View Full Version : HHR SS.....Lets get to the track!!!!!


08redhhrss
06-23-2009, 05:51 PM
Hey tuned HHR SS guys! Any tune, stage kit, or even stock. Lets get to the track and give some results! If you haven't been to the track yet, then get there. I've seen all kinds of dyno numbers and stuff, but in my mind it's how it's put to the pavement that counts! For people that are not tuned yet, lets give them a gauge on what they're buying! I know that it is a lot driver, weather, and everything else, but it will give them an idea! I'm personally looking at different options, but I haven't seen enough results. I'll start.....
Hahn tuned otherwise stock. 08 HHR SS 5-speed 14.1 at 103 mph street tires.

CarlsSS
06-23-2009, 08:15 PM
I agree, and if you have never raced at a track it is well worth it! It will put a grin on your face like you never would believe! :D

I have not had my SS to the track yet, but plan to soon. I am a little gun-shy after my shifter blowout this past weekend, but I think that was all my fault. (And maybe a little too much coffee!) :lol: I'd like to get a couple of my buddies down to the Great Lakes Dragway in Union Grove, WI soon. It is not too far from Racine where I work. I tested my '93 Eldorado with a 4.6L-32V Northstar there and ran a 14.7 at 94mph. Not too bad for a big ol Caddy! :nuts:

TomsHHR
06-23-2009, 08:39 PM
Just remember the Trifecta Tune are going to be real hot soon..

08redhhrss
06-23-2009, 09:25 PM
Just remember the Trifecta Tune are going to be real hot soon..

Yes they will, and especially if we get to see some results from the track (hint hint)

damronjr
06-23-2009, 09:37 PM
My best time in the 1/8mi track with my auto 09 HHR SS was 10.029 stock, and is now 9.415 with the GMPP Stage 1 kit and Dejon BOV spring. My best 60ft was 2.404, and is now 2.287. My best mph in the 1/8th was about 70mph before the tune and spring, and is now 77.99. All of these could be greatly improved with a good set of drag radials, and these are all with the auto trans, no nifty no-lift-shift or hard MT shifts!

06AmethystHHR
06-23-2009, 09:56 PM
My best time in the 1/8mi track with my auto 09 HHR SS was 10.029 stock, and is now 9.415 with the GMPP Stage 1 kit and Dejon BOV spring. My best 60ft was 2.404, and is now 2.287. My best mph in the 1/8th was about 70mph before the tune and spring, and is now 77.99. All of these could be greatly improved with a good set of drag radials, and these are all with the auto trans, no nifty no-lift-shift or hard MT shifts!

i was hoping the stage 1 auto had a little more in it than that. your 60' times are pretty high though, if you can get those down that will make a nice difference.

08redhhrss
06-23-2009, 10:10 PM
This is a good start, the weather is nice, if you haven't been to the track yet, hit it up! No excuses, summer is here.

IgottaWoody
06-24-2009, 12:10 AM
I'm 15 min from the local track here..its on the schedule

damronjr
06-24-2009, 07:42 PM
i was hoping the stage 1 auto had a little more in it than that. your 60' times are pretty high though, if you can get those down that will make a nice difference.

Yeah, my biggest problem is off the line, which is why I mentioned the drag radials or slicks. Off the line this thing spins through 2nd! Makes getting anywhere fast a hard thing to do! Once you get off the line faster, you will get through the gears faster, and all times will go down. Should have bought the drag radials when I had the chance! :red:

06AmethystHHR
06-24-2009, 08:17 PM
yeah i forgot how bad fwd launches once you have a little power after i got used to driving the srt6.

it makes it fun though, look at it as a challenge to keep it under control.

damronjr
06-24-2009, 09:06 PM
yeah i forgot how bad fwd launches once you have a little power after i got used to driving the srt6.

it makes it fun though, look at it as a challenge to keep it under control.

During 1 race I actually managed to catch straight off the line, but then lost traction after I got out of the sticky!:eek:

damronjr
06-28-2009, 01:06 PM
New best time, went to a real track yesterday and made a few passes, best 1/8th ET was 9.22@78mph.

CarlsSS
06-28-2009, 01:25 PM
You know, I always wanted to ask... Why is there some tracks that are only 1/8th mile? I have never seen one, but it seems like they are becoming more popular. Is it safety regulations or just space constaints that these tracks seem to be appearing more? :confused:

damronjr
06-29-2009, 12:10 AM
You know, I always wanted to ask... Why is there some tracks that are only 1/8th mile? I have never seen one, but it seems like they are becoming more popular. Is it safety regulations or just space constaints that these tracks seem to be appearing more? :confused:

Here in the San Diego that is all you can find. The closest 1/4mi is up near LA. There was an 1/4mi track closer to here, but from what I understand it was shut down a while back. I think with the 1/4mi there are a lot more safety requirements than with the 1/8mi.

IgottaWoody
06-29-2009, 01:23 AM
Probably space limitations....Hard to find a half mile of land that can handle noise and traffic anymore..and thats close enough to allow people to attend.. Most of the big tracks have been around for years.

08redhhrss
06-29-2009, 10:08 PM
Bump for some times......

08HHR SS
06-30-2009, 02:50 AM
Mine is an auto with the stage 1 upgrade, the fastest times were 14.22@99mph and 14.28@101.48mph

MrGTO
07-06-2009, 08:14 AM
Best Run, Bone Stock 5sp: 14.7 @ 94 mph.

If you choose to drag race, avoid wheel hop:

http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23231&page=9

Geoff
07-07-2009, 01:22 PM
i went to the track just to see what it would do.

ran a 9.7@78mph with a crappy 2.5 60 foot

06AmethystHHR
07-07-2009, 01:52 PM
New best time, went to a real track yesterday and made a few passes, best 1/8th ET was 9.22@78mph.


Not too shabby, good job!

bugflipper
07-09-2009, 03:21 PM
60 Foot 1.74
330 Foot 5.04
1/8 Mile ET 7.92
1/8 Mile MPH 85.85
1000 Foot 10.41
1/4 Mile ET 12.55
1/4 Mile MPH 105.67
Aluminum flywheel, Hahn piping, 3" mandrel bent straight pipe from manifold, Green filter, Stage 1, Hankook 255/40/18 tires and methanol injection.

Jaxon
07-09-2009, 04:15 PM
Wow thats really good. Does the meth injection really help that much? I have thought of adding it but I figured the stock intercooler works almost well enough.

damronjr
07-09-2009, 05:21 PM
60 Foot 1.74
330 Foot 5.04
1/8 Mile ET 7.92
1/8 Mile MPH 85.85
1000 Foot 10.41
1/4 Mile ET 12.55
1/4 Mile MPH 105.67
Aluminum flywheel, Hahn piping, 3" mandrel bent straight pipe from manifold, Green filter, Stage 1, Hankook 255/40/18 tires and methanol injection.

Wow, that's a lot faster than my time, I expected a MT to be faster, but not THAT much faster, especially just with piping and exhaust.

Jaxon
07-09-2009, 05:53 PM
A 1.74 in the 60' doesn't really seem likely have you ran that quick of a time more than once? Really, it seems like that would've been a mid-low 13 second run if it wasn't for the really fast 60'. I don't think there have been that many FWD cars with that mod list running nearly as fast in the 60.

08redhhrss
07-10-2009, 04:12 PM
A 1.74 in the 60' doesn't really seem likely have you ran that quick of a time more than once? Really, it seems like that would've been a mid-low 13 second run if it wasn't for the really fast 60'. I don't think there have been that many FWD cars with that mod list running nearly as fast in the 60.

Yeah...I think we need to see some time slips on that one! That's haulin' ass if it's true. I only know of one guy in the low 13's with his, and as far as I know nobody else has seen 13's with a time slip proof. This was an HHR SS right? I'm not calling anyone a liar, but time slips tell a lot.

bugflipper
07-11-2009, 09:00 AM
Meth is good for about 25 hp on the 2.0.
Not really worried about personal oppinion. It is your perogative to believe or disbelieve. Do the same mods and see what you get. Or not, no differense in the grand scheme.:smile:
Blessings

06AmethystHHR
07-11-2009, 01:57 PM
Meth is good for about 25 hp on the 2.0.
Not really worried about personal oppinion. It is your perogative to believe or disbelieve. Do the same mods and see what you get. Or not, no differense in the grand scheme.:smile:
Blessings

what track was it at? post up your timeslip, i know most people would be excited to show that off.

damronjr
07-11-2009, 02:38 PM
Meth is good for about 25 hp on the 2.0.
Not really worried about personal oppinion. It is your perogative to believe or disbelieve. Do the same mods and see what you get. Or not, no differense in the grand scheme.:smile:
Blessings

Where does your meth inject? When I had mine water/meth injection on my Vibe it was strictly for cooling due to my using a CAI with my supercharger which is not recommended and the spray nozzle was installed into the CAI before the throttle body.

bugflipper
07-12-2009, 09:23 AM
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=39
Mine is in the throttle body where the pcv valve attached. I am running a single 100mil/min jet. The reason why chemical intercoolers are in such demand today is no one thinks much of a chemical cooler. The truth is most folks run nitro methane as well which gives a considerable amount of extra power. So in truth most people can see 50-100 horse power with the effects of both the meth and nitro combined. It is a pricey setup, but no more so than NOS with a whole lot safer approach to the engine. A lot of guys are just running an alcohol/water mix for the cooling( windshield washing fluid and nitro on top in their factory reservoir. Some run the meth/water setup with blue food coloring in the wiper reservoir as well just to look like they are not. I run a 7 gallon reservoir where the spare goes.
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=5


Sorry Amethyst, I see you flaming the guy on the other thread. I already stated I have no need to prove or disprove. No need to appease a stranger on the internet. Now if someone wishes to know for instance that the hahn piping makes the turbo spool unbelievably fast and run like a sc instead of turbo. Or that an aluminum flywheel allows the engine to rev much quicker,, I am all for helping anyone. I have been running turbos for over 20 years, not new to this. Been racing for just a hair longer. Just no desire to appease folks I don't even know.
Good day just the same.

06AmethystHHR
07-12-2009, 10:39 AM
LOL just a simple request to post the timeslip, why is that such a big deal? People typically always ask for them in forums when someone posts up a descent time. Your mph seems low, for example my other car runs a 12.2@114.45mph, 105mph seems a little low for a 12.5 but I guess it is possible. It would just mean your power really dropps off on the top end which seems sort of odd.

What track was this at? What is the big deal about posting a timeslip? I am sure you received one, they always hand them out at that little booth at the end of the track on your way back to the staging lanes. Unless you post a timeslip most people will call major BS on your claim.

If you really did run it then that is a pretty good time. (which I have my doubts since you refuse to post proof)

KinseySS
07-12-2009, 02:42 PM
I went to the 1/4 my first time last week and my best time was only 15.0 sec with the the stage 1. I'm finding I'm having a hard time launching when I have to go when the green goes. I get overcome by my nerves and I react badly with my clutch. generally my launches are fine when I'm just doing it for kicks and I just go when I'm ready, but I need a lot more practice on the track and I can't go for another month :(.

camaro98z28
07-13-2009, 10:52 AM
60 Foot 1.74
330 Foot 5.04
1/8 Mile ET 7.92
1/8 Mile MPH 85.85
1000 Foot 10.41
1/4 Mile ET 12.55
1/4 Mile MPH 105.67
Aluminum flywheel, Hahn piping, 3" mandrel bent straight pipe from manifold, Green filter, Stage 1, Hankook 255/40/18 tires and methanol injection.

Can you post a time slip? Track location and date..

skimike
07-13-2009, 11:49 AM
Ive been to the track quite a bit latley and 12.5 is bad fast , 1.7 60 is gettin it and more hp isnt going to get you a quicker 60 time , unless you have drag spefic tires 1.7s seem too fast , my best is 2.3 to get under 2.0 I think the clutch and the tranny would have to be modified, if the rest of us are running 15 flats with 290 hp 2 1/2 seconds under that would be atleast 100 hp more than our 290 imho. I wish I had a scanner I have several time slips and they arent that impressive thay are all done with the gmhpp stage kit and my best is 14.6 at 100 mph, but most are 15 flat at 97mph

06AmethystHHR
07-13-2009, 12:31 PM
typically, no timeslip=never happened. Until you post up the 12 second timeslip then I doubt anyone is going to believe you. Especially running a 1.7 on street tires with a fwd lol. I have hit 1.79's on street tires with my rwd but that is a rare event. The best i have done with a fwd on street tires was a 1.92 and that was with great track prep and traction bars on the car.

camaro98z28
07-13-2009, 12:45 PM
typically, no timeslip=never happened. Until you post up the 12 second timeslip then I doubt anyone is going to believe you. Especially running a 1.7 on street tires with a fwd lol. I have hit 1.79's on street tires with my rwd but that is a rare event. The best i have done with a fwd on street tires was a 1.92 and that was with great track prep and traction bars on the car.

Agreed! 1.7 60 fts were hard for me with my Z28 pushing 430RWHP and M/T's with a 3900 stall.. I don't see it with street tires.

damronjr
07-13-2009, 02:25 PM
Agreed! 1.7 60 fts were hard for me with my Z28 pushing 430RWHP and M/T's with a 3900 stall.. I don't see it with street tires.

My best 60ft with my Stage 1 AT SS is a 2.2, 1.7 seems way too fast.

camaro98z28
07-13-2009, 03:26 PM
My best R/T with my Stage 1 AT SS is a 2.2, 1.7 seems way too fast.
You mean 60ft time. R/T doesn't have anything to do with 1/4 mile time. You can sit there for 30 minutes and finally hit the gas and hit a 10 second run :)

But I agree, no 60 ft time could be that low on a FWD car with 18 inch street tires. no matter how much VHT they put down on the track.

damronjr
07-13-2009, 03:46 PM
You mean 60ft time. R/T doesn't have anything to do with 1/4 mile time. You can sit there for 30 minutes and finally hit the gas and hit a 10 second run :)

But I agree, no 60 ft time could be that low on a FWD car with 18 inch street tires. no matter how much VHT they put down on the track.

Oops, yeah, 60ft! :lol:

06AmethystHHR
07-13-2009, 03:47 PM
You mean 60ft time. R/T doesn't have anything to do with 1/4 mile time. You can sit there for 30 minutes and finally hit the gas and hit a 10 second run :)

But I agree, no 60 ft time could be that low on a FWD car with 18 inch street tires. no matter how much VHT they put down on the track.

hell that is a feat on drag radials for most fwd cars let alone street tires.

if hankook came up with some street tires capible of 1.7's on a fwd car then sign me up. I am a big fan of that brand but wow :lol:

08redhhrss
07-13-2009, 05:13 PM
lol, let's get back on track guys, lets see some more times......with slips if possible ;-)

damronjr
07-13-2009, 08:53 PM
My best (2942):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/damronjr/misc/Image189.jpg

MrGTO
07-15-2009, 08:13 PM
Here's my slip, Stock 5sp LSD. Too bad I had to run solo. The Honda, I had previously beat, refused to stage against me and ran against the guy behind me instead.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii179/mrgto2005/Drags.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii179/mrgto2005/HHRSSDrags.jpg

08redhhrss
07-15-2009, 10:06 PM
Here's my slip, Stock 5sp LSD. Too bad I had to run solo. The Honda, I had previously beat, refused to stage against me and ran against the guy behind me instead.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii179/mrgto2005/Drags.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii179/mrgto2005/HHRSSDrags.jpg

Nice, very nice keep em' comin'!!

crazysteve
07-15-2009, 11:07 PM
I run our shop drag car (600+HP set up for drags on slicks) and the best short times have been 1.7 there is no way in hell you are going to do that in our fat tanks I dont care what you say....then to top that I am looking at my time slip from last year and I had similar 1/8 times then your times just get completely unreal...sorry just calling what I see....I think 1.9's will be the best 60's you see from our HHR

yamaha1469
07-30-2009, 08:30 AM
Ran last night stage kit 5 spd 14.9 at 98 bit of spin but not to bad first time out.

REX347
07-30-2009, 10:51 PM
60ft has alot to do with ET. No offense but if your shop drag car is only pulling 1.7 60fts you have issues somewhere. Unless its a FWD car which I have no clue about. I pull 1.3X 60fts with a stock suspension on a 28x10.5 tire. Rule of thumb each .1 off of the 60ft is equal to roughly .2 out the back in the 1/4. His times and MPH are consistant with his 60ft, however I do agree doing it on street tires makes it questionable. MPH/HP has alot to do with dropping ET when you have wheel spin (bad 60ft). Thats why you may see a car running higher ET's with high mph. The exact oposite is the same when you have a car that hooks really well. Two cars can run similar mph but if one pulls a 1.7 vs 2.0 60ft its gonna run a much lower ET.

That being said. You can have all the power in the world but if you cant put it into the ground it useless.

Rex
PS: A 60ft may be off if you trip the 60ft beams with the rear tires. :nuts: I am in the far lane. This was the Cheap Street finals from the Clash of The titans World Finals 2008 in Houston. 60ft was only a 1.51.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/REX331/th_REXVSBEN.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/REX331/?action=view&current=REXVSBEN.flv)

REX347
07-30-2009, 10:52 PM
BTW I am impressed with the times the SS's are laying down.

camaro98z28
08-01-2009, 10:59 AM
No new times with the mods so here are my weak stock times.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j310/I_O_U_1/HHRSSStockETRuns.jpg

Jaxon
08-03-2009, 03:45 AM
I ran my HHR for the first time friday night. I am 100% bone stock except 5 minutes of tinkering with HP tuners. I spiked around 23psi@3k and held 19.5. I have alot more tuning to do and I need to scan my time slips. My first and fastest run was a 14.168@102.05 with a 2.486 60'. I bogged it down to ~2000rpm on the launch, using launch control and NLS. After that it took a second to build boost. 2nd and 3rd runs had a better 60 even though I still bogged a little bit, but had troubles NLS into 2nd. Ran a 15.1@102.03 and 14.6@102.04 respectively. That was somewhat hot lapping at the strip. My IATs were crazy high, ran 3 times in 1hr 6min. I was stoked after the first run but disappointed on the next 2. I wish I could've gotten that 60' down on my first run to break into the 13s. There was a Caliber SRT-4 that runs consistent 14.0s stock with a horrible sounding exhaust. Not too bad considering a friend of mine has a cobalt ss with hard piping and a catless DP and he ran a 14.1 best in better weather.

c2vette
08-03-2009, 09:46 PM
Anyone know where I can go in Central to Southern California and make a few passes without waiting in line for hours. Last time I was at a drag strip was in 1976 (yeah, I am old) been playing with the Aeroforce (on a private road) and running some pretty good times even with an easy launch and slow shifts (best was 13.3 and 105 mph). Like to confirm that with a time slip (Hahn/PPC, Hahn Downpipe and Catback, Hahn InterCooler and Charge Pipes, K&N intake, rear seat and spare tire removed, 1/4 tank fuel, 93 octane, cold foggy morning). I don't want to abuse my trans or clutch, but in comp mode, with slicks, I am thinking we should be close to the magic 12 second range.

Yonash
08-04-2009, 12:56 AM
Anyone know where I can go in Central to Southern California and make a few passes without waiting in line for hours. Last time I was at a drag strip was in 1976 (yeah, I am old) been playing with the Aeroforce (on a private road) and running some pretty good times even with an easy launch and slow shifts (best was 13.3 and 105 mph). Like to confirm that with a time slip (Hahn/PPC, Hahn Downpipe and Catback, Hahn InterCooler and Charge Pipes, K&N intake, rear seat and spare tire removed, 1/4 tank fuel, 93 octane, cold foggy morning). I don't want to abuse my trans or clutch, but in comp mode, with slicks, I am thinking we should be close to the magic 12 second range.

if you find a place like that, let me know, i'd love to go do that. last time i went out to Famoso for a T&T night, i was there like 3.5 hours and only got in like 2 runs. i had fun, but boy was i upset with how few runs i got in.

Jaxon
08-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Lol, atleast you get some cool down time. I went for "Midnight Madness" out here at Gateway raceway and ran 3 times between 12:54am and 2:04am although that was after ALOT of people had already left, it opened at 8-9pm.

novadude
08-26-2009, 07:15 PM
Sacramento or Bakersfield I think are your only choices in the valley, there is/was a track in Palmdale but I think it closed,, not sure though.

crazysteve
08-28-2009, 10:03 PM
60ft has alot to do with ET. No offense but if your shop drag car is only pulling 1.7 60fts you have issues somewhere. Unless its a FWD car which I have no clue about. I pull 1.3X 60fts with a stock suspension on a 28x10.5 tire. Rule of thumb each .1 off of the 60ft is equal to roughly .2 out the back in the 1/4. His times and MPH are consistant with his 60ft, however I do agree doing it on street tires makes it questionable. MPH/HP has alot to do with dropping ET when you have wheel spin (bad 60ft). Thats why you may see a car running higher ET's with high mph. The exact oposite is the same when you have a car that hooks really well. Two cars can run similar mph but if one pulls a 1.7 vs 2.0 60ft its gonna run a much lower ET.

That being said. You can have all the power in the world but if you cant put it into the ground it useless.

Rex
PS: A 60ft may be off if you trip the 60ft beams with the rear tires. :nuts: I am in the far lane. This was the Cheap Street finals from the Clash of The titans World Finals 2008 in Houston. 60ft was only a 1.51.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/REX331/th_REXVSBEN.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/REX331/?action=view&current=REXVSBEN.flv)

We own the fastest Saab in North America (we are a saab specialist) so yep we are wrong wheel drive aka FWD, so 1.7 60s on a turbo FWD is pretty good.

asanti
08-29-2009, 11:19 AM
Mine is an auto with the stage 1 upgrade, the fastest times were 14.22@99mph and 14.28@101.48mph


A few questions 08HHR SS: What track did you run at? Did you use drag radials? Were these runs done w/ Competition mode on or off? And was the trans in "D" or "I" during the runs? Those are great times, if I can match that at Englishtown in Jersey, I'll be very happy.

Later
Allex

stephenm
09-10-2009, 04:38 PM
A few questions 08HHR SS: What track did you run at? Did you use drag radials? Were these runs done w/ Competition mode on or off? And was the trans in "D" or "I" during the runs? Those are great times, if I can match that at Englishtown in Jersey, I'll be very happy.

Later
Allex

Lebanon valley might be closer

SPPD
09-10-2009, 05:20 PM
Great lakes Dragaway(union grove, WI) is having fun racing open to all on friday 9-11-2009. I may head up there and "Watch" the races. It starts at 5pm and goes till 10. $35 to race and 15 to watch. Last weekend there were only about 20 cars racing so I bet I could have gotten at least 10 to 15 passes in had my car not broke. The weather in Union Grove looks like it willl be great this weekend too.

If anyone is interested in heading up, I will see you there.

http://www.greatlakesdragaway.com/index.php?page=2009schedule

SPPD

SPPD
09-11-2009, 04:51 PM
Great lakes Dragaway(union grove, WI) is having fun racing open to all on friday 9-11-2009. I may head up there and "Watch" the races. It starts at 5pm and goes till 10. $35 to race and 15 to watch. Last weekend there were only about 20 cars racing so I bet I could have gotten at least 10 to 15 passes in had my car not broke. The weather in Union Grove looks like it willl be great this weekend too.

If anyone is interested in heading up, I will see you there.

http://www.greatlakesdragaway.com/index.php?page=2009schedule

SPPD

Im leaving now, hope to see some others up there.

SPPD

damronjr
09-11-2009, 10:12 PM
Let us know how it goes and post some times. We are having races here tonight as well but it's only 1/8mi in a parking lot so there is no traction and I am dead broke, so no races for me. :(