Which do you take!
ME:HHR!

:confused: It seems like a had choice to make. :roll: :roll:

Nah....I LOVE MY HHR Its #:one:

on an HHR site...man i wonder who will win...heh
HHR all the way duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I have always hated the PT Cruiser, especialy the convertibles. :mad: My mom on the other hand loves them. It a good thing thing to know that I don't have the same taste in cars as a 50 year old woman.

I think most people on this site (HHR.net) will vote HHR...

I dunno...I'm going to vote for the P..........GOTCHA! :D

-Mike

In the words of the great California political leader Arnold Swartzenegar. PT's are for the "GIRLY-MAN" :D

Well the HHR is more of a real man's car. Its got more mussle look then a PT.

From what see there are PT owners trading in their PT for an HHR, have never heard of a HHR owner trading for a PT. Let the market place decide the winner PT has been around for a while, lets see where we are in a like time span.

The PT is more of a Girls Car
The HHR is more of a Guys Car.

Well In the moth of Oct GMC Reported that 17% of HHR Buy's traded in Non-GMC Car's. So thats got to mean something. I wonder how many of them were PT's

The HHR can't stand in with a turbo equipped Cruiser. Just too much of a HP difference. That being said, I would rather come in second with my HHR than first in a Cruiser!

Or just put your own turbo on the HHR and kick the PT GTs a**. :D I cant wait for turbo systems to come along for the HHR. :beer:

I seen a PT in the snow yesterday trying to drive and he was slideing all over the road.

There are alot more parts, and upgrades for the PT. Then again its been out for a few years. Give the HHR a few years and it would be a tied.

I just don't see the point in modding an HHR to be fast. Doesn't make any sense to me. Slap a turbo on it and full exhaust, intake, etc. and still get waxed by bone stock Camaro's, Mustangs, Vettes, and a lot of other things. I'm gonna mod mine but not to be fast, I'll pick up another platform better suited for that when the speed bug bites again.

The element of surprise. I have heard of race preped Ecotecs pushing 1000 hp. I know thats not a daily driver or anything but it proves you can push high hp though our engine. Anything I drive I want to be fast. If I get smoked by a mustang, camaro, or vette cool. But image the feeling of kicking ones a** with a little 4 cylinder HHR. I would feel like I have the hugest set of balls in the world.

I just don't see the point in modding an HHR to be fast. Doesn't make any sense to me. Slap a turbo on it and full exhaust, intake, etc. and still get waxed by bone stock Camaro's, Mustangs, Vettes, and a lot of other things. I'm gonna mod mine but not to be fast, I'll pick up another platform better suited for that when the speed bug bites again.

So if your not going to mod for speed, then what else? Exterior/Interior/ and sound?

The element of surprise. I have heard of race preped Ecotecs pushing 1000 hp. I know thats not a daily driver or anything but it proves you can push high hp though our engine. Anything I drive I want to be fast. If I get smoked by a mustang, camaro, or vette cool. But image the feeling of kicking oneS a** with a little 4 cylinder HHR. I would feel like I have the hugest set of balls in the world.

You won't ever beat one of those unless they are extremely poorly driven. The bottom end of the ecotec can't take much more than 300hp tops. Thats not even gonna get with a bus length of the above mentioned cars, in stock form, in a race. Those raced prepped ecotecs are nothing like what any production car comes with, it's comparing apples to oranges.

For me all of the above and speed.

You won't ever beat one of those unless they are extremely poorly driven. The bottom end of the ecotec can't take much more than 300hp tops. Thats not even gonna get with a bus length of the above mentioned cars, in stock form, in a race. Those raced prepped ecotecs are nothing like what any production car comes with, it's comparing apples to oranges.

:( I know but a man can dream! At least I stand a chance again Japanese imports.

So if your not going to mod for speed, then what else? Exterior/Interior/ and sound?

looks, thats it. I don't feel the HHR is a race car, it's a crusier. If I wanted to go fast I would have bought the 02 Z06 I was looking at. After owning 2 highly modded cars I'm tired of the up keep, I'd rather have a $300.00 a month payment than a $300.00 dollar a month repair bill for something I modded all to hell. First time at the track with my Camaro on the bottle, with drag radials, I blew the rear end up. Cost me almost a grand to put it all back together, that was in parts alone I did the work myself. Since I'm a tech at a dealer, now if I happen to break something, they'll pay me to fix it. It just cracks me up to see these guys out at the track with there liitle civics that have so much money dumped into them, are gutted, and they run high 13's, I did that stock. 13's just aren't fast to me, and there's no way in hell anybody is getting an HHR into say the deep 12's high 11's without spending more money than the car is even worth. To me it's not worth it.

:( I know but a man can dream! At least I stand a chance again Japanese imports.

even then the new Civic SI traps approx 96 mph in the 1/4 and runs a mid to low 14, the HHR isn't even close to that. The new Nissan GTR is rumored to have close to 450hp, Japan is starting to produce some power out of there new cars.

Can I at least pretend that my HHR will be fast some day. :p: LOL! :D I am not looking to have a Vette killer but the HHR is way underpowered and I would like at least 250 hp out of it.

Can I at least pretend that my HHR will be fast some day. :p: LOL! :D I am not looking to have a Vette killer but the HHR is way underpowered and I would like at least 250 hp out of it.

I'm not trying to bash your dream :D . Hell who knows I may even end up building mine to be a mean street machine, but for right now I don't see the point.

I know! I was just busting balls. :D :beer:

The element of surprise. But image the feeling of kicking ones a** with a little 4 cylinder HHR. I would feel like I have the hugest set of balls in the world.


That's the best. Many years ago, I had a Suzuki Sidekick(named SUZI). Moded the four cylinder w/ alum head gasket, mid-range cam, dual Mikuni racing carbs, and 2 in exhuast. Hooked it to centerforce 1 racing clutch!
:eek: Recorded times in the 13s. Was able to take Mustangs and Cameros in the 1/8 mi, only losing to Stangs by less than two lengths in full 1/4 mile.

Hopefully we can do the same with our HHRs. :thumb: I'm sure it will be posible once the aftermarkets start releasing performance mods. ;)

Hopefully we can do the same with our HHRs. :thumb: I'm sure it will be posible once the aftermarkets start releasing performance mods. ;)


That was many years ago. I've been forced to outgrow the NEED FOR SPEED. :( I'm just going to keep to appearance mods.

Well your no fun......just kidding! I bought my HHR as a family vehicle but I cant help my urge for speed. As long as I obey all traffic laws and speed limits while my children are in the vehicle I'm all good.

Did anyone watch overhauling last night. They hooked up a dodge mag for a women who has two young babies and Katzskins redid the baby seats to match the interior of the car. Plus they gave the engine Turbo. Now that station wagon can really beat the old school ones

i just traded in 2003 touring pt for LS
LIKE THE BETTER GAS MILEAGE
the dash readout rocks
engine runs smoother
driver seat great with adjustments
and i like the look better

Hi congrats and welcome to Chevyhhr.net

I just traded in my '02 PT "Limited" (w/70,600mi) for a 2LT fully loaded.

Paid almost exactly same $$$ sticker for the HHR as I did for the PT in 2002... and got a lot more vehicle for the money!! (even 4ys later w/inflation)

Final straw with my PT was when the front wheel fell off while I was driving...luckily I was only going 25 mph at the time!

I read on a PT forum that was a problem partially due to Chrysler's defective (cheap/crappy) alloy wheel material. Should have been warrantee (recall item) except I was over the 3/36.

I never for a second liked the look or wanted a PT but when I saw the HHR I had to have it.I don't care to much about performance either aslong as I can beat one of those ugly ass scion shoe boxes.Can I?

I don't care to much about performance either aslong as I can beat one of those ugly ass scion shoe boxes.Can I?

I did. ;) I have the 2.4 not the 2.2 and I think the other guy was a bad driver ALSO. Even with the 2.2 I think you could still do it. The xB only has 103 Horsepower and I think the engine is a 1.5 liter if I'm not mistaken. :roll:

I will admit when I first seen the PT a few years ago, I did want one. However I ended up with a Ford Focus. After having some ign. problems and a few accidents I knew I was going to get ride of it. I never would of thought it would of been the HHR. The only reason why I bought it was becasue I had to bring in my dad' 2000 Chevy Malibu in for service and I seen the HHR in Blue and Orange and said wow that car is awsome, so that same very day I said good bye ford focus and Hello HHR.

I did. ;) I have the 2.4 not the 2.2 and I think the other guy was a bad driver ALSO. Even with the 2.2 I think you could still do it. The xB only has 103 Horsepower and I think the engine is a 1.5 liter if I'm not mistaken. :roll:
ok thats good to hear.

Yeah,yeah... I admit I got caught up in the PT craze a few years back. (seemed like the thing to do at the time) Haha. As time wore on it quickly lost it's appeal... along with it's value/performance & reliabilty.

Hmmm... Now as far as Scions are concerned... I'd rather drive a Yugo! :eek:

Did you do any mod's to your PT during the craze

I had thought about a Cruiser a couple of years ago, but read in Car & Driver magazine about the new HHR Chevrolet as building, and then saw it during the Detroit Autoshow. Well, I was hooked. So I waited until the HHR was introduced to the market. It's a marriage made in Heaven.

SIHHR... Oh my... all the mods I did to my old PT were staggering... not to mention expensive! (Ram-Air hood, "smoothie" rear bumper, air box, dual exhausts, grill, lowered & beefed-up suspension, 18" wheels... yada,yada,yada!)

Basically I stopped just short of adding a Supercharger or aftermarket Turbo. (had to draw the $$$ line somewhere)

Looking back in retrospect, I was trying to take my "daily driver" and turn it into a custom "show car"... a concept which would've worked much better if I didn't live in Northeast Ohio. Yuk, snow & salt on top of crappy pot-holed roads!!! :mad:

Looking back in retrospect, I was trying to take my "daily driver" and turn it into a custom "show car"... a concept which would've worked much better if I didn't live in Northeast Ohio. Yuk, snow & salt on top of crappy pot-holed roads!!! :mad:

It's hard to resist the urge. :roll:

If you're interested... I do have a link off of my personal website that has pics of my old PT and all the mods I did to it. (back in the day)

My website is: www.jondarling.com Go the "links" page & it should be towards the bottom of that page. I'll probably leave that link there for while (has some good memories) but I'm going to start one for my HHR as soon as I get some good/new pics! :)

No doubt, it is hard to resist the urge to mod!

So far, I'm very happy with my HHR as it sits, however in the future I can see myself adding a thing or two...here and there. (I'm being mellow on the mods this time around)

Right now I'm getting plenty of compliments & comments (parking lot discussions) about the/my HHR... just the way Chevy has designed it. :cool:

...and "For those about to Mod... We salute You!" :bow: (modified AC/DC)

(I'm being mellow on the mods this time around)

Same here. I don't think the HHR is going to get much in the way of performance mods now that I have a go fast fun car ('72 350 Chevelle Malibu) that I need to sink all of my money into to restoring. I still can't help but mod my daily driver HHR. :roll: The HHR will be all about the looks. :thumb: The Malibu will be all about the performance. ;)

I've accualy seen a drag race between these two. Lets just say, the PT Loser lived up to its name/

Same here. I don't think the HHR is going to get much in the way of performance mods now that I have a go fast fun car ('72 350 Chevelle Malibu) that I need to sink all of my money into to restoring. I still can't help but mod my daily driver HHR. :roll: The HHR will be all about the looks. :thumb: The Malibu will be all about the performance. ;)

CH - I see that you have a Chevelle Malibu as well.
Outstanding! Please check out www.chevelles.com for information on restoring your '72. Also, if you are looking for parts I have a ton left over from my 7.5 year restoration - just send me a PM. Oh yea, wanna race? :thumb:

Mark

CH - I see that you have a Chevelle Malibu as well.
Outstanding! Please check out www.chevelles.com for information on restoring your '72. Also, if you are looking for parts I have a ton left over from my 7.5 year restoration - just send me a PM. Oh yea, wanna race? :thumb:

Mark

Thanks! :bow: :beer: I have a feeling my restoration is going to take quite a while also. The car needs a lot of work (I'll post pics when I get it to my house) and I want to do most of it myself. I know enough people to help me out with the stuff that I don't know how to do so I think it can be done. I have never completely restored a car, just worked on them. :)

Let me know if you need any help.
I'll do my best to find pics, parts, whatever.

Oh yea, I'm actually selling a 396/402 Big block if you are interested.

Let me know if you need any help.
I'll do my best to find pics, parts, whatever.

Oh yea, I'm actually selling a 396/402 Big block if you are interested.

Awesome, thank you! :beer: I think I am going to stay with a small block 350 in it but it will be a long while before I get to the engine. :confused:

If you're going to spend the bucks on a rebuild, why stay with a mouse?

It will cost you close to the same to upgrade to a rat, plus in time you'll say "Yea, it's pretty fast, but I want to go faster"

As of tomorrow, I'll be stuffing a 454 HO into mine, and I hope that the 425 HP / 500 ft.lbs toque will satisfy me for a while. Who knows, in 2 years I might be boring it out to a 468 or stroking it to a 496...hell..can probably get away with a .100 overbore and get a 505...hmmm....

If you're going to spend the bucks on a rebuild, why stay with a mouse?

It will cost you close to the same to upgrade to a rat, plus in time you'll say "Yea, it's pretty fast, but I want to go faster"

As of tomorrow, I'll be stuffing a 454 HO into mine, and I hope that the 425 HP / 500 ft.lbs toque will satisfy me for a while. Who knows, in 2 years I might be boring it out to a 468 or stroking it to a 496...hell..can probably get away with a .100 overbore and get a 505...hmmm....

I was thinking of the weight I would save. But for the size of the vehicle I should stop thinking about weight and concentrate on power. :confused: It is very tempting to stuff a big block in there when you look at the amount of room you have in the engine bay with the current 350. It would be kind of cool to do a twin turbo 350 though. There is definitely enough room. :confused:

Turbo implementations on SBC or BBC are extremely costly.
Bang for the buck, I'd go with a big block that was available in your year. 396, 402, or 454. More torque, less money than a smallblock and a hell of a lot cheaper than a turbo. Also, turbocharging on a carburated application is tricky - its been done a zillion times in the past of course, but for the average shadetree mechanic, I wouldn't touch it.

Turbo implementations on SBC or BBC are extremely costly.
Bang for the buck, I'd go with a big block that was available in your year. 396, 402, or 454. More torque, less money than a smallblock and a hell of a lot cheaper than a turbo. Also, turbocharging on a carburated application is tricky - its been done a zillion times in the past of course, but for the average shadetree mechanic, I wouldn't touch it.

Thanks for the advise. I have so many ideas bouncing around in my head right now because I haven't started to do anything to it yet. I thought about switching to a modern fuel injected engine also but think I want to stay carburated just because of how much easier it is to work on.

Hey Cap, you should throw this in there..
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1950-1959/1955-Buick-Roadmaster-Jay-Leno-572-Crate-Motor-1920x1440.jpg

:red: Alright, I'm convinced I need a big block now. :thumb: :beer:

Now that's one BIG pic!! :eek: Just curious... how much $$$ for that engine?

Now that's one BIG pic!! :eek: Just curious... how much $$$ for that engine?

The ZZ572 runs about $8000 for the short block and runs between $11,500 to $14,000 for a turn key although I have seen them as high $18,000. It's worth it though. If you get the ZZ572/720R it puts out 720 HP and 685 Ft. Lbs. of torque. :eek: The ZZ572/720R is the race prepped version though so it doesn't run on pump gas. ;)

Anyone watch overhaulin last night. GM gave Jay Leno a prototype 350 i believe that pushed out over 1000. And he put it in a toranado. It would burn out (and i mean burn out from 0 all the way to 100. and would burn out startin from 50 to 100

Anyone watch overhaulin last night. GM gave Jay Leno a prototype 350 i believe that pushed out over 1000. And he put it in a toranado. It would burn out (and i mean burn out from 0 all the way to 100. and would burn out startin from 50 to 100
Yep, I saw that one. One bad-a$$ car!!

The ZZ572 runs about $8000 for the short block and runs between $11,500 to $14,000 for a turn key although I have seen them as high $18,000. It's worth it though. If you get the ZZ572/720R it puts out 720 HP and 685 Ft. Lbs. of torque. :eek: The ZZ572/720R is the race prepped version though so it doesn't run on pump gas. ;)

Thanks CH for the info :D I'll keep it in mind when I hit the Lotto. ;)

HHR all the way to hell with the pt losers.

:p: I recently traded in my 2003 PT Cruiser GT Turbo (bought it new) for a new 2.4 LT HHR and can say that the GT was really fast - would burn rubber easily any time.

The HHR is no match for the GT Turbo, but if the HHR adds a turbo next year, this will all change. In spite of so much more power with the PT, the HHR more than makes up for it in looks and ride. Do I have any regrets in trading the PT for an HHR? Three words....NO..NO..NO.

If I want to really go fast, I have an Infiniti FX45 with a big V8 that really runs. The FX is a great car, but I like my HHR driver just as well. That being said, if they come up with a turbo HHR next year, I will probably be trading up.

Fritz 45

I have always hated the PT Cruiser, especialy the convertibles. :mad: My mom on the other hand loves them. It a good thing thing to know that I don't have the same taste in cars as a 50 year old woman.
Yes you do :rof: :rof: :rof:

You've even got the same taste in car color as this 50+ year old woman
:laughabov


How does it feel ?? :poke:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

all we need is an aftermarket turbo for the HHR. When that day comes I'll be the first one in line to get it installed.

Got $4500 laying around? We can do this.

I do...just dont want to use my ride as the test car...lol.

Because of the retro aspect of the PT I thought about buying one, but there just wasn't any fire brought by the PT, so I just didn't ever get around to it. My son called to me one evening and said "look what Chevy is bringing out, it's an HHR, I took one look and the fire that the PT never lit in my soul started to rage and I told my wife that I was buying one...well she got sick of hearing me talk about it and called the dealership and had my beautiful black 1LT waiting...thanks Baby

Yesterday, I just got home from the grocery store and this is what i found.........

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/1/9/6/blackpt.JPG

This was not my doing, I just happened to find it this way!:nuts:

Let this be a lesson about keeping your ride clean (reminder to self....wash car today).

I thought graffiti like that only existed in truck stop bathrooms! :eek:

I thought graffiti like that only existed in truck stop bathrooms! :eek:

Isn't that where all PTs should be!:lol:

Yes you do :rof: :rof:

You've even got the same taste in car color as this 50+ year old woman
:laughabov
How does it feel ?? :poke:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
:laughabov :rof: :laughabov
You go girl. :thumb:

Gotta watch what you say there Howdy. :p: I'm another of those 50+ ladies that has the same taste in cars. :lol: And I even drive a color you wouln't buy. :lol: Strike 3...and we're gonna take you out. :lol:

def the HHR...