urbexHHR
10-26-2009, 10:54 AM
Anyone ever heard of this, or does anyone do this?
http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9701967776/m/28819800301
http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9701967776/m/28819800301
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View Full Version : Adding 2-Stroke Oil to Gasonline? urbexHHR 10-26-2009, 10:54 AM Anyone ever heard of this, or does anyone do this? http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9701967776/m/28819800301 prod 10-26-2009, 11:12 AM Im betting it would not be good for emission systems like the catalytic converter. esmarkey 10-26-2009, 11:16 AM Probably not good for the plugs either... wolfman 10-26-2009, 11:36 AM DO NOT add two stroke oil to your gasoline. You will foul the injectors and ruin the catalytic convertor. Kiss your warranty goodbye as well. oneton 10-26-2009, 11:50 AM WHY would you want to do this? what is the claim that you should do this? urbexHHR 10-26-2009, 03:37 PM The claim from the original forum it was mentioned on was to lubricate the engine and increase performance/efficiency. Don't worry, I'm not doing that...it doesn't sound very safe to me. There are plenty of old cars around today and no one added anything but gasoline to them.... I was just wondering if anyone has ever heard of doing this before. MCT 10-26-2009, 04:41 PM I know of folks who use Marvel Myster Oil to keep the top end clean of carbon deposits and the valve guides lubricated but never two-stroke oil. That would cause the opposite and increase deposits. Marvel Myster Oil, though not approved in aircraft use, was and still is popular with folks who have older aircraft engines that were originally designed for low octane fuel. It is believed to help scavenge the carbon out of the cylinder and, again, keep the valve stems clean and lubricated. MM Oil has been analyzed as a mild solvent. It can be used in the oil, (top end), and the fuel, (cylinder and intake), but that is up to the owner. ChevyMgr 10-26-2009, 04:57 PM Silly internet. You read the funniest things out here. :roll: Snoopy 10-26-2009, 06:10 PM Hey Kid...... Not ragging on you. But after reading all the posts in the thread you posted, I believe I understand the ratio of gas to oil needs to be exact. If that is the case, who is going to PRECISELY measure the oil at every fill-up. For example......IF the car has EXACTLY 16 gallons of gas the 2 cycle oil that is added will need to be 4.096 oz. What if you have 15.7 gallons....or 16.2....you get were I'm going? It needs to be exactly computed each time. And that doesn't even consider the amount of fuel already in the tank (how would you know the exact amount). As ChevyMgr indicates....it's the INTERNET lore. I remember about 20 years ago the myth on adding "about" a gallon of diesel to a 20 gallons of gas, to gain MPG. I did this for about 2 months in a 69 olds. 350. Vehicle ran o'k and I think I experienced 1-2 mpg more. Then GM ran a CONTROLLED test of that mixture on 3 separate vehicles for a total of about 30,000 miles. Showed an appreciable gain of .35 MPG. NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE. I don't think I would EXPERIMENT with any new car with the injection, emissions, and electronics that we have.......JMO. AJochum 10-26-2009, 07:21 PM That's a fun thread to read. First of all, it points out that if you think we have heated items in our forum.....Next, from that article I think I can safely say that it has been reported that drivers of vehicles adding oil to their gas: 1.) Experience more erections than those not using the oil. 2.) Receive larger and more valuable candy in their Halloween bags. 3.) Etc. etc. etc. I just wonder how they prove their arguments. wxman 10-26-2009, 09:28 PM This reminds me of the time when a classmate in my horticulture class killed her entire back yard after the lesson talking about pesticides and how horticultural oil works by suffocating the little buggers. She evidently did not listen or understand the lesson, because she sprayed motor oil on all her plants. Ded. Good intentions and bad information can yield quite unexpected results. txbass06 10-26-2009, 09:47 PM I don't think I would EXPERIMENT with any new car with the injection, emissions, and electronics that we have.......JMO. Agreed urbexHHR 10-26-2009, 09:58 PM Oh yeah, I wouldn't put crap in there that isn't tested...especially now a days! Just wondering if anyone had ever heard of that before....because I never have! txbass06 10-26-2009, 10:26 PM I've heard of people doing it. As a matter of fact, there's a guy that does it in his supercarged HHR on another forum. I think he used to be a member here... c2vette 10-26-2009, 10:57 PM Even if you have experience with any additive from the past and felt it helped, bear in mind a Direct Injected engine where combustion is immediate and no fuel flows over the intake valves or seats that it is a whole different situation. rad white panel 11-21-2009, 06:56 PM I have a GMC diesel 6.5 and I put 1 quart of 2 cycle oil every fill up this replaces the lubricity lost when they removed most of the sulfur from the diesel fuel. tireman1554 11-21-2009, 08:55 PM I say just bump up the Flux Capacitor from 1.21 Gigawatts to a full blown 2.0 then you will need no additives.:thumb: laborkei 11-21-2009, 09:14 PM What about Finger Nail Polish Remover... 100% Acetone... Great Injector Cleaner. IgottaWoody 11-21-2009, 10:56 PM Acetone.. now theres one way to keep your seals fresh.......that is by replacing them all the time... EcoBoost 01-10-2010, 11:37 PM Another key caution is this...oil is a known detonant, in that it can cause serious detonation (spark-knock) to occur. In our racing engines, it is an enemy when ingested via the intake system. I can't see it being friendly to HHR engines when used in this way. sleeper 01-11-2010, 12:15 AM I know of folks who use Marvel Myster Oil to keep the top end clean of carbon deposits and the valve guides lubricated but never two-stroke oil. That would cause the opposite and increase deposits. Marvel Myster Oil, though not approved in aircraft use, was and still is popular with folks who have older aircraft engines that were originally designed for low octane fuel. It is believed to help scavenge the carbon out of the cylinder and, again, keep the valve stems clean and lubricated. MM Oil has been analyzed as a mild solvent. It can be used in the oil, (top end), and the fuel, (cylinder and intake), but that is up to the owner. I do use MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil) in my ol FlatHead Harley...As it was intended to run on Leaded gas..And I've owned it since early 80's. Would never add it to my HHR tho... |