View Full Version : Hope Is Fading, Fast!


Rolyat1955
10-05-2006, 10:35 PM
I am a fairly new person here. Met alot of nice people and was made to feel very welcome. For the last week I have been trying to figure out what's happened here. People are so rude to each other, it's gotta be this way, or that way. and rules, rules, rules. This is a forum site so I guess it's make up the rules as we go along to suit our purpose.

There is a run coming up in just over 2 weeks. I am almost to the point that I have no desire to be with people who can't even be nice to each other on a website.

If I had just bought my HHR (MY main reason for being here in the first place) and came to this site and went to this Mid-Central region, I would turn around and run as fast as I could the other way. Why would ANYONE in their right mind want to have anything at all to do with a bunch of people that can't act their age? My daughter teaches 1st graders that have more respect for each other than the so called adults posting here.

If things don't get turned around, I suggest this run be cancelled until people can grow up. This is getting very old, nice one day, rude as heck the next.

Life is way, way too short people. And you only get to go around it once, so you need to make the most of it. Like someone said before, it's only a car. I just want to have good fun, good food and good company. I can do that on my own~

Take care buds~to those I've met, love ya all and to those I haven't met~maybe it'll happen, but I doubt it!

DJNateGnau
10-05-2006, 10:41 PM
I hear that... I'm checkin' out for a couple weeks. See ya'll later. :)

SindyDix
10-05-2006, 10:47 PM
Is it something in your water in Mid Central?

I too wished you guys could get things worked out.

GDZHHR
10-05-2006, 10:50 PM
I understand how you feel. As soon as the dust settles, something else happens.

I don't know what the problem is and it doesn't matter anymore.

I'd like to share a bit of something I read today.

Someone breaks into our new car and steals the stereo, or the person we're in the relationship with becomes unfaithful. Right away, we feel victimized. "Where's the justice?" we wail. But if we take a look back on our own behavior, we may find that we've been guilty of what's just been done to us. We realize we wouldn't really want justice - not for ourselves, and not for others. What we want is mercy.

Black Beauty
10-05-2006, 10:50 PM
I hear you say you want to have a good time, with good people,but what makes those things good are the principles of GOOD.
The R.O.T.M. thread was going GOOD until it was corrupted. When you want to have fun so bad, or you want to meet people so bad, that you`ll do anything, well that`s not good.
Theres always this comparision to schoolchildren people like to use, seems to make them feel more adult, but the truth is ,some people never learned right from wrong as kids, and live their life accordingly as adults.

oldschoolfreak
10-05-2006, 10:53 PM
could be to many stong headed personalities but fear not the 21st will still happen even if i am the only one there!:(

I would like to publicly apologize to Mike and BB wasnt triing to attack any one or cause a problem but i guess i was just as much at fault!! my bad! some times i do get a little carried away!!

Rolyat1955
10-05-2006, 10:57 PM
I hear you say you want to have a good time, with good people,but what makes those things good are the principles of GOOD.
The R.O.T.M. thread was going GOOD until it was corrupted. When you want to have fun so bad, or you want to meet people so bad, that you`ll do anything, well that`s not good.
Theres always this comparision to schoolchildren people like to use, seems to make them feel more adult, but the truth is ,some people never learned right from wrong as kids, and live their life accordingly as adults.

I used the comparison to school children because it's the truth BB! Kids show more respect for each other than the adults here have shown. If you feel that I used that comparison to make myself feel more adult, than that's your privalege and opinion. I know what's right from wrong, I may not always act that way and when I feel I've been wrong, I'm adult enough to own up to it.

Black Beauty
10-05-2006, 11:01 PM
Sindy,Theres really no one thing wrong, just a lot of denial. People don`t want to make ADULT decisions, just want to have FUN.

SindyDix
10-05-2006, 11:02 PM
I hope we're on the way to healing here. I really don't want to end up locking another thread.

Firewatcher
10-05-2006, 11:03 PM
Don't give up the ship! (and I was never in the Navy :lol: )

Black Beauty
10-05-2006, 11:04 PM
I think it was wrong for the R.O.T.M. to have been invaded, some thought it was a GOOD thing.
What do you think...?

Black Beauty
10-05-2006, 11:16 PM
Oh well, Holla at you guys/gals tommorow. Guess you have to sleep on it . Good and Bad are such complicated theories.

Black Beauty
10-05-2006, 11:22 PM
Isn`t IA ,IOWA

GDZHHR
10-05-2006, 11:24 PM
Isn`t IA ,IOWA

OOOPS!!

That's what I get for listening to the wife!!

nevermind

Black Beauty
10-05-2006, 11:26 PM
Man you want to be WRONG too bad.

GDZHHR
10-05-2006, 11:28 PM
Man you want to be WRONG too bad.

Nope, just willing to admit it when I am. Thought I was but I wasn't. No harm, no foul.;)

Pizzaman
10-05-2006, 11:30 PM
id did not enter the rotm because I was too busy with my stepfather and other bits of life. I had felt as much a member of the mid-central as any other. ( I as most of you know live in IND.) My region wasn't looking like anyone wanted to do any get togethers or runs. I was welcomed as a member of the mid central by many of the members at the august run. Due to life appening on the oct date of our next gtg, i will not be able to attend. (erin's 9th birthday) I personally thought that i would have been welcomed to participate in the rotm if I had been wanting to do so. I want to be involved in a good fun region. right now we have neither. If ANYof the members of this region does not want my participation, so be it. I feel that this region needs to be a little more accepting to nearby members or other HHR owners who live near the region like myself. I was drawn here by the good people. maybe those good people will realize when they may be wrong about somethings. I am wrong all of the time. I can admit it. Cecil

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 06:44 AM
Pizzaman, It seems that the concept of you can "visit" vs "you live here" is whats lost in all the rheotoric.
I can invite you over for a weinnie roast, we can have a good time, but at the end of the day, you`ve got to go home, you`re not sleeping in my bed.
If you say ,But I`m too tired or But you beds so nice and soft, or it`s big enough for all of us, I don`t want you to be my friend SO BAD ,that I`m gonna let you stay. Apparently, there are members who would grab their pillow and go sleep on the couch. Not B/B

Pizzaman
10-06-2006, 07:04 AM
my problem is... why do we have to exclude the people who are active in the region, but may live over the "line" that was thrown together. the 3 closest states to chicago are in 3 different regions. i am sure that jonyyb never intended to have the borders so strictly enforced. hell in the region indiana is in parts of it are nearly double the mileage from me as is the mid central. I don't get this.... :confused:

Rolyat1955
10-06-2006, 07:11 AM
I hope we're on the way to healing here. I really don't want to end up locking another thread.

I hope we're on our way to healing also. In just reading over everything, I have come to the conclusion that it appears that some people in our "Mid-Central" region want to make sure that the boundry lines drawn up are strictly enforced! We have quite a few people who want to be involved in all the activities done in this region, but because they are over the "line" drawn up by the creators of this site, some people who live in this same region, do not want them! For the people who want to be involved, this region is closer and more atractive and easier for them to get too.

I just want to have everyone get along! My mom always told me, If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!

Thanks for the concern Sindy!

Z-Man
10-06-2006, 07:15 AM
I used the comparison to school children because it's the truth BB! Kids show more respect for each other than the adults here have shown. If you feel that I used that comparison to make myself feel more adult, than that's your privalege and opinion. I know what's right from wrong, I may not always act that way and when I feel I've been wrong, I'm adult enough to own up to it.


Well the Backwords & Upside down Taylors Good morning. i would like to take this time to say that you are not wrong in what you say. I am the fault of this because I fail to go by the rules. The reason is this I stated on the 22nd of July 2006 that I enjoyed my self very much because I met a new family
and I stated then I would like to see us all spend a weekend together so I can enjoy the time getting to know and learn more about my new family and friens and every one there said YES thats a good Idea and we can get hhr owners from all over to attend and we can have a great time. I guess because I would like to just have a good time with my friends and at the same time spend time with my daughters I did not think this would be a Big deal. well after every one stated that I had a Great Idea and we all started to plan this next get together the S--- hit the fan just because I or we did not follow the rules that were made up. If you read the rules on this site it does not say anything about some one from another state coming to our region and taking part in our region events no matter what. So I am very sorry . but I guess I started it. Please for give me. All I wanted was Friends, Family and may-be a good few fun weekends. I can not belive this is happening to me this time in my life. I will go on the 21st because my Friend OLDSCHOOL SAID HE WILL BE THERE EVEN IF HE IS THE ONLY ONE THERE.
I will not let that happen at least the 2 of us will be there and at least I can talk to him about the day I met some very new and close friends and ask him
where did I go wrong. Once again I am very sorry. I am a Man and when I am wrong I will let you know, So I am informing you that I guess I was the one who started it. No one really wants to tell me but by what I have seen in the threads I know its me. Good by and I will see who ever come on the 21st and if any one wants to put me in my place for not following the rules that were made up by I don't know who they can see me on the 21st.

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 07:17 AM
I don`t think the JHONNYB took in consideration where Chicago was when the regions were formed.
I know that Indianapolis is in your region, why wasn`t it the focal point of our region, The Motorsports Capital of the World?
We like to see you visit and so forth, but, You want to belong so bad that you throw all reasoning out the window.

Pizzaman
10-06-2006, 07:22 AM
that has been my point all night, the regions could never have been made to have rigid borders. hell, one guy in AK isn't even in a region in his own country.

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 07:30 AM
I have`nt got a clue what you just said, A guy in Ak doesn`t WHAT?:confused:

Pizzaman
10-06-2006, 07:38 AM
all of the regions on here were not in jonyyb's mind when he set them up. there is a member in AK who is in a region with only canadians, he feels like he was traded to another country.:lol:

Pizzaman
10-06-2006, 07:43 AM
What i truly do not understand is why B/B and mike are so afraid of the members that are actively participating in the region but live over a misplaced border. Why? What is the motivation? Friends don't piss off friends they help them.

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 07:44 AM
I`ve never heard anything about someone feeling he`s been traded. And what BORDERS are you talking about, I don`t think our Founding Fathers intended on having any BORDERS or RULES.
Hey, I`ve got to go to work, one of those nasty little rules. Holla B/B

Pizzaman
10-06-2006, 07:54 AM
I`ve never heard anything about someone feeling he`s been traded. And what BORDERS are you talking about, I don`t think our Founding Fathers intended on having any BORDERS or RULES.
Hey, I`ve got to go to work, one of those nasty little rules. Holla B/B
Our founding father sure did intend on having rules. They are called the Bill of rights and the constitution. the border i am talking about is the state line of in/il.The border that you don't want some of us to cross to be included in this region. if you want to check the Ak hhr guy, just look for AK or alaska in the regions to know what I am talking about.

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 07:21 PM
What i truly do not understand is why B/B and mike are so afraid of the members that are actively participating in the region but live over a misplaced border. Why? What is the motivation? Friends don't piss off friends they help them.
Hey people, I don`t know about you, but I don`t consider some one I`ve met a couple hours, or chatted with on a computer about this or that , to be my FRIEND.
A friend is some one you can go to in time of need, some one who`s been there for you, some one who has common interests and ideas, not some one who buys the same kind of veh. and may or may not talk on-line. What part of friend are you attaching this to? I`ve got (1) Male friend, ( 1) Female friend, My WIFE.
If my male friend doesn`t like my female friend oh well, If my female friend doesn`t like my male friend, GOOD BYE MALE FRIEND...
I`ve known both about 35 yrs, not an afternoon at some ones house warming, and we don`t agree on every thing, that`s unrealistic.
But these are examples of what I consider FRIENDS. Not someone who I just met, who agrees with me always, who have a HHR, You guys are just people I`ve crossed paths with, I`m not your FRIEND.

Rolyat1955
10-06-2006, 08:49 PM
Hey people, I don`t know about you, but I don`t consider some one I`ve met a couple hours, or chatted with on a computer about this or that , to be my FRIEND.
A friend is some one you can go to in time of need, some one who`s been there for you, some one who has common interests and ideas, not some one who buys the same kind of veh. and may or may not talk on-line. What part of friend are you attaching this to? I`ve got (1) Male friend, ( 1) Female friend, My WIFE.
If my male friend doesn`t like my female friend oh well, If my female friend doesn`t like my male friend, GOOD BYE MALE FRIEND...
I`ve known both about 35 yrs, not an afternoon at some ones house warming, and we don`t agree on every thing, that`s unrealistic.
But these are examples of what I consider FRIENDS. Not someone who I just met, who agrees with me always, who have a HHR, You guys are just people I`ve crossed paths with, I`m not your FRIEND.

Then I feel very sorry for you BB. Friends are people who do have things in common: such as our HHR's. That is a common interest! Ideas-modding our HHR's. I guess I just have an easier time opening my heart and my mind to others. I only went to a house warming too, but was made to feel welcome. Fortunately for you, since we are not your FRIEND'S, you have the option of not having anything to do with anyone here. That's YOUR choice as it is to anyone here!

I've never lied to anyone in my life, it's not my style. I did enjoy meeting you and was looking forward to seeing you again, but since I'm not your friend, that probability is next to none.

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 08:59 PM
That`s only because you think any one you meet in an HHR is your friend. I don`t make friends in 3 hours, those are acquaintances.

Rolyat1955
10-06-2006, 09:04 PM
Everyone I meet is my friend, always has been that way and always will be. Until they show me otherwise, that's the way my life goes BB. Sorry it doesn't conform to what you believe. That's the beauty of life.

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 09:08 PM
If every one is your friend, then no one is your friend... Better tell Robert, He`s just another GUY...

SindyDix
10-06-2006, 09:10 PM
If I decide to drive across country to participate in one of your G2G's, your gonna turn me away?

It is my impression that the idea of the region sections catagories of this web site are so those in common areas can have a central location to post for local events. Just makes it easier to locate data quickly in such a big forum.

I'm watching all region threads for G2G (get togethers) lately because I want to make an HHR vacation road trip coming up here soon. Hopefully something is happening during my 2 week vacation at the very begining of the year.
I wouldl love to meet new HHR friends all over the USA and have fun!

Since when did this 'branch' have it's own set of 'rules' here? That's what other sites are for. For ChevyHHR.net, they are what they are. I never seen any 'sub' guidelines here anywhere.

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 09:18 PM
The R.O.T.M. was a requested activity and ok`d by ADM.

SindyDix
10-06-2006, 09:20 PM
Here is a great example from another Moderator (SIHHR ):
In the North East section/region.
Atlantic City Cruise Spring of 2007 (All states are welcomed)

That's regional, and all are welcomed! Now that's mighty friendly!

SindyDix
10-06-2006, 09:30 PM
The R.O.T.M. was a requested activity and ok`d by ADM.
I diden't think ROTM is what this thread was about if I read it's title correctly.

My apologies! :bow:

Black Beauty
10-06-2006, 09:31 PM
Sindy, We tried to have a simple RIDE of the MONTH contest, real simple. Last month good showing, fun, compo, good attitudes, FUN.
This attempt, Hi-Jacked... Guy from another region , jumps in, actually says he knows he`s wrong ,but what the heck, people get hot under the collar when the mere mention of rules comes up, and the rest is history