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dan-d
05-16-2006, 02:34 AM
I'm sure many of you have already seen these pix posted by Mike from SoCalHHR's, but just the same I thought I'd post them myself since it is my HHR.

As you know SoCalHHR's has come out with an air bag kit specifically designed for the HHR. Let me tell you, it's an awsome kit. All of the components are first rate, they didn't skimp here. And the digital control is fantastic. Installation took my son and myself just over 7 hours, and this included stopping to read the basic instructions, jotting down notes specific to the HHR's installation and taking pictures. In my opinion, anyone having average mechanical skill can duplicate or better our installation time. For those of you with a lesser degree of mechanical skill but are handy with tools should be able to do this in a weekend with someone to help. One of the best things about this kit is all of it has been pre-wired making this a real plug-N-play kit.

When first installed the bags were quite a bit stiffer than the Goldline springs I had on the HHR, and that caused me some concern. But after allowing the bags some time to break in, the ride is getting sweeter all the time. Now it feels very similar to the springs (based on how much air you have in the bags). The 9 level adjustable shocks are real nice and as you play with the adjustments you will really notice a difference. For mine 60lb front at #2 setting on the struts and 45lb rear at #4 setting on the shocks gives me just the stance I like and a nice comfortable ride. Even the ride at speed bump height is quite reasonable, but if you bump the air up to around 100+lb be ready for your back teeth to rattle loose...LOL, and when you drop her down to park she'll let you know with an interesting jolt. My kit uses 1/2" air line, and because of this it moves air quickly, when you hit up or down it's almost instant, and it has a programmable ride height so returning it back to your preset is just a touch on a button.

Thanks again to Mike for letting Sub Sub be the test bed for this great product. :bow:

In the grass
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid206/pc6602c36fd2350ebe424bd425eb5e49b/eefd8d41.jpg

Parked
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid205/pde10a7b8ca6847f8174d984e6ac5a326/ef189eea.jpg

Speed bumps don't scare me
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid205/pbb0f4d5acd74611699a39bfaaaeaea54/ef189ee7.jpg

Ride height
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid205/pb5a402f4e0b772bc75b63225554002e8/ef189ee9.jpg

jx3
05-16-2006, 06:16 AM
sweet!!!!!

Skatetheglobe
05-16-2006, 06:52 AM
errr.Being poor is such a bummer..Looking good Dan.

fenris222
05-16-2006, 09:13 AM
WOW! Now that's something to think about, looks great and your comments are impressive! Very nice!

ng8650
05-16-2006, 09:56 AM
Looking good Dan, I'm vey envious right now! :mad:

Ng

dbarberaz
05-16-2006, 10:06 AM
Looks good Dan :thumb:

txsman2930
05-16-2006, 10:08 AM
Not a fan of the bags, but glad you're enjoying them.

Tokyo
05-16-2006, 10:13 AM
I knew I missed something speacial by not going up to Mims on Saturday... Congrats, Dan!

Dark Dreamz
05-16-2006, 10:23 AM
I am def gonna get a set of bags it looks SWEET congrats.

dan-d
05-16-2006, 10:42 AM
Thanks for your comments (positive and negative). My original plans didn't include bagging the HHR and I was really happy with the Goldlines. But my driveway is really steep and I would scrape the mud flaps and front air dam coming onto or leaving it, so when Mike and I discussed the bags it just seemed like a way to kill a few birds with one stone so I jumped on it. Looking back I have absolutely no regrets. Now I get to ride at a height I like while at the same time clearing road obsticles such as speed bumps. The ride is nice and cornering is mush flatter on the bags than springs. And when some young kid in a ricer car pulls up next to me at a light and rev's his obnoxiously loud car, I just simply pop up the nose of the HHR and grin at him. Works every time...why...I haven't a clue. Some young sport compact guys told me it would quiet them down and it does. Something about a nose up attitude has something to do with respect.....don't ask me. I'm too old to understand.
:D :thumb:

booksmitty
05-16-2006, 10:45 AM
WOW :thumb:

black&tan
05-16-2006, 02:19 PM
hey how much were the bags. I have black lt hhr also yours looks great

dan-d
05-16-2006, 02:56 PM
hey how much were the bags. I have black lt hhr also yours looks great

Since mine is the prototype of this kit, it would be unethical for me to disclose any of the terms between myself and the supplier. Mike from SoCalHHR's is who I got my kit through. My suggestion would be to contact him for a price. Mike is a great guy and I'm sure he'll treat you right. -Dan

SoCalHHR
05-16-2006, 03:05 PM
Since we don't have the product page completed yet (it will be a separate page and very detailed!), I can let everyone know the kit sells for $2600 + shipping - and includes the digital controller. :thumb:

Even though it's not yet listed on our site, the kit is completed and ready.

You can order it at any time...

cowboybornlate
05-16-2006, 04:05 PM
It looks great!! Now if I just had the $2600 + I'd be ok! lol The budget is wayyyy tight here so I've not even been able to make some of the minor low dollar mods that I'd like to. As soon as I get the old homestead sold though I plan to do a few...

CBL

Navyflyer11
05-16-2006, 04:50 PM
I have a question!:confused: What happens to your alignment when you raise and lower it?

SoCalHHR
05-16-2006, 05:26 PM
Well, obviously it changes. However, the "slammed" position is only for parking, and the "raised" position would only be used for driving over speed bumps (say 3-5mph). The ride height is set for 2" below stock, so it is very similar to the Gold-Lines. Once the kit is installed, you would have it aligned at the "ride height" position.

Hope it helps,

Skatetheglobe
05-16-2006, 05:47 PM
wow $2600..I think that could have been better spent on a turbo kit..escpecially since it was already lowered..I know I know I read the part about the driveway but damn thats alot of money..

Navyflyer11
05-16-2006, 06:29 PM
Well, obviously it changes. However, the "slammed" position is only for parking, and the "raised" position would only be used for driving over speed bumps (say 3-5mph). The ride height is set for 2" below stock, so it is very similar to the Gold-Lines. Once the kit is installed, you would have it aligned at the "ride height" position.

Hope it helps,

Thanks Mike, that would have been my guess but, I wanted an official ruling.:thumb:

SoCalHHR
05-16-2006, 06:51 PM
wow $2600..I think that could have been better spent on a turbo kit..escpecially since it was already lowered..I know I know I read the part about the driveway but damn thats alot of money..

If you research air suspension systems much, you'll see that most companies make you spend that much without giving you a digital controller. Keep in mind this includes adjustable dampening air struts in front, and 9-way adjustable dampening rear shocks. Our system also includes the digital controller most companies make you spend an additional $1400 on.

Baggin isn't cheap...but it's cool! :thumb:

dan-d
05-16-2006, 07:52 PM
wow $2600..I think that could have been better spent on a turbo kit..escpecially since it was already lowered..I know I know I read the part about the driveway but damn thats alot of money..

It does seem like a lot of money, but I've seen folks spend almost that much on a set of springs with some real nice adjustable struts and shocks.

dan-d
05-16-2006, 08:00 PM
I have a question!:confused: What happens to your alignment when you raise and lower it?

After you install this kit just as with springs you will need an alignment. The ride height generally speaking is somewhere around 2" below stock. But with this kit you can actually program your ride height to where you like it best, although I wouldn't go much below 2". Some folks might want just 1" lower than stock. I like a pretty level stance and I find that having about 60lb up front and 45lb at the rear leaves me with a slight rake and just about the same drop as that of the Goldlines. But regardless of where you decide you want your ride height, you need to set it, program it in, and have it aligned. One more thing I like about this kit. The front struts already have the camber adjustment provision built into them, it actually allows for quite a lot of adjustment. -Dan

ng8650
05-16-2006, 09:04 PM
Sounds like a good deal as long as you can afford it on your budget. It has a lot of bang for the buck and it looks pretty good. Now how about those install pixs?

Ng

SoCalHHR
05-16-2006, 09:19 PM
wow $2600..I think that could have been better spent on a turbo kit..escpecially since it was already lowered..I know I know I read the part about the driveway but damn thats alot of money..

Oh, I almost forgot; $2600 will not get you a turbo for the HHR, a turbo kit runs $3999...and that is substantially more! :red:

Skatetheglobe
05-17-2006, 12:25 AM
Oh, I almost forgot; $2600 will not get you a turbo for the HHR, a turbo kit runs $3999...and that is substantially more! :red:

Dude! Its still alot of money

ng8650
05-17-2006, 12:43 AM
Dude! Its still alot of money

That is a lot of money...:D

Dark Dreamz
05-17-2006, 07:17 AM
It may be alot of money but well worth it. The computer control alone is EXTRA on most other bag systems trust me I have been looking at them 4 a while. Not for my HHR but for a few buddys of mine. Lets agree it is alot of money but if you can afford it do it. Just think how many of you have lowered a car any car with out air bags. You try to pull into some place that has a bump in front and what happens your lower bumper gets all chipped and sometimes broken. Trust me I know I lowered my old Ford Lightning and I replaced the lower bumper 3 times in 1 summer at $300.00 a pop. With bags all you do is hit a button and BAM!!!! problem solved. And no I dont work for Mike at socal lol nor was I paid for this lol. Its not in EVERY ones budget. It will even take me a bit to get it other finacial obligations lol sorry socal but soon lol

fallenSaint
05-20-2006, 12:41 PM
Definately a very sharp look on the HHR, might have to start saving up to make it my first mod.

UncivilRacer
09-16-2006, 02:02 PM
Ok i have a question I might have missed in the Thread. I see you are still on Factory Wheels. I am going to be getting the Air Ride. Either this set-up or the set-up EasyStreet has come out with. But I am wondering what is the Max size wheel you think you could fit in the wheel with it body dropped? I have 20s right now and I think I might have to drop to 19s or so. Please let me know what you think before I look to much into this.

SoCalHHR
09-16-2006, 02:50 PM
Ok i have a question I might have missed in the Thread. I see you are still on Factory Wheels. I am going to be getting the Air Ride. Either this set-up or the set-up EasyStreet has come out with. But I am wondering what is the Max size wheel you think you could fit in the wheel with it body dropped? I have 20s right now and I think I might have to drop to 19s or so. Please let me know what you think before I look to much into this.

Width and offset are the big problem here - not diameter. You will need to drop to a 7.5' wide wheel with a +42 or _45mm offset. that will most likely limit you to 17's. As most 18 and larger wheels are only available in 8 and 8.5 width (in the HHR bolt pattern). there is always the option of finding the wheels you want (diameter and offset), then buying "blanks" and having the bolt pattern drilled. Many of the larger wheel shops carry blanks.

Hope it helps,

UncivilRacer
09-16-2006, 03:11 PM
Yea that is what I had to do on my xB. Cost a little more but in the end looked great.So a 19 in a 7.5 width and decent offset will get it still dropped. Not looking to ride with it on the drop. Just for when i am at shows.

O6ChevyHHR
09-16-2006, 04:22 PM
i am going with 20 by 7.5 american racing casinos they should work fine!

UncivilRacer
09-17-2006, 01:54 PM
i am going with 20 by 7.5 american racing casinos they should work fine!

I have that on there now. But just wondering if i can slam it on the air or if imma have to do some working in the wheel wells like i did on my xB.

dan-d
09-17-2006, 11:58 PM
I am going to be getting the Air Ride. Either this set-up or the set-up EasyStreet has come out with.

This setup IS the set-up that EasyStreet has come out with.

O6ChevyHHR
09-18-2006, 08:53 AM
any pics of your american racing 20s

UncivilRacer
09-18-2006, 04:00 PM
This setup IS the set-up that EasyStreet has come out with.

Then I am wondering why the one EasyStreet is selling is much cheaper?

dan-d
09-18-2006, 04:07 PM
Then I am wondering why the one EasyStreet is selling is much cheaper?

The EasyStreet is much cheaper than what kit?

SoCalHHR
09-19-2006, 01:50 PM
Then I am wondering why the one EasyStreet is selling is much cheaper?

The Easy street kit you are looking at does not have our Digital Controller System and custom air tank for the HHR. Add up all the parts (front system + rear system + special tank + air controller system), and you will see - it gets expensive very quickly!

Hope it helps,

dan-d
09-19-2006, 02:23 PM
The Easy street kit you are looking at does not have our Digital Controller System and custom air tank for the HHR. Add up all the parts (front system + rear system + special tank + air controller system), and you will see - it gets expensive very quickly!

Hope it helps,

Yep, all bought seperately it will add up to 4k or so

UncivilRacer
09-20-2006, 11:50 AM
The Easy street kit you are looking at does not have our Digital Controller System and custom air tank for the HHR. Add up all the parts (front system + rear system + special tank + air controller system), and you will see - it gets expensive very quickly!

Hope it helps,

Yea after Dan got with me to let me know all the extras realized the differences. Dan = Good Sales Rep! I expecially like the Digital part. Thanks for getting with me Dan and just got in the good news about what we talked about, should be here in 2-3 weeks. Man I was trying to get them to send sooner!