unless they have on record that they verified it before. Some dealers may just order the parts without seeing the vehicle, but that's up to them. You might try calling the Service Manager.

XXL
01-28-2009, 10:47 PM
Good..maybe this can be put to bed now...

'Cept for the people who really are angling for a newer car, have buyer's remorse, or some kind of payoff for their pain and suffering, etc.

gcsd3742
03-02-2009, 02:17 PM
I wonder if I put my gauge back in and take it to the dealer they fix it then I can sale it....?

esmarkey
03-02-2009, 02:44 PM
I wonder if I put my gauge back in and take it to the dealer they fix it then I can sale it....?

To sail it, you would have to launch it into the water first :smile:

gcsd3742
03-02-2009, 02:48 PM
wont matter anyways I baked it in the oven anyways to try and take it apart and i slightly melted it. It's a piece of crap I never have liked Autometer anyways. I guess I shoulda explained before, I done trashed it after I got my Aeroforce gauge anyways. Eric how's your's working? I love mine. There was a guy at one time that was looking for one in Canada he said his was imperial and wanted a US model gauge.....

ChevyMgr
03-02-2009, 02:50 PM
I wonder if I put my gauge back in and take it to the dealer they fix it then I can sale it....?

I don't know for sure what the programming does, but I think it programs the BCM software, such as voltage to the gauge, not the gauge it self. So I would think that your gauge should still be good. :thumb:

esmarkey
03-20-2009, 10:55 AM
I'm surprised that they put out a TSB on this?
I'm sure it is a cost savings measure, and they really are useless....

dbfruth
03-20-2009, 11:12 AM
I'm surprised that they put out a TSB on this?
I'm sure it is a cost savings measure, and they really are useless....

Are you talking about the cup holder or just the liner? I am confused because both are worthless. :lol:

urbexHHR
03-20-2009, 11:36 AM
Talk about useless! Like dbfruth said! My friends fight over who gets to put one of their drinks in it, and then the other has to hold theirs. Speaking of useless, did I mention the middle seat in the back? What size person other than an infant can fit in that? Seats 5? Yeah right! If we go on a roadtrip with more than 4 people, guess I'll have to take the Lumina. (Although that starts back with cupholders....)

DrLoch
04-02-2009, 05:21 PM
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Service Information
Document ID: 2257735
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#08-07-29-001D: EI08046 - Manual Transmission Grinds in Either Third or Fourth Gear When Clutch is Fully Disengaged (Replace 3rd and 4th Gear Sleeve Hub Assembly, Speed Gear Assemblies and Shift Fork) - (Mar 26, 2009)


Subject: EI08046 - Manual Transmission Grinds in Either Third or Fourth Gear When Clutch is Fully Disengaged (Replace 3rd and 4th Gear Sleeve Hub Assembly, Speed Gear Assemblies, and Shift Fork)


Models: 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt, HHR

2008 Pontiac G5

Equipped with Manual Transmission (RPO M86)

Prior to the Serial Numbers Shown Below
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This bulletin is being revised to update service procedure and include additional service parts. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 08-07-29-001C (Section 07- Transmissions)


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Models
Transmission P/N Transmission Serial Number

Cobalt XFE 24248018 61 YEH 08058387

Cobalt, G5 (STD) 24241747 61 YED 08083169

HHR 24241746 61 YEC 08062188


Condition
Some customers may comment on a grinding noise in third or fourth gear when the clutch is fully disengaged.

Cause
Based on feedback provided by dealer technicians, engineering was able to determine the manual transmission grinding in 3rd or 4th gear. It is possible to correct the condition by replacing the 3rd and 4th Gear Sleeve Hub Assembly, Speed Gear Assemblies, and Shift Fork

Correction

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Check the Transmission Serial Number label to determine if the transmission is built prior to the chart above. The Transmission Serial Number label is located on the back side of the transmission between the halfshafts. If the transmission is built prior to the chart above, then replace the 3rd and 4th Gear Sleeve Hub Assembly, Speed Gear Assemblies, and Shift Fork.

Parts Information
Part Number Description

89060051 HUB ASM, 3RD & 4TH GR SYN

93321261 GEAR ASM, 3RD

93321267 GEAR ASM, 4TH

93368559 FORK ASM, 3RD & 4TH SHFT

19207672 RING, BLOCKER (Qty 2)

My better half's 2009 HHR grinds going into 3rd and 4th, the dealer says it's normal. I will have her take this with her on the return trip. I also think the throwout bearing is bad. I can feel it vibrating when I push in on the clutch.

ChevyMgr,

How can I get a copy of this, or direct the dealer to this information?

shaginwgn
04-09-2009, 03:52 PM
Wonder if that TSB above came about from one of our members and his mystery goo?

ChevyMgr
04-09-2009, 04:26 PM
Wonder if that TSB above came about from one of our members and his mystery goo?

In a way it did. I was looking up something else on GMs site and came across the TSB. I also remember a user wanting this information so I posted it if others need it. It's an old TSB with upated information.

Cokeybill
04-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Is there any one better than the ChevyMgr for the info that he posts for all of us.:thumb:

ChevyMgr
04-09-2009, 04:48 PM
Is there any one better than the ChevyMgr for the info that he posts for all of us.:thumb:

Thanks Bill just here to help.

millerrdjr
04-20-2009, 06:13 PM
Document ID: 2206771
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#PIP4520: Low Boost / Power And/Or DTC P0299 Or P0101 - keywords actuator boost CAC charge control cooler driveability DTC ECM engine gas lnf low maf MIL reduced reducedpwmde SES wastegate - (Nov 4, 2008)


Subject: Low Boost/Power and/or DTC P0299 or P0101


Models: 2008-2009 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Only

2008-2009 Chevrolet HHR SS Only

2007-2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP

2007-2009 Saturn Sky Redline

With Engine RPO LNF Only
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
A technician may encounter a vehicle with a low boost/power condition and/or DTC P0299 and or P0101 setting. This may be the result of a cracked or broken fitting at the turbocharger assembly.

Recommendation/Instructions:
It has been determined that the nipple for the turbocharger wastegate actuator may be damaged causing this condition. If this concern is noted please inspect the area on the underside of the turbo compressor housing for the wastegate actuator solenoid valve. The nipple (see CALLOUT #1) may have been damaged causing a loss of boost pressure. It may be necessary to remove the charge air duct for a closer inspection. See eSI "Turbocharger Wastegate Actuator Replacement" for solenoid replacement procedure.


3979


This solenoid is available separate from the turbocharger and should be replaced as a sub assembly. Do not replace the turbocharger assembly.
Brad,
Have you encountered a case for this TSB?
My dealer just ordered a replacement wastegate actuator.

ChevyMgr
04-20-2009, 07:15 PM
Brad,
Have you encountered a case for this TSB?
My dealer just ordered a replacement wastegate actuator.

Not yet. We have never had any SS in with any drivability problem. I see them come in, but never for that reason.

Of course most HHRs we sell are non SS. I bet we haven't sold 15 or 20 of the SS models since their first release. I see more SS cobalts with drivability concerns, than any other SS models.

ChevyMgr
04-25-2009, 03:52 PM
All TSB's and Recalls have been move to here:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23231

Snoopy
04-25-2009, 03:57 PM
That is a GREAT IDEA !!! Especially with not allowing comments. Keeps the research nice and clean.

ChevyMgr
04-25-2009, 04:11 PM
That is a GREAT IDEA !!! Especially with not allowing comments. Keeps the research nice and clean.

This is what happens when I have idle time and all honey do's are done. :D

XXL
05-21-2009, 12:33 AM
This is what happens when I have idol time

???

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Cajun
05-21-2009, 01:16 AM
This is what happens when I have idol time and all honey do's are done. :D
Been with the same lady for 34 years...

Never done....LOL

Cajun / Al

ChevyMgr
05-21-2009, 07:27 AM
This is what happens when I have idol time

???

http://themicrocosm.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/american-idol-judges.jpg

LMAO and see what happens to me when I misspell.

jmm121783
01-30-2012, 01:29 AM
so correct me if I am wrong, but if I have an issue with my car, that is addressed by a TSB than the dealer is obligated to fix the problem at their cost correct??

I am just going through your consolidated post of all the TSBs and have found a few that definitely address problems I am having with my 2008 47k mile HHR SS.

thanks again!

843de
01-30-2012, 01:35 AM
so correct me if I am wrong, but if I have an issue with my car, that is addressed by a TSB than the dealer is obligated to fix the problem at their cost correct??

I'm afraid not, there is a difference between a TSB and a recall.....

Technical Service Bulletins, or TSBs, are recommended procedures for repairing vehicles. Not to be confused with recalls, a TSB is issued by a vehicle manufacturer when there are several occurrences of an unanticipated problem. TSBs can range from vehicle-specific to covering entire product lines and break down the specified repair into a step-by-step process. While sometimes written by engineers employed by OEM's, the majority are authored by the first automotive technician to come up with a repair procedure. Because certain problems may have more than one cause or there are sometimes more than one way to fix a problem, it's somewhat common for there to be more than one TSB for the same problem.

One major difference between a recall and a TSB in the automotive industry is that a recall usually evolves out of safety issues at the behest of an organization like the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). The ensuing recall maintenance/repair work is usually done at no charge to the car owner, regardless of the car's warranty status. Dealers are usually under no mandate to call in cars for which there are TSBs to do the related repairs. Nor is there an obligation to do the TSB repairs for free or at reduced charges to the owner.

Some benefits of an automotive TSB are that by widely circulating among dealership service departments and mechanics an engineering-level description and solution for a problem common to type, year, make or model of car, a well-managed TSB process can save technicians troubleshooting time, provide organized, itemized repair procedures, and standardize the repair process. This can also enhance the quality of the maintenance since it tends to be supported by repair history and high-level diagnostic procedure decisions.

jmm121783
01-30-2012, 03:05 PM
damn so I would still have to pay for them no matter what?

ChevyMgr
01-30-2012, 03:08 PM
damn so I would still have to pay for them no matter what?

Correct.