Coming back from a vendor yesterday the HHR's A/C just quit.

I stopped and checked all the fuses (good), and the relays (A/C Relay was very HOT!). Got back in and nuthin' - just very hot air.

Of course this has to happen on a 100-degree day here...

So I called my service advisor yesterday and set up an appointment. Took it in this am for:

1) Fix A/C

2) Fix A/C TSB (replace condenser lines - noise related)

3) Reflash ECU to most current release.

Figured while I have it in, might as well get it updated.

My service guy is very cool and love it whenever I come in to see him. they don't care about the intake, exhaust, lowering, etc. UNLESS - my problem is related to one of those things! :lol: Fortunately none have been.

Anyway, I should know later this afternoon what the scoop is and will post more then. Things happen...

Yikes!!! :scared: In 100 degree weather to boot.

Looking forward to hearing what they have to say. No noise or warning before it went out?

Guess I'm really lucky that I haven't had any major issues with mine. Only service related thing I've had done was having the running boards installed, rear hatch check for clicking noise which ended up being normal actuator noise and having computer reprogrammed when I got 6 disc player from Toyko.

Might have a leak in the system. Once it gets too low the A/C clutch will not engage. Hope they fix it fast for you Mike. Man shes hot down there. It's only 23 C here and rain. Darn Canadian springs or should I say Summer. First day of summer.

Poor SoCal folks - you're already hittin' 100?

It's only gotten to 113 (which it will today, as well!) here in AZ - a few times so far. I'm sure it will get HOTTER, though, as the summer progresses. As long as it doesn't get back up to 122 :eek: like it did a few years back, I think I'll be all right. (As I posted before - 122 - yes, degrees, and yes, fahrenheit!) :scared:

UPDATE: Seems I picked up a rock (EDIT: a pebble!), and took out the whole condenser unit. Should have known better and installed a lower grille (I have plenty here!)

Anyway, GM wants $800 to fix it. I told them to order the parts but I'm not paying. they gave me the good 'ol 800 number to call.

I'm going to call and tell them about the others here who have had the same thing happen, and demand they fix it as a design flaw - all they needed to do was put a screen there to protect the condenser. It's foolish to think all these HHR's are going to have the A/C taken out by even small road debris!

If they say no...anyone up for a Class Action Suit?

PM me to sign up...! :lol:

Well...that sucks Mike. I'd be happy to help on the class action suit...but I have one of your lower grilles on my HHR. :smile:

Good luck fighting with GM on this issue. Hope all goes your way and you get them to cover it under warranty. I'm sure owning a business that deals with HHR's just might help you. It's definitely a design flaw leaving that area wide open, inviting things to fly through the gaping hole.

I'm looking for Sindy Dix lower grill project right now, it's on here somewhere!

I'm looking for Sindy Dix lower grill project right now, it's on here somewhere!
Here you go MikeX. :lol:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2046

Thanks - what service! I'm looking in the attic this weekend for the wire mesh.

:bow:

That little man in my smiley is working in about the right spot. I wonder if that Bumpstops guy does housecalls?

Looks like I'll be getting a lower grill from Mike next.

Looks like I'll be getting a lower grill from Mike next.

But didn't he have his own product on his HHR?

http://webpages.charter.net/nashme/threadbombs/shrug.gif

Mike - here's your post from the other thread.

"Actually, it is protecting the air conditioning condenser!
A hard enough hit would damage both though...
Everyone should have something there for protection! "

But didn't he have his own product on his HHR?

http://webpages.charter.net/nashme/threadbombs/shrug.gif
Unfortunately, he did not Mike. But you know how it goes with stuff like that. With all he has going on, I'm sure that just got overlooked. :red:

For those that don't have any sort of protection in that area, I would suggest putting something on ASAP. It happened to Mike...and it can happen to anyone. I'm sure he's gonna get a run on these lower grilles now. Glad I already have mine.

That little man in my smiley is working in about the right spot. I wonder if that Bumpstops guy does housecalls?
Your smiley is working from the underside of the patient.
http://webpages.charter.net/nashme/threadbombs/undercar.gif
If anyone needs additional photos, let me know what view you want and I'll go take 'em for ya!

Mr. Bumpstops installed the 'economy' unit from the top side!
It's easier to access the attaching points from the top side!
http://www.sindydix.com/storage/grillbolt.jpg

Would you trust this face?
http://www.sindydix.com/storage/grillguy.jpg

Sign me up there Mike, I'm in!

LOL - well I'm pretty good with mech. stuff so I'll attempt the job. That smiley guy sleeps in my garage anyhow so he'll help me out. Yea but I would trust that face also.

:smile:

OK people - I looked under his products link 3 times and didn't see hide nor hair of a lower grill. Where is he hiding it?

:confused:

OK people - I looked under his products link 3 times and didn't see hide nor hair of a lower grill. Where is he hiding it?

:confused:

They be gone....he's not selling them anymore.

They be gone....he's not selling them anymore.

I would suggest in the spirit of capitalism that he can now re-stock and be sure of making mucho dollarados.

:wink:

From what he posted there was a big quality control issue.

I'm sure Deb will have the link for that thread for ya anytime now!:poke:

OK people - I looked under his products link 3 times and didn't see hide nor hair of a lower grill. Where is he hiding it?

:confused:

As said by SoCal himself....Hi Mike, the fitment problem we had was mainly with the Classic Billet Upper Grilles. Even our latest delivery (which was supposed to be "corrected" grilles), fit very poorly.

The 120 Wire Mesh Grilles fit fine - but they can't seem to make them fast enough to keep any in stock. (They have to be sent out for plating, and that takes extra time).

The Lower Classic Billet grilles fit fine, but again, they can't provide us with enough product to keep them in stock.

I like to provide a good quality product that fits properly out of the box, from a company that will meet my quantity demands. It's no fun spending hours updating websites with "in stock...out of stock." If you notice, most other online shops always say "in stock" - even if it's not! They would rather take your money and deal with getting you the product later...(when you start complaining!)

I don't like to do business that way. I want to be known for good products, fast shipping, and great customer service. It doesn't always work out that way, but it's something to strive for! :thumb:

Thanks jx3 :bow:

After I saw that SoCal didn't have any bumper grilles available on Sunday, June 18th I ordered one from AutoAnything. :thumb: The link is listed below. It came today, Wednesday June 21st. It is top notch. I installed it in about 45 minutes and it fits great. Trying to get ready for an 1100 mile road trip and I wanted some protection. Has anyone had issues with cooling?
Good Price Excellent product and Free Fast Shipping.

http://www.autoanything.com/billet-grilles/61A1728A0A0.aspx

John11

Thanks jx3 :bow:

Not a prob!!:thumb:

Thanks jx3 from another Mac user. Nice picture of Eddie. :cool: I need to post a shot of our Irish Setter cruising.

John

After I saw that SoCal didn't have any bumper grilles available on Sunday, June 18th I ordered one from AutoAnything. :thumb: The link is listed below. It came today, Wednesday June 21st. It is top notch. I installed it in about 45 minutes and it fits great. Trying to get ready for an 1100 mile road trip and I wanted some protection. Has anyone had issues with cooling?
Good Price Excellent product and Free Fast Shipping.

http://www.autoanything.com/billet-grilles/61A1728A0A0.aspx

John11

Great find John11...excellent price and it's always good to hear positive feedback about aftermarket parts for the HHR. Looks to me like more and more stuff is becoming available for the HHR.

Thanks for the link to SoCal's comments...just remembered why they weren't on there when I read that. See what happens when you have a birthday and turn 52. :lol:

Man.. This is kind of timely. I used the Mr. Bumpstops method for mounting some heavy duty gutter guard for my "lower grill". The guy next door does guttering and roofing and just came over with a 35" piece they had left over from a job. It fits perfectly after cutting down to 32", securing with a couple nuts and washers to the stock bolts up front, and enough to wrap around the lower part of the bumper for a nice tight fit. Since I had the washers and nuts, total cost of $0.00. The protection it will give: priceless.

Thanks jx3 from another Mac user. Nice picture of Eddie. :cool: I need to post a shot of our Irish Setter cruising.

John

Looking forward to seeing him/her in the pet thread.....

http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1358

Man.. This is kind of timely. I used the Mr. Bumpstops method for mounting some heavy duty gutter guard for my "lower grill". The guy next door does guttering and roofing and just came over with a 35" piece they had left over from a job. It fits perfectly after cutting down to 32", securing with a couple nuts and washers to the stock bolts up front, and enough to wrap around the lower part of the bumper for a nice tight fit. Since I had the washers and nuts, total cost of $0.00. The protection it will give: priceless.

Did you use anything to cover the outside edges of the screen, so it won't scratch?

Here's why I didn't have one on: I don't care for the look of the PB lower grille with my upper grille, and was planning on installing a Mr. Bumpstops Economy model lower grille. Sindy sent me one and I've had it here for a few weeks.

I was (and am still), planning on taking it to the vendor who will be making custom grilles for us to see about getting them made as a "house grille" for SoCalHHR's. Of course, the whole time it's been on the bench in the shop, and everytime I walk by it screams "hey! Put me on!" - but I'm always too busy and also needed it "off" to give the grille guy for a template. In the meanwhile you see what happens...

There is nothing wrong with the PB lower grilles, they go on in a snap and we have had zero fitment issues. However, I recently decided not to carry their products as the UPPER grille has been the source of many, many headaches for me. (If you ONLY knew! :mad: )

And yes, if I was a capitalist, I'd certainly still be selling them - especially with my latest post! But as you can see, some things are more important to me than "sales" - like providing a quality product from a company I can trust.

As far as the "Class Action Suit" - if I have to pay $800 to get my air fixed on a car thats 6-months old, that's too bad. HOWEVER - this is becoming a recurring problem (we have had reports from at least 4 people on this already), so it's starting to smack of "design flaw."

On the way to the dealer to pick up my HHR earlier, I looked at every oncoming car on the road - ALL had protection where the lower vent area is. Even at the dealer, the Service Manager mentioned that it is not a problem on other GM cars, and they don't have mesh - just then I turned to the Corvette right next to me and pointed at the factory MESH behind the large gaping hole below the bumper...(uh, yeah - ooops!)

It would be more important for me, as an HHR owner and a member of this community, to be able to set a precedent that GM would admit it is a design problem and offer to retrofit a solution and pay for any damages incurred to the condenser. It is a first year model car and there are bound to be some problems that arise - they need to step up to the plate and fix the problem - the condenser is not protected from daily road hazards. A dent on my bumper or scratch on a headlight from a stray rock is acceptable from daily driving - losing my air conditioning is NOT!

End of rant.

I'll let you all know what the GM Regional Rep says.
I'm speaking with him in the morning...

The protection it will give: priceless.

Well, I can tell you it's at least worth $800! :lol:

Sounds like the song I've been singing about the running boards. I saw this mesh awhile ago on eBay. Almost bought it but held back because the seller wasn't registered. Anyone (Mike) know where this could be had??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8069810469&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Good luck there Mike. I'll go with a Bumpstops model for now until you convince GM to give us all factory engineered guards. I hope the planets are aligned in the right way when you talk to them.

Excellent post Mike. Look forward to hearing what GM has to say. Good Luck.

Did you use anything to cover the outside edges of the screen, so it won't scratch?

Nope. The only thing it could scratch is the inside of the bumper which will never see the light of day anyway. It's already trimmed on top and bottom with a metal strip, so only the sides are raw mesh. These were folded at the ends so there were no sharp edges.

It never sounds good when people say "good luck!' :lol:

Thinking about it more. If I pay $800 and have my condenser replaced, what's going to happen next week when I'm driving the same stretch of road and hit another rock? I'll have to pay another $800 - that's what!

This will be a recurring problem for HHR owners everywhere if it is not addressed by GM now.

Sounds like the song I've been singing about the running boards. I saw this mesh awhile ago on eBay. Almost bought it but held back because the seller wasn't registered. Anyone (Mike) know where this could be had??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8069810469&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Here's something very similar.

http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/analmespgr.html

Here's another that I found.....less expensive

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000323604/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000323604/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000323604


And to give it that "Mr. Bumpstops" deluxe treatment

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2008662/showCustom-0/p-2008662/N-111+600003813+10201/c-10101

What would you think of a full perimeter mesh lower grille that mounts on the outside like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Troopster93/Volvo/S40V50Chrome.jpg

We could have it made in either Chrome or Black finish...

Thoughts?

Yea thats cool OK, but what's the price point? I know you're gonna say if it's less than $800 it's a bargain right now...

Howz about $799? (Gotta pay for the tooling, ya know?)

Seriously, - I'll have to look into it.

pretty snazzy! Gotta see installed, you know how we are! Looks great on that orange background! What a perfect match for an Orange HHR! Deb, Deb, where are youuuu?

I'm more curious as to what everyone think about an EXTERNALLY mounted lower grill like this? (With the chrome frame visible.)

That would look pretty slick actually. The inside mountings are great, but hardly seen unless you are laying on the pavement. Might give things a bit more flash as it were externally mounted like that.

I like the looks, but would I be able to afford it.......that's the question

Man this thread is hot!

pretty snazzy! Gotta see installed, you know how we are! Looks great on that orange background! What a perfect match for an Orange HHR! Deb, Deb, where are youuuu?
I'm here...I'm here. :lol: That is a pretty snazzy looking grille. Depending on how much it is, I might be willing to purchase something like that. However, I do already have money invested in the lower grille that SoCalHHR's sells, so I'm in good shape for now. :smile:

Man this thread is hot!
So is Mike from SoCalHHR's. :red:

We all think about protection when it's too late sometimes now don't we!
Necessity is the mother of invention... ya'll know who first said that? Well, neither do I but my Dad tells me that quite often!
This just might be a hotter item the Stubbies and SoCalHHR's decals!

I'm more curious as to what everyone think about an EXTERNALLY mounted lower grill like this? (With the chrome frame visible.)
Mike, First one I have seen that is practical and a easy application mod. I might be interested if it is not too terrible exspensive.

I'm more curious as to what everyone think about an EXTERNALLY mounted lower grill like this? (With the chrome frame visible.)

I would definitely go for it especially if it's chromed...pending price of course. Hopefully it wouldn't be too hard to have it installed either. ;)

If the price was not to high I would be in for one also.

Thanks guys; just trying to get a feel for what everyone would like.

PLEASE see my other thread in Supporting Vendors regarding new options for the main UPPER grille. We need your feedback...

I vote for an outside bolt on grill if it can look decent. Black or chrome would look nice.

Note the rear grill on my other Chevy. A Very tasteful Mesh and Very CHROME!:one:
I likes ChROME!!!:nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

http://www.pbase.com/harpozep/image/49093624/original.jpg

What would you think of a full perimeter mesh lower grille that mounts on the outside like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Troopster93/Volvo/S40V50Chrome.jpg

We could have it made in either Chrome or Black finish...

Thoughts?

If you build it, they will come, at least I'll be in line for a chrome one!!:thumb:

What would you think of a full perimeter mesh lower grille that mounts on the outside like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Troopster93/Volvo/S40V50Chrome.jpg



id get one in chrome

What would you think of a full perimeter mesh lower grille that mounts on the outside like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Troopster93/Volvo/S40V50Chrome.jpg

We could have it made in either Chrome or Black finish...

Thoughts?

I would also like one in Chrome. "Can I have it for the weekend?" :D

After I saw that SoCal didn't have any bumper grilles available on Sunday, June 18th I ordered one from AutoAnything. :thumb: The link is listed below. It came today, Wednesday June 21st. It is top notch. I installed it in about 45 minutes and it fits great. Trying to get ready for an 1100 mile road trip and I wanted some protection. Has anyone had issues with cooling?
Good Price Excellent product and Free Fast Shipping.

http://www.autoanything.com/billet-grilles/61A1728A0A0.aspx

John11


Any pics of it installed on your HHR? From the pics they show on AutoAnything I can't see why there would be any cooling problem, looks good to me....price ain't bad either.

UPDATE: Seems I picked up a rock and took out the whole condenser unit. Should have known better and installed a lower grille (I have plenty here!)

Anyway, GM wants $800 to fix it. I told them to order the parts but I'm not paying. they gave me the good 'ol 800 number to call.

I'm going to call and tell them about the others here who have had the same thing happen, and demand they fix it as a design flaw - all they needed to do was put a screen there to protect the condenser. It's foolish to think all these HHR's are going to have the A/C taken out by a rock.

If they say no...anyone up for a Class Action Suit?

PM me to sign up...! :lol: HI MIKE I WAS AT MY DEALERSHIP YESTERDAY . THEY WERE COMENTING ON MY NEW LOWER GRILL HOW GOOD IT LOOKED. THEY ALSO AGREED THAT THERE SHOULD OF BEEN SOME SORT OF GRILL THERE FROM THE FACTORY. LIVING IN A CITY WHERE THERE IS ON GOING CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING ALL THE TIME I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOME MESH BEHIND THE GRILL I BOUGHT. JUST MY THOUGHT. :thumb:
http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/7/9/6/badges003.jpg

DarkAge53

I just installed it yesterday afternoon in 45 minutes. It is very nice quality and a perfect fit. It is the Carriage Works Bumper Grill chrome finish. I have seen a lot of other members have a similar grill. I just joined as a premium member so I can post pictures now. The members here have already saved me more than the $5.99 to become a premium member. Great site. John11:smile:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/9/3/0/BumperGrille3.jpg

Observations;

I just went for a walk in our parking lot to see what other cars have for a grill covering that coil, and I was surprised at what I saw. Many makes do not really have any substantive grill there either - examples I saw are Honda Accord, Mitsubishi SUV, Toyota Avalon, others. They were basically open to rocks except for a thin horizontal strip and several vertical strips, certainly nothing that would block rocks at all. So I am now seeing that the A/C coil on other makes is very wide open also.

Opinions???

P.S. I'm still going to put a grill there, I'm just wondering why the industry has so many makes with the coil so exposed?

http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=908&highlight=grill
I've made the recommendation awhile back...
Even with it.. I noticed some substanial hits taken to it but , no intrusions .. have again awhile back...., modified the material used....

After I saw that SoCal didn't have any bumper grilles available on Sunday, June 18th I ordered one from AutoAnything. :thumb: The link is listed below. It came today, Wednesday June 21st. It is top notch. I installed it in about 45 minutes and it fits great. Trying to get ready for an 1100 mile road trip and I wanted some protection. Has anyone had issues with cooling?
Good Price Excellent product and Free Fast Shipping.

http://www.autoanything.com/billet-grilles/61A1728A0A0.aspx

John11

It doesn't look very close net in spacing, and intrustions could still be possible.. or is there fine mesh behind it ?

I used fine mesh ... Stainless number 10 x .025 temps varies from 185 - 190... no cooling problems..

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/hvrodpics/fnemesh.jpg

Well, I finally feel compelled to put my two cents in on this thread:
The 'industry' as a whole (Chevy, Honda, etc.) does not put a grille there because it's cheaper for them not to do so. The number of complaints/repairs/warranty work that actually gets approved is way less than the cost of putting a grille on every vehicle. While I am by no means supporting the 'industry', I am also trying very hard not to take sides. I support my HHR BretHHRen first and foremost, but I have also seen the other side of the story:
In my previous life, I worked for a retailer for 15 years. People brought in products all the time because, in their opinion, they were flawed or did not last as long as they thought they should. Our policy consisted of sending the product back to the manufacturer and have them evaluate it. Sometimes the customer got a new product, other times the manufacturer deemed that the product had performed as designed, and sent the used product back. This process was handled on a case-by-case basis. The majority of times, though, the customer simply felt that they were entitled to more, because they paid good money and felt (again, in their opinion) that they deserved more.
While in SoCal's opinion (and many others, I assume), this is a design flaw, I seriously doubt that Chevy/GM will see it the same way. This is because they would have to admit a mistake on their behalf, would have to perform a recall of some sort, and provide a grille (or some other product that would do a grille's job adequately) to EVERYONE that has purchased an HHR thus far. Think this will happen? Sorry, but not in our lifetime. This is because rocks hitting the condenser or radiator WILL cause SOME problems, but it will be cheaper for Chevy/GM to address such issues on a case-by-case basis, since this will not occur to every HHR on the road.
I wish Mike the best of luck, and hopefully he's one of the lucky ones that will get the work done on GM's account, but I also wouldn't hold my breath on it. My prediction is that they will meet halfway somehow, and Mike will have to shell out some money for the repair. Good Luck!
That's my :2cents:

Anyone (Mike) know where this could be had??

Here's an assortment of your 'typcial' grill mesh's... there's better out there (more $$$) and there's worse. :thumb:

http://www.customcargrills.com/

(Look under GRILL MESH for a variety of styles)

I like the looks, but would I be able to afford it.......that's the question

:thumb: Ditto for me! If the price is right and it's not too big a hassle to install I'm in for one!:banana:

Here are some pics:

From the front (nothing visible):

http://www.socalhhr.citymax.com/i/Hidden%20Pics/1_Condenser_Front_640.jpg

Up behind the bumper:

http://www.socalhhr.citymax.com/i/Hidden%20Pics/2_Rock_Damage_640.jpg

Size of damage (compared to Quarter):

http://www.socalhhr.citymax.com/i/Hidden%20Pics/3_RockDamage_640.jpg

As you can see, the damage was cause by a pebble smaller than a dime.

Better get some protection on there quick! You're next.

(Still no word on whether they will cover it.)

I'll keep you posted...

Mike, I been reading this post very carefully and I think I will call my dealer tomorrow and the salesman I know and see if they have had any problems with this.

Mike, I hope that you get this resolved quick and satifactorally. If every one would present this to their Chevy rep. Maybe something can be done for this problem in the future.

Er, Mike....:bow: . Maybe you need a running board in front??? :eek:

Mike......... Mike nnnnnooooooooooooo not that!! :eek:

Tom - we don't even have deer around here! :lol:

Move up here, you usally don't need the AC. and bring a jacket if you come..

Out on the road today it was very hot with no A/C:

http://www.socalhhr.citymax.com/i/Hidden%20Pics/105_at_105.jpg

My speedo is off 5mph now with the bigger tires, so that's 105 @ 105. :thumb:

105 :confused: thats it? :lol: Was that in the middle of the day right in the sunlight? Hell that is are night time temp. :lol:

Reminder: that was outside the car at 105mph (shouldn't it be cooler?) :lol:

Things were heating up considerably more inside with no a/c...:red:

When I left work today at around 5:45, mine said 115 and onc I was driving it went to about 113 :lol:

Difference: I have a BIG HOLE in my condenser!!! :cussing:

Difference: I have a BIG HOLE in my condenser!!! :cussing:

Mike I really do feel you pain. I use to have a car with no ac and I had to get to work duing the summer time. It really sucked something bad. I am just busting your balls cause I know you can take it. :thumb:

I know it! :lol: I grew up in Yuma, driving a 1950 Willy's Jeep around from age 9-17. No top, no doors, just hop in and go!

Summers? Talk about HOT! :red:

I can take it...:thumb:

Yuma yuck :lol:
Glad you can take it. Hate for you to push me off the edge of the cayon and leave my wife with the HHR :lol: :lol:

I hope you weren't doing 105 on the streets of Murrieta...:wtf:

Ng

Yuma yuck :lol:
Glad you can take it. Hate for you to push me off the edge of the cayon and leave my wife with the HHR :lol: :lol:

That wouldn't be so bad......for her! :lol:

I hope you weren't doing 105 on the streets of Murrieta...:wtf:

Ng

Uh. No. Only in approved airspaces.

since I like the contrasting black, I'd be interested in a black one, as many have said, price pending....

Did I see Murrieta? I lived there for 14 years and now my daughter and her family are living there in my old place.

Uh. No. Only in approved airspaces.

Did I see Murrieta? I lived there for 14 years and now my daughter and her family are living there in my old place.
Yeppers...that's what you saw. SoCalHHR'S is in Murietta and you can check it out here (http://www.socalhhrs.com/contact.html) on Mike's site. He's got a nice selection of HHR goodies. :smile:

Hey Mike while you were out somewhere doing 105 :roll: I was stuck on the I-15 North doing one mile per hour :cussing: What normally takes me 30-45 minutes took me 4 hours! :mad: Click the Link! (http://www.kusi.com/home/3264066.html)

Ng

Hey Mike while you were out somewhere doing 105 :roll: I was stuck on the I-15 North doing one mile per hour :cussing: What normally takes me 30-45 minutes took me 4 hours! :mad: Click the Link! (http://www.kusi.com/home/3264066.html)

Ng

Oh yeah, - that sucked BIG time! It took me 2-1/2 hours just to get back from Chino yesterday! There was also another fire in the hills of Pomona at the same time. I saw 4 helo's and 1 fixed wing dumping on it.

Today, just getting down to Rancho Calif. Rd. was a nightmare; all southbound lanes were backed up due to a fire in south . DIC reading 215 engine, 108 person.

What's wrong with this picture? :confused:

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread...:D

Mike,I like this lower grill and Iwould buy it if you had one for sale. Thanks Joe

You get your AC fixed Mike?

Still waiting on parts...:red: (hot!)

Still waiting on parts...:red: (hot!)

Sorry to hear that. You going to have it fixed before your trip out here to Williams? At least it wont be over 100 up there.

Going in tomorrow morning at 7am.

Hopefully it will be "Ice, Ice, Baby!" by tomorrow night! :thumb:

UPDATE: I'm cool again. New condenser, new lines (per the TSB fix), and fresh R134 blowin' chilly-willy silly on me! I printed out the GM-Parts Direct pricing on the condenser and my dealer matched it (saved me $70), and only had to pay R&R labor on the condenser, everything else was warranty work.

Still, I'm out a WAD of cash!

Time to go install my Mr. Bumpstops lower grille now...

That's great Mike. Sorry to hear about the wad of cash though. :eek:

Looking forward to seeing Mr. Bumpstops grille on HHR 1. :smile:

Help me understand this. How could any of that repair have cost you anything out of pocket? Is there no warranty on it? I'm thinking about buying an HHR but if GM quality leaves you with hot air...I don't know.

Great News Mike, Now you can ""CHILL" again. I did my lower grille the other day. Took a total of 10 minutes and look's good. Will post picture's once My third Brake overlay arrive's.

I understand why "road damage" wouldn't be covered, but shouldn't the comp. on your auto insur. have covered it, just like it would a windsheild?

We've got a $100 deductable just for this reason.

I understand why "road damage" wouldn't be covered, but shouldn't the comp. on your auto insur. have covered it, just like it would a windsheild?

We've got a $100 deductable just for this reason.

Yes, this could be covered by a persons automobile insurance. However, many peoply carry deductibles higher than $100. I carry $500 deductible on both comprehensive and collision, as I'm sure Mike probably does at well. This keeps the insurance rates at a reasonable level for me here in Denver, where insurance rates are much higher, as I'm sure they are in California as well. I personally carry the higher deductibles to cover catastrophic losses rather than what I consider nickel and dime stuff. Don't get me wrong...I'm not made out of money by any means, I'm just willing to roll the dice.

I was in the insurance business for nearly 15 years, 8 of those as an Office Manager for an American Family agent and 5 of those being a Commercial Automobile Insurance Underwriter. Having said that, I can tell you that many people elected to carry lower comprehensive deductibles like you stated above and for the same reason. From personal experience, in both the Personal & Commercial side of the business, I saw many times where insurance was cancelled or non-renewed due to excessive comprehensive insurance claims or what some in the industry call "nuisance claims". While I don't necessarily agree with this practice, it happens...and a lot more than people realize.

Ya might wanna check with your agent......ours had $500/500 also, talked to our agent and for about $50/6 mon. we were able to drop ours to 100/250.

Considering HHR's windshields are getting a bad rap and after what happend to Mike, that's not much. $900...wow, more than I want to do in one pop!

If either happens we won't be out $900! It would take 9 years of the higher payment to get there so it was a no-brainer fo us. We've got State Farm btw.

My dealer threw in an insurance deductible waiver for collison and comp up to $500, when I bought my HHR. After a claim and repair, for $59.95 I can buy the waiver again and so on after each repair claim. Catch is of course that I have to bring it to the dealer for the repairs and for sure the insurance company is paying for it but at least I am not and the most I will be out of pocket is the $59.95 if and when I ever need an insurance repair done. :thumb:

I am looking for a set of 18" rims and tires for my 06' HHR 1LT. What is the bolt pattern and where should I look for rims and tires for a good price?

I am looking for a set of wheels for my HHR. What is the bolt pattern and where should I look for rims.
5-110 - +42 offset on stock wheels.

:welcome: to chevyhhr.net...where the search engine is your friend ;) I try to read all posts on each thread, so I happened to catch this. Please feel free to introduce yourself on the general board so we can learn more about you and your HHR. :smile:

I am looking for a set of 18" rims and tires for my 06' HHR 1LT. What is the bolt pattern and where should I look for rims and tires for a good price?

Welcome, and I think you may have posted in the wrong area.

This (http://chevyhhr.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6) is where you should ask, many answers will be found grasshopper!!:D