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GDZHHR
06-01-2006, 09:55 PM
Anyone know of a company that makes RWL tires that'll fit 16s?

P215/55R16

I looked around some and couldn't find any this size.

Redlines would be nice too. Checked Coker, but they don't make them any larger than 15's.:(

scaleguy
06-01-2006, 10:32 PM
Check Diamondback Classic Radials, they might have what you are looking for. I will let you know if I find anything else.

Lee3333
06-01-2006, 10:58 PM
They used to sell special white paint (applied like chalk) to make raised black letters into white letters.

cj krause
06-03-2006, 08:48 AM
I have checked around and no one has anything but those lil expensive pens.
i did check Diamondback Classic Radials and here is his note;
"I have seen an ad for some white paint to paint white letters in Hot Rodder Magazine but question how well it will work. We have not found any white paint that will block out the antioxidants in the black rubber in order to remain white."

laters, time to put amps in

GDZHHR
06-03-2006, 11:11 PM
I have checked around and no one has anything but those lil expensive pens.
i did check Diamondback Classic Radials and here is his note;
"I have seen an ad for some white paint to paint white letters in Hot Rodder Magazine but question how well it will work. We have not found any white paint that will block out the antioxidants in the black rubber in order to remain white."

laters, time to put amps in

That's what I'm running into, no tires...paint sucks.

Though the bad attempt at the paint shows me how good it could look.

I'll just keep trying.

What about a slightly different tire size? (right now P216/55R16)

I am lowering and would have to consider that but are there other options for size that would work on my 16s without causing issues after lowering?

GDZHHR
06-12-2006, 02:10 PM
This is the look I'm going for.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/8/9/2/P6100045.JPG

I love the way it makes the tires stand out. This was done with a tire paint made by Sharpie.

One thing I noticed though after we made the runs at Bristol was that on the passenger side the top half of the paint was gone. Also noticed that that side of the engine compartment was MUCH hotter.

Any ideas what caused this?:confused:

goldy
06-12-2006, 04:38 PM
I'm really starting to like that victory red color!:thumb:

GDZHHR
06-12-2006, 04:46 PM
I'm really starting to like that victory red color!:thumb:

Thanks, I like your sig reference. Though I prefer 3:15.

Anyway, are ya gonna be at the event in Peoria in August? It should be a lot of fun!

Holmes Hot Ride
06-12-2006, 05:37 PM
Thanks, I like your sig reference. Though I prefer 3:15.

Anyway, are ya gonna be at the event in Peoria in August? It should be a lot of fun!
What happend to your old sig with scripture reffrences? By the way I like the white letter tires.

GDZHHR
06-12-2006, 05:56 PM
What happend to your old sig with scripture reffrences? By the way I like the white letter tires.

Wanted a cleaner looking sig so I went with the scrolling userbars.

Thanks for the comment on the tires. It just convinces me even more that I want the RWL tires. The paint is ok from a distance but too much of a PITA to keep doing over and over.

Still trying to figure out why the outside half of the letters on the passenger side came off.:confused:

courthousedeb
06-12-2006, 05:57 PM
These are the exact size you are looking for
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/details.pl?ID=froogle&typ=R-109252&Country=US

Here's a post I started a while back. They are 16" tires but are just a tad larger but should still work...plus they are NASCAR Goodyear Eagle #1 tires

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1927

captain howdy
06-12-2006, 06:08 PM
Still trying to figure out why the outside half of the letters on the passenger side came off.:confused:

My guess would be taking the banked turns at that race track making all of your vehicles weight shift to your drive wheel. With all of those left hand turns it makes sense. Your tires heat and pressure probably had a factor in it also.

GDZHHR
06-12-2006, 06:11 PM
My guess would be taking the banked turns at that race track making all of your vehicles weight shift to your drive wheel. With all of those left hand turns it makes sense. Your tires heat and pressure probably had a factor in it also.

Thay makes sense, thanks Capt.

GDZHHR
06-12-2006, 06:15 PM
These are the exact size you are looking for
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/details.pl?ID=froogle&typ=R-109252&Country=US

Here's a post I started a while back. They are 16" tires but are just a tad larger but should still work...plus they are NASCAR Goodyear Eagle #1 tires

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1927

Thanks again Deb!

We've had this conversation before. Look in the other thread (http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2374) and you'll see I'm already looking at the NASCARs.

On the others, you're right they are the right size but don't make the same mistake me and others are making. The company may show RWL in the photo but all that means is that one size of that model has them, not all.

The BSW in the tire specs means black sidewall. Thanks for trying though.

The closest I've been able to find is the Eagle #1 NASCAR I listed in the other thread.

O6ChevyHHR
06-12-2006, 07:30 PM
let you know if i find ant whilr letter tires for you.

TNHHR1
06-12-2006, 09:06 PM
let you know if i find ant whilr letter tires for you.

:laughabov Does this really have to continue???:laughabov

courthousedeb
06-12-2006, 09:44 PM
Thanks again Deb!

We've had this conversation before. Look in the other thread (http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2374) and you'll see I'm already looking at the NASCARs.

On the others, you're right they are the right size but don't make the same mistake me and others are making. The company may show RWL in the photo but all that means is that one size of that model has them, not all.

The BSW in the tire specs means black sidewall. Thanks for trying though.

The closest I've been able to find is the Eagle #1 NASCAR I listed in the other thread.
Well &%*$&%*, the friggin description says RWL...but now I see what you're talking about. Kinda misleading in my opinion. Learning more and more every day about car stuff. Looks like we're looking at same tires...me being a NASCAR fan, I love the logo. They would have been a real scream at Bristol.

Good luck in your search. If I run across anything else, I'll be happy to let you know. You wouldn't think it would be so hard to find RWL in 16" would ya? They come in 14 & 15 and 17 & up. What gives with the 16's? :confused:

GDZHHR
06-12-2006, 09:55 PM
let you know if i find ant whilr letter tires for you.

ant whilr?:wtf:

GDZHHR
06-12-2006, 09:58 PM
Well &%*$&%*, the friggin description says RWL...but now I see what you're talking about. Kinda misleading in my opinion. Learning more and more every day about car stuff. Looks like we're looking at same tires...me being a NASCAR fan, I love the logo. They would have been a real scream at Bristol.

Good luck in your search. If I run across anything else, I'll be happy to let you know. You wouldn't think it would be so hard to find RWL in 16" would ya? They come in 14 & 15 and 17 & up. What gives with the 16's? :confused:

It really bites......you see a pic and it has the RWL but the you check the sizes and ALL except the 16s are RWL. That or the 16's are truck tires which don't do me any good either!
:mad: :censored: :cussing:

SoCalHHR
06-12-2006, 10:07 PM
How about raised black letter tires? :D

joesblackhhr
06-12-2006, 11:07 PM
How about raised black letter tires? :D

or better yet tires painted the same color as our rides talk about monochrome to the max.........

SindyDix
06-12-2006, 11:09 PM
or better yet tires painted the same color as our rides talk about monochrome to the max.........

Theres a Visine for that! :nuts: :lol:

joesblackhhr
06-13-2006, 08:35 AM
:laughabov :rof: :rof: :laughabov

Believe me Sindy , was I was a younger guy I had some mornings that needed Visine AND Asprins

courthousedeb
08-02-2006, 09:54 PM
Since we're into this RWL tire discussion again...let's use this thread instead. :smile:

courthousedeb
08-02-2006, 09:58 PM
General - XP 2000 II 215/60 R16 (http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/details.pl?ID=froogle&typ=R-113623&Country=US) - Special Order

1) H & T SPEED RATED 1) RATED FOR SPEEDS UP TO 130 (H) MPH AND 118 MPH (T) 2) M & S RATED 2) ALL-SEASON PERFORMANCE 3) CIRCUMFERENTIAL GROOVES & TRACTION RIDGES 3) GOOD TRACTION IN WET AND SNOW CONDITIONS 4) COMPUTER-DESIGNED TREAD & PROFILE 4) EVEN TREADWEAR, GOOD HANDLING AND QUIET COMFORTABLE RIDE 5) PERFORMANCE STYLING 5) AVAILABLE IN SOLID RAISED WHITE LETTER OR SERRATED BLACK LETTER

With us only only $ 52.80

BlackHHR
08-02-2006, 09:59 PM
nice find Deb!!!
Good price.

courthousedeb
08-02-2006, 10:05 PM
nice find Deb!!!
Good price.
Thanks...I'll keep searching...I want RWL tires too...but can't really justify taking of stock tires and spending another $500+ for the NASCAR tires I want. So...in the meantime, since others want RWL's and don't want or like the NASCAR tires, I'll see what else I can find. :smile:

Besides...all I'm doing right now is watching Unique Whips make over Tony Stewart's hearse. :lol:

SoCalHHR
08-02-2006, 10:10 PM
General - XP 2000 II 215/60 R16 (http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/details.pl?ID=froogle&typ=R-113623&Country=US) - Special Order

1) H & T SPEED RATED 1) RATED FOR SPEEDS UP TO 130 (H) MPH AND 118 MPH (T) 2) M & S RATED 2) ALL-SEASON PERFORMANCE 3) CIRCUMFERENTIAL GROOVES & TRACTION RIDGES 3) GOOD TRACTION IN WET AND SNOW CONDITIONS 4) COMPUTER-DESIGNED TREAD & PROFILE 4) EVEN TREADWEAR, GOOD HANDLING AND QUIET COMFORTABLE RIDE 5) PERFORMANCE STYLING 5) AVAILABLE IN SOLID RAISED WHITE LETTER OR SERRATED BLACK LETTER

With us only only $ 52.80

When I put those in my shopping cart, it shows as:

General XP 2000 II 215/60 R16 94T BLT

That "BLT" stands for "Black Serrated Letters" - they are not RWL's in that size.

GDZHHR
08-02-2006, 10:15 PM
Thanks...I'll keep searching...I want RWL tires too...but can't really justify taking of stock tires and spending another $500+ for the NASCAR tires I want. So...in the meantime, since others want RWL's and don't want or like the NASCAR tires, I'll see what else I can find. :smile:

Besides...all I'm doing right now is watching Unique Whips make over Tony Stewart's hearse. :lol:

Deb, those are nice and I saw them too, but in the size you linked to it is a BLT, black letter. the description is for that style in general. Some of them are available in RWL, just not 16's. and I hate to give you bad news, it bummedme out, but they've stopped making the NASCAR tires. Officailly they have been on back order for 8 months. My tire guy says that my only hope on those is to find a shop that still has some in stock.

I've checked close to 20 different brands and none of them have RWL that are in 16's that will fit the HHR. 15's & 17's are all over the place.

I've basically given up and I practally live on the net. Good luck and please let me know if you find any!

DaJoker
08-02-2006, 11:30 PM
According to this: http://www.bfgoodrichtires.info/index.php?a=tires.technical_details&name_copy=passenger.42
BF Goodrich makes a 16 RWL in the P225/50R16 size which may work. (look at 4th line down)

BlackHHR
08-02-2006, 11:34 PM
Your right those should work. And BF's are very good tires.

GDZHHR
08-02-2006, 11:37 PM
According to this: http://www.bfgoodrichtires.info/index.php?a=tires.technical_details&name_copy=passenger.42
BF Goodrich makes a 16 RWL in the P225/50R16 size which may work. (look at 4th line down)

You are correct sir! I am now crossing my fingers.

BlackHHR
08-02-2006, 11:38 PM
You are correct sir! I am now crossing my fingers.

Go for it.
You can do it.




So do you have RWL's yet?LOL

DaJoker
08-02-2006, 11:39 PM
Btw, it's their Radial T/A line of tires.
And PRICEY (http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=143932&InfoID=4278&ShowLarge=True) even at "discount"

GDZHHR
08-02-2006, 11:45 PM
Only problem is that the site you found those on is their Asia and the Pacific area site. Those aren't available in the states.

U.S. site (http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/bfgapp/index.jsp)

Thanks for trying.:(

SoCalHHR
08-03-2006, 01:17 AM
And the RWL search continues...

cj krause
08-03-2006, 02:22 AM
i have emailed over 25 tire mfg companies and large tire dealers to see if anyone carries a RWL tire

emails posted when received back

Sonny Martin
08-03-2006, 10:04 AM
I know that the Harley dealers have paint pens for tires in white and orange. That orange might look cool on an orange HHR. Sonny Martin

SBHHR
08-03-2006, 10:22 AM
I think some white walls would be cool:D

courthousedeb
08-03-2006, 10:33 AM
I know that the Harley dealers have paint pens for tires in white and orange. That orange might look cool on an orange HHR. Sonny Martin
We've tried that and it comes off. :( It also didn't look too good from close up either. Thanks for the suggestion though.

We are a determined group and will not give up until we find what we want. :lol:

cj krause
08-03-2006, 10:39 AM
I think some white walls would be cool:D
whitewalls are easier to find than RWL

cj krause
08-03-2006, 11:26 AM
these are just outlined white letters but they are H rated and in stock
i checked shipping and it was $22 a piece for my zip code

you might can find a dealer that sells Yokohama tires in your area and get them

on this site you have to scroll down the list, the link for the imbedded page wont work alone
this is a start
http://www.tires-easy.com/start.html

Yokohama
G900 215/60 R16 94H OWL

G035 215/60 R16 94H OWL

this one may come in black and white lettering on the sides. you may have to call and ask
RWL though
AVENGER GT 215/55 R16 91T BSW, M+S marking

courthousedeb
08-03-2006, 11:36 AM
I've got correspondence out to the largest wheel & tire store in the Denver Metro area. Gonna send this guy on a mission for us. :lol:

cj krause
08-03-2006, 01:11 PM
all these from www.tires-easy.com
http://www.tires-easy.com/start.html

DYNAPRO AS RH03 215/70 R16 99S OWL
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Hankook/DYNAPROASRH03.jpg

ZIEX S/TZ04 215/70 R16 99S OWL, M+S marking
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Falken/ZiexSTZ04.jpg

TIGER PAW TOURING 215/70 R16 99S ORWL
i think that orwl means outlined red or white lettering
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Uniroyal/TIGERPAWTOURING.jpg

Geolandar H/T-S G051 215/70 R16 99S OWL
no pic

ContiTrac SUV 215/70 R16 99S OWL runout
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Continental/tracsuv1.jpg

Long Trail T/A 215/70 R16 99T ROWL

Laredo Cross Country 215/70 R16 99S ROWL
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Uniroyal/LaredoCrossCountry.jpg

Rover AT 215/70 R16 99S OWL
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Dunlop/RoverAT.jpg

Fortera SilentArmor 215/70 R16 99T OWL
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Goodyear/ForteraSilentArmor.jpg

cj krause
08-03-2006, 01:16 PM
i got a response from Coker tire
they dont have RWL's but they have a wide white wall 16 and probably a 17 too

Thank you for your recent inquiry into Coker Tire. We regret to say that we do not carry that tire size nor anything close in a RWL. The closest we offer is P215/65r16 in a Wide White Wall American Classic tire. We apologize that we could not help you any further but thank you for visiting Coker Tire. Have a nice day !

Sincerely,


Jeff ( J.R. ) Millican
Internet Sales
Ext. 259
jrm@coker.com

GDZHHR
08-03-2006, 02:51 PM
all these from www.tires-easy.com (http://www.tires-easy.com)
http://www.tires-easy.com/start.html

DYNAPRO AS RH03 215/70 R16 99S OWL
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Hankook/DYNAPROASRH03.jpg

ZIEX S/TZ04 215/70 R16 99S OWL, M+S marking
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Falken/ZiexSTZ04.jpg

TIGER PAW TOURING 215/70 R16 99S ORWL
i think that orwl means outlined red or white lettering
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Uniroyal/TIGERPAWTOURING.jpg

Geolandar H/T-S G051 215/70 R16 99S OWL
no pic

ContiTrac SUV 215/70 R16 99S OWL runout
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Continental/tracsuv1.jpg

Long Trail T/A 215/70 R16 99T ROWL

Laredo Cross Country 215/70 R16 99S ROWL
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Uniroyal/LaredoCrossCountry.jpg

Rover AT 215/70 R16 99S OWL
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Dunlop/RoverAT.jpg

Fortera SilentArmor 215/70 R16 99T OWL
http://www.tyre-pictures.com/Goodyear/ForteraSilentArmor.jpg

I may be wrong but aren't 70's too big? Mine has been lowered too. And those all look like truck/suv tires.

I really do appreciate all the help!

cj krause
08-03-2006, 03:55 PM
mine isnt lowered
lowered makes it that much harder
for those of us w/o being lowered there is tons of room for a taller tire

i just talked w Carolyn from Cooper Tires at the HDQ. amazing she called me
they only make a Cobra GT in a 295/55/R16 and that is one wide tire.

she also told me that they have not made a Cobra GT in 215/55/R16 since before 2000

if you find one you need to check the DOT # on the tire to see how old it is and here is how you know

digits 1-2 ---- where it is made
digits 3-4 ---- Size of the tire
digits 5-7 ---- model of the tire
digits 8-9 ---- week of year tire was made
digits 10 is for tires 99 and earlier--- so if it is a 6 it is 96 and 9 for 99
digits 10-11 for 2000 and up 00 for 2000, 01 for 2001 and so on

thought you might like to know this next time you buy your tires

BlackHHR
08-03-2006, 06:32 PM
I stopped at some tire shops and no one has anything that will fit. CJ is right!
I asked the shop that I bought my coopers from and they said that they do not make them anymore. I got the last 4 old stock tires. I'll keep searching here and see what I can find.

GDZHHR
08-03-2006, 07:01 PM
Thanks for the effort!!