View Full Version : A/C problem or not?


Alzonie
07-21-2006, 09:33 PM
:cool: On all the vehicles I've owned over the last dozen years or so whenever the A/C has been running and you stop and park somewhere, condensate drains out on the ground for a minute or so. I've don't think I've ever seen anything draining from the HHR.:confused: Has anyone else noticed (Or NOT noticed) this?:frown: I'm wondering if a drain line is plugged up somewhere?:( Other than that (and the whine) the A/C works fine!
We sure needed it today! 118 degrees in Phoenix!:scared:

HHR PNOY
07-21-2006, 09:36 PM
no drain here.

captain howdy
07-21-2006, 09:39 PM
I caught my HHR peeing once. :rof: But I couldn't tell you if it drained out of a line or just condensation dripping though. :confused:

SoCalHHR
07-21-2006, 09:41 PM
Mine pees. Regularly.

Firewatcher
07-21-2006, 09:59 PM
Mine peed fine today

Pizzaman
07-21-2006, 10:01 PM
mine was leaking earlier. rather it was peeing earlier.:D

courthousedeb
07-21-2006, 10:02 PM
Mine pees. Regularly.
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Just kidding. :rof: :rof: :rof:
No problems here. :thumb:

TX-HHR
07-21-2006, 10:24 PM
I caught my HHR peeing once. :rof: But I couldn't tell you if it drained out of a line or just condensation dripping though. :confused:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the condensate drain is located on the firewall. At least I hope that's what it is. :roll: if not I've got another leak to get checked out.

Alzonie
07-22-2006, 10:43 AM
:smile: I'll have to go out and check for sure as soon as the Wife gets home from work this afternoon. I even called the Service Rep at my local Chevy Dealer (This guy drives an HHR too:thumb:) and asked him about it.
He said he never really paid any particular attention to it, but didn't recall seeing any drainage either. He told me he'd try to remember to look after he went home last night and give me a call.:lol: I haven't heard anything from him, naturally!!

SIHHR
07-22-2006, 10:47 AM
I think its normal. But as long as the car is still under warranty then it cant hurt to bring it in.

Alzonie
07-22-2006, 12:35 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the condensate drain is located on the firewall. At least I hope that's what it is. :roll: if not I've got another leak to get checked out.

:cool: I think you're probably right about the firewall location. That seems about where it drains from on other cars I've had.;)
I guess if I don't see any sign of draining I'd better get it checked out. If there's stagnant water sitting in there someplace that wouldn't be healthy!
Ugly Green stuff might start growing.:scared: (And I don't mean Broccoli)
Poor little HHR might need a "Cystoscopy"!! OUCH!!:eek:

Firewatcher
07-22-2006, 12:41 PM
Cystoscopy! Ouch is right! The drain appears to be on the passenger side firewall. I can't see in there that well, but appears to be "the" spot.

Alzonie
07-22-2006, 06:55 PM
:smile: I'll have to go out and check for sure as soon as the Wife gets home from work this afternoon. I even called the Service Rep at my local Chevy Dealer (This guy drives an HHR too:thumb:) and asked him about it.
He said he never really paid any particular attention to it, but didn't recall seeing any drainage either. He told me he'd try to remember to look after he went home last night and give me a call.:lol: I haven't heard anything from him, naturally!!

:( Well, I checked!! Not a drop of water did I see :confused: Guess I'd better get that looked into next week:roll: !!

JimZ_HHR
07-22-2006, 06:57 PM
Mine started peeing as soon as i started it up this morning with the AC running... and in this heat... peeing all over town LOL

Alzonie
07-23-2006, 01:09 AM
Mine started peeing as soon as i started it up this morning with the AC running... and in this heat... peeing all over town LOL
I figure that's the way it should be. Dripping out all the time and leaving a little puddle wherever you stop for a minute or so.
Wonder if this has anything to do with the sloshing sound up front that I've read about some people having ??

ng8650
07-23-2006, 01:18 AM
I'm trying to house train mine :D I caught my HHR peeing in the garage :lol:

Ng

cvrogershhr
07-23-2006, 04:01 AM
My HHR does it's thing when hot outside,humid with A/C on. Leaves a trail down the driveway when backing out, soo, it does as designed. Pee's like the Astro, the Monte, the Impala, and all others. Hate it when it can't pee, makes a mess.(really):lol:

jerrbear
07-23-2006, 06:21 AM
I'm trying to house train mine :D I caught my HHR peeing in the garage :lol:

Ng
:lol: :lol: :lol: YES MINE PEE'S IN THE GARAGE NIGHTLY AFTER THE DRIVE HOME FROM WORK. :lol: THE DRAIN TUBE IS LOCATED ON ThE BOTTOM PART OF THE FIREWALL PASSENGER SIDE. :thumb:

TomsHHR
07-23-2006, 07:48 AM
When you need to water the lawn just park it in the grass...

courthousedeb
07-23-2006, 08:53 AM
When you need to water the lawn just park it in the grass...
:laughabov :rof: :rof: :laughabov
Now that has to be one of the funniest posts on this whole thread. That and the one about house training the HHR. :lol:

Alzonie
07-23-2006, 02:30 PM
I'm trying to house train mine :D I caught my HHR peeing in the garage :lol:

Ng
At least put a litter box out there!:banana:

Alzonie
07-23-2006, 09:41 PM
:D I can't recall seeing anyone in the Forum mentioning this particular problem, but there is a TSB referring to it.:confused:. I'm wondering if there might be some connection between this and those of us with "Non-peeing":roll:HHRs?

Air Conditioning - Water Leaks Onto Passenger Front Floor
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-M...016/index.html

My Wife hasn't mentioned seeing this, but most of her trips are short (10 miles or less) and maybe it's something that needs more time for water to build up in there, somewhere, before it might leak or blow out from the vents?
I'm going to refer the Service Advisor to this TSB when we take the car in, probably early Friday when we can leave it all day. That'll give them half a day to ignore it !!:lol:

Alzonie
07-23-2006, 09:54 PM
:D I can't recall seeing anyone in the Forum mentioning this particular problem, but there is a TSB referring to it.:confused:. I'm wondering if there might be some connection between this and those of us with "Non-peeing":roll:HHRs?

Air Conditioning - Water Leaks Onto Passenger Front Floor
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-M...016/index.html

My Wife hasn't mentioned seeing this, but most of her trips are short (10 miles or less) and maybe it's something that needs more time for water to build up in there, somewhere, before it might leak or blow out from the vents?
I'm going to refer the Service Advisor to this TSB when we take the car in, probably early Friday when we can leave it all day. That'll give them half a day to ignore it !!:lol:


I guess you'll have to check out this TSB on the complete list of them on the sticky on "Problems/Service Issues" It wouldn't open from my posting above?

BlackHHR
07-23-2006, 10:50 PM
No peeing here. THen again I only use mine for 5 to 10 min's. I run it till the air gets cold then recirculate it with the A/C off. THe air will stay cold for about 2 to 3 hours, but I don't live in the hottest part of the world.

dbarberaz
07-23-2006, 11:05 PM
I have not noticed any myself. I do not run the A/C much. Even in Arizona I run the recirculate air with the A/C off and it does stay cool. I only run the A/C for about 5 minutes, when I first get in the car.
I also have never seen a water build up on the floor. Maybe I will run the A/C Monday on my way home from work and see if my drive gets wet. :eek:

GDZHHR
07-23-2006, 11:26 PM
I have not noticed any myself. I do not run the A/C much. Even in Arizona I run the recirculate air with the A/C off and it does stay cool. I only run the A/C for about 5 minutes, when I first get in the car.
I also have never seen a water build up on the floor. Maybe I will run the A/C Monday on my way home from work and see if my drive gets wet. :eek:

Unless you have the vent set to either defrost or floor only, you are running your a/c.:smile:

That's why its cool air!;)

dbarberaz
07-24-2006, 12:13 AM
Unless you have the vent set to either defrost or floor only, you are running your a/c.:smile:

That's why its cool air!;)


Then who has the problem? :lol: Those that pee or those who do not? :confused:
I do know that you are still running the A/C, what I was going to watch is see if there is a diffrence.

nfboy
07-24-2006, 09:22 AM
Unless you have the vent set to either defrost or floor only, you are running your a/c.:smile:

That's why its cool air!;)

Not necessarily true. The A/C must be turned on. What position the circulation button is in makes no difference (vent, defrost, floor or some combo). Push the centre of your temp button and that turns the A/C on or off (yellow light shows on or off).

SoCalHHR
07-24-2006, 01:19 PM
Whenever the controls are set to "recirc" the A/C compressor is on.

Even when the A/C light is off, the A/C is still on (and compressor is running), in recirc mode.

We've been through this several times on this forum...

Alzonie
07-24-2006, 02:09 PM
[QUOTE=dbarberaz]Then who has the problem? :lol: Those that pee or those who do not? :confused:


That's what I'm wondering:confused: Has anyone ever had moisture blowing out of the vents, or water leaking on the pass. side floor from under the dash? :cry: Evidently there is some kind of problem since Chevy has a TSB referring to it. :roll:

SoCalHHR
07-24-2006, 02:12 PM
My only peeing is on the floor (or ground, which is normal), none inside the vehicle. :thumb:

nfboy
07-24-2006, 08:42 PM
Whenever the controls are set to "recirc" the A/C compressor is on.

Even when the A/C light is off, the A/C is still on (and compressor is running), in recirc mode.

We've been through this several times on this forum...

I stand corrected. Just read this in the manual. Recirc on others cars I have had did not activate the A/C, unless of course A/C was on.

GDZHHR
07-24-2006, 08:47 PM
It is confusing. GM has been doing it for a few years. We could never figure out why my wife's Olds Alero stayed cool in the summer without ever having to use the a/c!

dbarberaz
07-24-2006, 11:00 PM
Mine does not Pee on the floor :D. Guess I am not sure if that is good or bad.

As a recap, I only run my A/C "on" for a few minutes after I start the car. From that point on I just use the recirc air with the A/C "off". YES I know the air is still running.
Today I ran the A/C "on" all the way home. There was no HHR pee on my floor.
So I guess we are back to the question of "Should your HHR pee"? :lol: No matter how I ran mine it so I am :confused: but as long as I have no problems I will be glad I have no pee on my floor.

GDZHHR
07-24-2006, 11:08 PM
I don't know if this would have anything to do with your lack of pee....but I just noticed you live in AZ.

Been a long time since I was there but I don't remember much humidity.

Do you think this might limit your pee?

dbarberaz
07-24-2006, 11:10 PM
I don't know if this would have anything to do with your lack of pee....but I just noticed you live in AZ.

Been a long time since I was there but I don't remember much humidity.

Do you think this might limit your pee?

You know after I made that post I was thinking maybe the same thing, but I think someone else from Az said he does pee.

Now my pee is fine, just the HHR doesnt pee :nuts: :lol:

john 11
07-25-2006, 01:01 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the condensate drain is located on the firewall. At least I hope that's what it is. :roll: if not I've got another leak to get checked out.

Since I put on my CGS Air Intake, I can clearly see the AC Drain line on the passengers side of the firewall. Since everyone is always so helpful to me I went out and took a picture so you know what to look for. It is very difficult to see if you have the stock air filter. Mine drips often in the Charlotte humidity. :D

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/9/3/0/CloseupofACDrain.JPG

Alzonie
07-25-2006, 04:15 PM
:cool: Thanks for that picture!:bow: At least I know about where to look now. "Coachpete" is getting new carpets because his A/C leaked on the passenger side floor. So there must be a connection between "Non-Peeing" HHRs and the problem he's had. The dealer found a pinched A/C drain on his!:roll: And yes, we do have some humidity in the Phoenix area, especially in July and August:( . Nothing like some other parts of the Country, but more than enough to cause A/C draining from both vehicles and homes.:bye:

dbarberaz
07-25-2006, 04:21 PM
Guess I will check mine tonight and see if it looks funny. I have had no problems with water on the carpet so far

WA_HHR
07-25-2006, 11:03 PM
Since I put on my CGS Air Intake, I can clearly see the AC Drain line on the passengers side of the firewall. Since everyone is always so helpful to me I went out and took a picture so you know what to look for. It is very difficult to see if you have the stock air filter. Mine drips often in the Charlotte humidity. :D

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/9/3/0/CloseupofACDrain.JPG

I have used your picture and checked big "victory red" out. After sitting with ac "on" and in recirculate, fan on "high", nothing!!!! he doesn't pee outside or inside as far as I can tell!!! carpets dry, ground and little tube is dry..... off to dealer we go tomorrow.....:confused: :confused:

SoCalHHR
07-26-2006, 12:20 AM
WA HHR - Just a head's up; you shouldn't see much "peeing" unless you're having high humidity right now.

Firewatcher
07-26-2006, 08:26 AM
Speaking of A/C, hey Mike, what ever happened with your condensor.....the ultimate outcome....I don't remember seeing a post on that :confused:

Alzonie
07-26-2006, 11:51 AM
Guess I will check mine tonight and see if it looks funny. I have had no problems with water on the carpet so far

:smile: We haven't had any leak inside yet, and I don't want one to start either!! We're taking the HHR to the dealer Friday so they can check out the No-Draining problem (Re: The TSB) and the fact they found a pinched drain on Coachpete's car:confused:. I wonder where exactly it was pinched? Doesn't seem to be much of it showing outside the firewall:roll: .
On the Ariz. humidity thing: We got over 3 1/2 in of rain here last night! We're in a low area in a Mobile Home Park and our carport has about 4 in. of water standing in it even now at 8:45 AM! It appears that at some point it was 8 or 9in. high. It has leaked about that much into our storage room and Arizona Room too. Boy, were gonna have a mess to clean up! And to paraphrase: "My God !! The Humidity!!:eek:

SoCalHHR
07-26-2006, 05:36 PM
Speaking of A/C, hey Mike, what ever happened with your condensor.....the ultimate outcome....I don't remember seeing a post on that :confused:

Pay the man. $800. Thank you. :mad:

Now I have my lower grille installed to prevent that from happening again!

Alzonie
07-29-2006, 02:40 PM
:D Well, here's the story I got from the Dealer's Service Dep't yesterday on our "non-peeing" HHR .. Service Rep said they put it up on the rack to check it out and it seems it is draining properly, but it drips onto the steering rack, runs along the rack to the left side, then drops onto the hot exhaust pipe and evaporates!:roll: Now I can't verify this 'cause we had left the car with them and went on our way. The guy said possibly if we parked on a slight upgrade or downgrade the draining water might miss hitting the rack just enough to fall straight on the ground.:confused: I don't know whether to buy this or not, but at least it's on record now in case some furthur problem pops up with the A/C.:bye: