Well here's a brief step by step on how to install Factory Fogs on an HHR. First off I should point out you will not save any money by doing it yourself. But in my case most of the Black HHRs in my area were in the 22K-24K range. I found one Black HHR that had everthing I wanted except for the Fogs for 19K. This is not the easiest mod you'll make but it can be done by someone with a reasonable amount of auto electrical experiance. I'm assuming that you have some experience working on cars so I'm only highlighting the area that made me think. Also I can only garrentee that the following worked on MY HHR. Yours could be different.

The dealer charged me $90 to reprogram my BCM. Learn from my mistakes and discuss cost before work is done. Not having any info on if or how to enable them put me at a disadvantage. I'm passing the knowledge on to you...use it.

NOTE: Based on feed back from others the LS BCM can not be re-programmed, you will have to get a LT BCM which is exspenssive. 10-13-06


Needed Parts. Deal on the prices. One guy posted he got the fogs for $57
15813308 Lamp (left?) List $78.75
15813307 Lamp (right?) List $78.75
21992589 F-Switch List $29.33
88891787 magnetic oil drain plug. List $3.51 (optional)
10121502 plastic retainer List $.38
Two male bulb connector, Local junk yard or Walmart

There are two keyed types of connectors for this style bulb (9104) has 2 keyed tab. Bring your bulb with when looking for the connectors. The 9104 bulb is 37 watts. Looks like if you drilled out the center hole in the Fogs to 7/8" you could use a 55watt 9006 bulb.

You literaly snap the lamp assemblies into the Front Bumper cover. Simply remove the retainers on the inner wheel well cover to access the fog lamp area behind the bumper. Unsnap the plugs and snap in the lamps. I don't have an after photo, but frame ground one wire and hook the other to the wire from the relay out found later in this post. Use heatshrink and solder connection, moisture could be a problem in this area...no short cuts.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/3/2/6/fog_11.JPG

Disconnect Battery !!!!!
Also disconnect main 12 volt leads from Battary and to Starter next to fuse box under red Plastic cap.
Remove top of Fuse box from mount by releaseing 6 snap tabs like the one circled below.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/3/2/6/fog_10.JPG


Loosen 4 bolts like the two circled in blue to release the 4 connector that plug into the bottom of the fuse box. FYI on the relay socket pin out
Green: Ground for Relay Coil and Fog out (optional can frame ground at light assembly)
Purple: Fused 12 v from fuse just above it, (No connection made)
Red: +12v Output from relay to fogs (this is the one you need to remember)
White: 12v to relay coil from BCM (no connection made)

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/3/2/6/fog_13.JPG


Fuse box flipped over and connector exposed

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/3/2/6/fog_15.JPG


You should have zero ohms between the pins circled and there corrosponding pins on the relay socket. I didn't have the correct connector pin, but as you an see I did have a small male spade connector that worked perfect. (picture was taken while testing. I did not use the ground and 12v output is not connected until after the connector has been reinstalled).

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/3/2/6/fog_17.JPG



I inserted the wire from the previous picture into the position identified by the red arrow. Forgot to take a picture though. Double check end of wire with Ohm meter to Relay socket pin for final check. It should read Zero Ohms.


http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/3/2/6/fog_18.JPG



Pop open the Radio panel from the TOP and you'll find the wiring harness for the switch. Just snap in and plug it in.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/3/2/6/fog_23.JPG

Re assemble everything and take it to your dealer to get the BCM programmed for fog lights

Good Luck :beer:

Mine's an LT1. It had the wiring from the switch to the BCM. But no wirinig from the fuse box to the fogs. I had to run a wire form the relay pin to the fogs. If you have the relay/fuse you could use the fog lamp circuit to run non factory fogs or other lights like running board light ect. The circuit is disable when using Hi beams.

After programming the BCM the green Fog indicator under the Speedo works just like the factory HHR with fogs.

The manual only shows one type of Fuse box under the hood so I would guess you have the Relay and Fuse already installed.

Wow. If you had the dealer install it? How much would of it been? I'm glad my 2LT came with fog's after seeing those pictures

It's really not that hard to do. It took me about 2 hours. Figure I could cut that time in half now that I have the needed info on the factory wiring. It's a lot easier than some of the stereos I've done in the past. Still looking at about $90/hr? at the dealer.

Bottom line I don't like the looks of the dummy plugs at all, and I couldn't see paying and extra 3-4k for stuff I didn't want just to get fogs to fill in the holes.

So what's going to be your next project for the car?

Lowered, Rims and Tires once the snow melts and an Amp for the rear door speakers. Since its my daily driver that will be about it for 4-5 years

After that it will be Converted to V8 RWD, Tubbed, Tube Frame, Roll Cage everything need to run S/P, S/G. I've built two other race cars from the ground up. I had a 94 Grand Am GT (the first new car I ever bought) that I was just getting ready to convert when it got totaled on my way home form work (I was really bummed). I built a BBC Vega instead. It makes sense from a racing stand point (676hp on a 2600lb car). But its not the same, I've always wanted a racecar that I bought new. Nothing GM put out real cuaght my eye until the HHR came out and I knew I had to have one for future use. I can't afford to cut up a 19K car so the Vega is going to have to put in some OT. This would give you some insight as to why I did't buy a fully load HHR.

Before you roast me on the body work both of these cars came from the junk yard and we built for racing not show. I expect the HHR will have a near mint body once I break out the welder.

The Vega. Picture it black with more of a rounded front end and boxer back end and two more doors....you get the picture. :beer:
http://www.hotboat.com/image_center/data/520/679Veha_2.JPG

The first Race car I built. It not preatty but it did kick ass (1/8 mile time)
http://www.hotboat.com/image_center/data/520/679cutlass.JPG

Like I said CJ......you & me, - we gotta hook up! :thumb:

Damn that bad boy looks mean with power

Got several E-mails on this so I made a few updates. Most noticeable is that it appears from feedback that the LS BCM can not be reprogrammed so LS owner will need to purchase a LT BCM or wire fogs direct.

Any chance that you can fix the pics?

You can get GM original HHR fogs for just shy of $52 ea at
www.buy-oem-parts.com.
There was a factory change on cars built after March 06, so be sure and supply your VIN to get correct lights.
They also have the factory dash switch ($20), and the male lamp connectors.

Does anybody have a suggestion where to tap into a positive wire with the use of an aftermarket switch?

What was the change on the lights made after March 2006? I am considering getting factory OEM lights and wiring them without using the Body Control Module, as in a aftermarket set of fog lights.

Don't know what the change was, but there are TWO versions of the lights. Just give the parts supplier tHE VIN and let them figure out which you need.

Don't wire fogs directly to a switch, use a relay...they draw too much current for a direct wire.
Here's a link to relay wiring: http://defrangeautocrafts.com/howtorelay.html

I have a LS and installed OEM fogs and switch. had no problem programing BCM. HHR build date 07/04/05. A big thanks to cj for the how 2, for front harness install. install time 1.5hr thanks again to cj for leg work on pin locations ect.

anyone having problems with the curcuit breaker being lose after awhile after doing this mod, i've had to play with the curcuit break three times this month because the fog lights did not work and this just started happening

1) I would guess you have a bad connection or short and the circuit breaker is fuctioning as designed. I've never had a poblem since mod...not even a burnt out bulb.

2) Sound like the LS BCM could be reprogrammed at least on the early builds.

3) As far as the different fog types when I ordered mine they were already on the second design. The parts guy thought the only difference was how they were adjusted, The later was suppose to be a replacement for the earlier model. This is what the parts guy said so take it as an educated guess not fact.

4) Here's another post on Fogs/Switches
http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4703

HOW & where did you ground the fog lights? I have had no prob. with fogs at all after install. running silverstar in head & fogs. went with OEM cause I like the green light on dash to come on when fogs are on. when ordering my switch there was two listings FOG LAMP SWITCH & DELU FOG LAMP SWITCH don't know ? there was just two listed for HHR parts guy said he thinks delu has a pilot light ? ? ?

i grounded it to a bolt near the fog light like the how to says and if i wiggle the the curcuit breaker it come back one and off as i wiggle i turned the break a full 180 and it doesn't do it when i wiggle it any more what was happening is it would be on then the fogs would turn off with the light on the dash still on then i would stop when i had a chance pop the hood wiggle the breaker and all was right since i turned the fuse 180 all has been good may the spade i put in for the power for the fog lights has moved i'll have to wait till next weeked to check as i work nights during the week have to sleep sometime

I think you found the bad guy with the breaker get a male spade ter.end and try it in both slots to see if they are tight if they are try a new breaker hope it all good

I must be stupid. I have always considered myself to be mechanically and electrically inclined but this is a little more involved than I thought. After pulling the fuse box apart what kind of connector do you use to go in to the block for the male connector to contact with. I do not have any type that I could use. Lights are in and wire is run up to the fuse box. I will wire them some other time. The look of the lights was more important to me than the operation of them. I will need BCM reprogramming anyway. Someday.

Do all the 1LT's have the harness in place from the factory?

Do all the 1LT's have the harness in place from the factory?

If by saying harness in place from the factory, They have the harness to the fog lamp switch, the relay, fuse. It does not have a harness to the fog lamps. that is the one that you have to install. See the start of this post

I used the connector in this photo upper right and removed the insulation from the connector and soldered it to the wire.

http://installer.com/photos/vfds.jpg


I have a box full of connectors so I don't know for sure where I got it. I would check Radio Shack or local hardware store. Worst case you could order them from this site. http://www.installer.com/hardware/

I used the connector in this photo upper right and removed the insulation from the connector and soldered it to the wire.

http://installer.com/photos/vfds.jpg


I have a box full of connectors so I don't know for sure where I got it. I would check Radio Shack or local hardware store. Worst case you could order them from this site. http://www.installer.com/hardware/

I'm going to have to look for those. I tried to modify some yesterday, but nothing seemed to work. I tested the slot and it does have ign on power. Either that or my ground is not good. I grounded both to the radiator upper support. That should be a solid ground I would think.:confused:

I'm going to have to look for those. I tried to modify some yesterday, but nothing seemed to work. I tested the slot and it does have ign on power. Either that or my ground is not good. I grounded both to the radiator upper support. That should be a solid ground I would think.:confused:
It's about the smallest female type I've seen. They are often used on car speaker terminals.
And I don't think you should be connecting to the terminal that has power at "ignition on". It should be terminal 30 of the relay, which gets power ONLY when the BCM/dash switch signals the relay to close...bringing power to terminal 30 from terminal 87. Look at the diagram on the side of the relay. The terminal you want to wire the fogs to (30) is diagonal from the Hot terminal (87).

It's about the smallest female type I've seen. They are often used on car speaker terminals.
And I don't think you should be connecting to the terminal that has power at "ignition on". It should be terminal 30 of the relay, which gets power ONLY when the BCM/dash switch signals the relay to close...bringing power to terminal 30 from terminal 87. Look at the diagram on the side of the relay. The terminal you want to wire the fogs to (30) is diagonal from the Hot terminal (87).

I'm not doing a factory light install. Mine are aftermarket. But still have to tap the fuse panel.

Sorry - the thread title is "factory fog install".

And if that's the case, then skip the panel, and just find a wire that's hot when lights are on and do a T tap into that. Much simpler.

Sorry - the thread title is "factory fog install".

And if that's the case, then skip the panel, and just find a wire that's hot when lights are on and do a T tap into that. Much simpler.

Granted, but it still offers information that can be useful for others.

Tap into a ign power on souce and you can run the lights with or without any combination of lights. And not have to worry about leaving them on. Plus using an already available power source in the fuse panel eliminates any possibility of damaging the factory wiring/components.;)

It's all good.

cjuetten .Thanks for the info. I am doing a factory fogs install. I will find some connectors that small somewhere. I have loads of all types but none that small.The original how-to here did not mention any female connectors and i knew you would need that type so I was just a little confused. Thanks.

Pardon me if I sound like a dope.............have before, will again. Is there a factory harness in all the HHR's? I have a 1LT but no fogs. And, did you have to get the bulbs separate from the heads?

I'm thinking that the factory will be the best way to go (and I got a 100 dollar referral check from the dealer recently) to install them quickly, or, just get the heads for the fit and use another harness and switch to avoid the computer issue.

Mike at SoCal.....any input on this??

Thanks!

the 1lt with no fog light only have the switch harness not fog light harness you can buy the harness and swap out the harness with out the fog light connectors all i did was buyt the fog light bulb connecter and followed the how to here i think i posted the the bulb pigtail number in an early post took about 45 min to do it all the worst part was the connector in the harness

So for those that have installed the factory fogs, on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being extremely difficult, how would you rate this install?

I did it recently and it wasn't too hard, but be sure you have the right size spade connector before starting. The smallest thing that they have at the parts store will be too big. I ended up using one my cousin had which was from a computer store. It's easy enough to open up the fuse box in advance and do a little testing. I ran a single lead off the connector and out of the box, then split it into two hot leads (one for each side). Grounded to the body. I got the lamps and switch from GM Parts Direct, the wire and bulb connectors from Autozone. The dealership charged me $40 to program the BCM. To me it was well worth it.

One place I've found the tiny spade connectors is in kits for wiring auto speakers...many of them use the tiny spade connectors...particularly the cheap kits. Sometimes you can find 'em for a buck or two at radio shack or circuit city.

Nice How-to :thumb: good job

Why does the BCM need to be re-programmed after installing fogs?

Why does the BCM need to be re-programmed after installing fogs?

It won't respond to the signal from the new foglight switch.

The BCM is for your car what the BIOS is for your computer. If the car isn't equipped with certain options, those options are turned off in the BCM. If they are added later, the BCM must be reset with those options turned on.

hmmm...interesting.... is this something that only Chevy does? I installed aftermarket fogs in my Taurus and didn't have to reprogram the computer. Would the computer need to be programmed even if the fogs were installed in-line with the DRLs???

hmmm...interesting.... is this something that only Chevy does? I installed aftermarket fogs in my Taurus and didn't have to reprogram the computer. Would the computer need to be programmed even if the fogs were installed in-line with the DRLs???

GM started going to central BCMs about 15 years ago and started to trickle them down the line. It reduces the overall amount of wiring in the car and moves everything to a simple central communications network. Other car manufacturers are using the same concept.

Keep in mind, you only need to reprogram the BCM if you're adding fogs using the factory harness and switch. If you're wiring them up directly to their own switched 12v source, no need to reprogram anything.

After researching several threads on the factory fogs and the sub-woofer, I have couple questions for you fellas. Just as side note I have an '07 1LT

1) Did any of you have to purchase & install a relay & fuse for the oem fogs?

Reason I'm asking I popped the fuse cover Friday night and made sure all my relays & fuses were seated as per one thread. Thank you to whomever posted that one. 2/3rds were not pushed in all the way... Anyway, I was looking at the cover as to locations of what was what. I discovered that I have a relay & fuse for the fog lights. I don't have any factory fog lights installed (yet).

Still thinking about installing a factory sub was on my mind. So I pulled the inside cover off the console checking fuses. Not knowing exactly what I was looking for I noticed that I had a fuse for an amplifier, but I don't have the Premium sound system. Again, knowing that I wasn't sure if you all have the fuse for the amplifier even though you may not have the premium sound. :confused:
I got out the handy meter turned on the key and it was a hot circuit.

2) I didn't think the standard sound system would have a seperate amplifier fuse?

Insofar as wiring in a factory sub... Does anybody know if there is a harness available to go from the HU harness back to the sub / amp location. If not I guess I'll be making my own. Being told that the harness is not already there I can deal with. Being told that it can't be done without splicing into all the speakers is like telling me if you drink water you'll die. What has a begining must have an end...if it has an end I'm pretty sure I can come up with a solution to continue its path. When I do I'll make sure I can pass it on to you folks too...I'll even enclose pictures for those like me that really need them :lol:

Sorry for getting off track on the fog lite install... I'm one that is especially thankful for the "how to" on these babys. Cant wait until my hands are back to 100% so I can try and give myself carpal tunnel again by over use of them tinkering on my cars. :roll: But I digress

Hi!

First time user of this site, so bear with me.

The instructions in this thread for installing Fog lights are fantastic, but I have one question to ask. After taking a part the fuse box, and wiring everything up, then putting everything together again, doesn't this mess everything up like the radio, air conditioner, and computer, what ever?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, after wiring everything, (Assuming everything's wired up correctly.) and putting the fuse box back together, does anything need to be done, before taking it to the dealer to have the BCM programmed?

Curious, what if I didn't have the programming done to the BCM? Would the Fog lights work at all?

Hi!

First time user of this site, so bear with me.

The instructions in this thread for installing Fog lights are fantastic, but I have one question to ask. After taking a part the fuse box, and wiring everything up, then putting everything together again, doesn't this mess everything up like the radio, air conditioner, and computer, what ever?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, after wiring everything, (Assuming everything's wired up correctly.) and putting the fuse box back together, does anything need to be done, before taking it to the dealer to have the BCM programmed?

Curious, what if I didn't have the programming done to the BCM? Would the Fog lights work at all?

If wired correctly, the only thing that has to be done is get the BCM programmed.....and if you don't get it done, the lights will not work...regards

I had installed and wired my fog lights a while back and was waiting for a time when it needed to go to the dealer for something else to have the BCM done. I took it last week. They turned the warped rotors at no cost under warranty and programmed the fogs. They work very well. $65.00 to enable the lights.

what is the bcm?mt nieces hhr has the same fuse box under hood and wire behind dash do i have to get the bcm reprogramed or what ?i have done a lot of wireing to other cars please help mei seen the pics is it a big project?

bmc--body control module. Has to be reprogrammed by a dealer. Fogs can be wired by using separate wire, in line fuse, separate relay, separate switch and you will be OK but if you use the wiring and stuff already in the car, these new systems requires the bmc to be programmed by the dealer or it will not work.

I INSTALLED THE FACTORY FOG LAMPS AND SWITCH IN MY 1LT, EVERYTHING WORKS WITHOUT THE REPROGRAM EXCEPT THE INDICATOR LIGHT IN THE CLUSTER. WENT TO THE DEALER TO GET IN PROGRAMMED AND THEY COULD FIND A APPLICATION TO REPROGRAM THE BCM, IS IT IN THE CLUSTER INSTEAD, ANYONE KNOW??
:confused:

Find another dealer...fast.
This is a run of the mill standard procedure and if they don't know how to program the bcm, they are too stupid to get your business.

anyone who what has to be programmed to make the light on the dash work?

The dash light is controlled by the BCM, so it should work after you have the dealer re-program it....at least mine worked after re-programming. Did you install the switch and wiring the fogs per the "How To" or did you wire the switch directly to the fogs ?

Found these on Fleabay. Supposed to be exactly like factory OEM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-2008-CHEVY-HHR-FOG-LIGHTS-PAIR-OEM-W-BULB-06-07-08_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33709QQihZ001QQitemZ 110222622443QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

did the fog lights change to completly round now? I thought that they had a cutout on the top of them.

I want to do this mod on my Brand New 2008 LS. Can this be done on the LS?? Is the fog light wiring harness already there?? Can I have the BCM reprogrammed on an LS or should I just opt for the seperate switch/relay/fuse holder. Gonna order 'em off ebay and want to make sure I don't need any extra "dealer only" parts. Thanks in advance for your help.

goatcheez

Did you read the start of the thread at all???

I just put fog lamps on my fathers 2007 hhr LS. it has a build date of 05/07. I installed every thing just like this post sead but when I had the BCM programed the only thing that worked was the light on the dash :confused: I had to do alot of searching to find the problem but I found it. This hhr has the wirring at the switch to the BCM but no wire from the BCM to the PDC (under hood fuse box).:cussing: I found the info I needed and added the wire, now they work just like they should.:smile: so here go's first I would like to say that the info on this how to post is great and will work on most of the hhr's but there are some odd ball's out there and my fathers is one of them.

The wire that I had to add was the control wire to the relay if it's there it would be yellow in color. it connects pin #54 on the C1 BCM connector to pin#C1 on the C2 PDC (under hood fuse box) connector. the C2 connector is the connector closest to the fire wall. the BCM C1 connector is the connetor at the bottom closet to the floor that you can see when you remove the inside fuse box cover. ( I took some pic's but will need some time to add later)

you can use the same connector pin that was used on the under hood fuse block but you will need to get the right pin for the BCM. I got it from my dealer, the terminal tray #is 15359541/4 the OEM # is 15393122. parts department should know how to use these numbers. You will have to run this wire inside the car I ran mine next to the hood relese cable then inside the car with the hood cable gromit.

This 07 hhr did not have a fog lamp relay or a fuse for the relay It was just empty spaces. I see that some people have stated that the relay and the fuse was aready there maybe thats how you can tell if you have the control wire? if it has the relay there it may have the wire if the relay is not there it more then likey don't have the wire:confused:

It was a lot more work then I aspected but it works great and most of all dad's happy ;)

Did you read the start of the thread at all???

Yep. Doesn't really say much about the LS. Did I miss something?? 2 of links for more info do not work. So I think my questions are valid. Advice??

goatcheez

I did my 06 LS 07/04/05 build and my wife's 07LS with a 04/07 build date both are base LS mine has a A/T the wife is a true base with a M/T both had fuse & relay

Hi all. Just bought a set of the direct OEM replacement fog lights from "Fleabay". Like cj, the only 2 option that I wanted was auto transmission and fog lights. My 2008 LS does not have the fuse and circut breaker installed. Does anyone know if the factory switch is a momentary contact type or open/close type of switch? Also I need instruction on removing the panel for switch access so that I can check for the switch connector (the PCM is wired but nothing is plugged in).

My first post stated fuse and circuit breaker, I met fuse and relay. In any case the local dealer didn't know if my BCM could be programmed for F/L. If the factory switch is a open/close type I will use it to control the A/M relay. I have looked but none of the usual on line services has the wiring diagrams for the 2008’s yet. Checked on a GM shop manual but they are out of stock until mid July. Once I have the wiring diagram I will be able to modify the wiring to work like factory installed with out buying a new BCM. I will let you all know how things work out.

My first post stated fuse and circuit breaker, I met fuse and relay. In any case the local dealer didn't know if my BCM could be programmed for F/L. If the factory switch is a open/close type I will use it to control the A/M relay. I have looked but none of the usual on line services has the wiring diagrams for the 2008’s yet. Checked on a GM shop manual but they are out of stock until mid July. Once I have the wiring diagram I will be able to modify the wiring to work like factory installed with out buying a new BCM. I will let you all know how things work out.

Switch is momentary. You shouldn't need a wiring diagram...everything you need to know is in the first half dozen messages of this thread. The question is, whether or not there is a factory plug/wire awaiting you behind the pop out switch panel.
If not, you're gonna have to wire the whole thing yourself anyway....the BCM won't be a factor... and btw, the fog light indicator light on the instrument panel will not light up when the lights are on if you don't have the BCM reprogrammed...whether you have the factory wiring diagram or not.
On factory installs, the switch sends a momentary signal to the BCM, which then sends a signal to the relay, which turns on the lights. The BCM also sends a signal to the instrument panel indicator light and turns it on.

Thanks, I ordered the factory switch and relay from a very helpful Cadillac dealer in NJ. I got them both for about $20. I will use the switch either way. My car is too new to be in the GM system yet. There is a factory harness that we believe plugs into the PCM and runs down to the F/L that I will buy if the switch side is prewired. If it’s not then I will hard wire the switch to a 12 volt latching relay (we use these at work). These are rated at 30 amps on the relay side with a 12 volt control coil, this should be plenty if I need to go that route. I still need to know how to pop off the panel to get to the switch. Thanks again Curmudgeon for your reply.

The panel known as the waterfalls which covers the radio, and all the controls, just pops straight out. I'm looking for the thread that has the pictures but if any one else can find the thr first, please post.
Here you go. http://www.socalhhr.citymax.com/hhrradioremoval.html

Thanks an08HHR. The panel came straight out by pulling at the A/C vents. I found a three wire connector (ORANGE, GREY and BLACK/with a WHITE tracer). I believe that will be for the fog lamp switch. Just have to wait now for the stuff to get here. Paul (1-908-561-2900 EXT 1137), the NJ Cadillac dealer parts guy, is very helpful in in finding and ordering the correct OEM parts. Once I get it all together I plan to have the dealer reset BCM to see if it will work.

All you need is a single wire from the relay in the fuse box to the lights themselves. Of course it will need to "Y" so there is one hot wire to each light. You then ground the light to any bolt on the frame near it.
The hardest part is getting the wire into the output leg of the relay...but it ain't a huge/hard deal. Can't see why you'd pay for a "factory wire" when it's so simple to do yourself.

Curmudgeon

Hi all. I got everything now. I got the factory switch installed and wired. I have the harness built. I have not figured out how to get the power distribution box apart to get the wire connected to the factory realy:red: . I did find the correct size spade connectors that fit the legs on the relay. I have searched the threads but I could not find any instructions for taking the PD box apart. :confused: I am encouraged, pressing the fog lamp switch turns on the insturment panel lights (not the fog light indicator, yet) so once it is all installed I am confident that resetting the BCM will cause them to work as the OEM setups.

Me again. I have installed the lights and the factory switch. I have the wires running up to the under hood fuse box. Mine is an 08 and did not come with the fuse and relay installed (I have those installed as well). I have removed the fuse box from all of the connectors (harnesses). I don't have a clue as to where to connect the wire. On mine it looks like the wire will need to be inserted into one of those connectors. I have the correct size spade connector to do this but I just don't know where to insert it. Please send a picture if you can help.

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/5/1/2/0/1348866471.gif

the conector location in the wirring diagrams are unclear about the concetor on the bcm so I added my own. it is the conector at the lowest point of the bcm the bcm is located with the inside fuse box. hope this helps.

since I'm new to posting pics if this doesn't work go to gallery and type fog lights install and it "should" bring up the pictures. :lol:


*** Sorry not all the pics came over with the post so you will have to go to the gallery and search.

Hello,
Anyone have a part number for the female spade connector under the hood in the relay block to run the wires to the fog lites? The number in earlyer post is no longer good.

I pulled one from a 2002 GM Car at the juck yard only to find it wouldnt fit. Dealer said they changed over the design in 2005. (I wont be finding any of them in the JY).

I find it quite funny that this part has been around that long and all the local dealers cant find it in thier parts manual. They said " I can sell you the enitre harness?"

Thank you,
Craig~

I was able to get the conectors for the body controller but the conectors for the under hood fuse box are not serviced. I used after market conectors form local part store. you can find a asortment pack that will have the corrcet size in it then I just pushed it up in to the factory harness connector. it won't lock in place but it fits sold on to the spade.:smile:

Yes the term. is a serviced part it is part of the tools for servicing & repair of the wire harness in all of the GM line!

I've been away for awhile and noticed the pictures are no longer valid. And my old PC died. The host server I used is no longer running. I finally got around to recovering the pictures off my old hard drive and was going to fix the pictures but I don't have edit access (might be because it several years old).

Moderator: If you can grant edit access to the orginal post or I could e-mail the pictures to you.

...Moderator: If you can grant edit access to the orginal post or I could e-mail the pictures to you.

I am unable to change your editing privileges, only JonyyB can do that.
However: Upload the images to our gallery and I can make the changes for you.
When you upload them, keep the file name the same as they were and that will make the edits much easier for me to do.

I uploaded the pictures under /Members HHR's/cjuetten/ I found all but the first picture. If you have probelms or question let me know.

thanks

update of pics?

So any one who has done this mod or mess with the fuse box have any problems electrically after?????

I was just check it out and trying to see how to take it apart, now my rear wiper runs when the switch isn;t on(cant turn it off), the rear defrost is on (can't turn it off), my ac don't work(can't turn it on). My front wipers came on half way and then stoped my lights nd signals don't work. And when i mess with the switch for the rear wiper it kills the car and turns off.

Any one happen to know whats going on? I did not even connect anything or splice power from the fuse box. :confused:

Hello,
I ended up getting the entire fog light harness Used for $50.
It took about an hour to put in.
Very simple ...when removing old harness just follow in with the new one :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/Pretzel/Imgp3169.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/Pretzel/Imgp3170.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/Pretzel/Imgp3173.jpg

Thanks members!!
Craig~

Just an FYI for everybody. Did the foglight install on my 08 LT1 panel and everything worked great. And I didn't have to do any reprogram of the BCM.
Thanks for the write-up.

Hello all,

I am picking up a very, very nice '08 red LT panel tonight, (actually I've been driving it), but have to finish the paperwork. Anyway, when you order the factory switch for this install, does it replace the complete insert, or how is it installed? Thanks in advance!

Marty

For those of you who are still interested in doing this install yourself I thought I would pass on information of where I got the OEM replacement fog lights.

I purchased these lights from Auto Accessories Warehouse:

http://stores.channeladvisor.com/autoaccessorywarehouse/

The lights were $48.58 each with free shipping and handling. I had to call the company, though, as the free shipping was not showing up when I went through the checkout, but they took care of it immediately. Shipping took only a few days from California to the Midwest.

The lights are made by TYC, and are marked as OEM replacements for part number 15813308 and 15813307. They are very nice lights, fit perfect, and have the up and down adjuster.

Now all I have to do is get the BCM programmed for the lights and I am good to go.

So I have this idea. :roll: I have 2010 LS that probably doesn't have the harness, and probably doesn't have a BCM that is program able for the the Fogs. So, being the ever thinking person that I am, I am planning to do the attach the front side marker to the blinker mod. Are there some wires I can splice into to run to the newly acquired fog lights so they would always be on with the parking lights? Like maybe the unused wire from the side marker? This way I dont have to have a switch, I dont have to get a BCM AND get it programed, and IF i just wanted the fog lights on all i have to do is turn the parking lights on or turn the head lights off. LOL :confused:

if you wire the fog lights to the parking lights you will run the risk of over loading the parking lights,wiring,fuses,ect...
however i have heard of people wiring fog lights to the low beem headlights without any issues.

Oh, that is a better idea. Thank you for that. 8-D

i put the factory fog lights on my 09LS and i used a tech2 to tell the bcm that the car now has fog lights. everything works perfect. I did this mod last summer, a week after I bought my HHR.

yea, seems I cant afford the $2k for the Tech2 scanner.

I have a 2007 Chevrolet HHR 1LT without fog lamps. I don't know much about cars, and the stuff you guys are talking about is way beyond what I know how to do. How much do you think an average dealership would charge to install the factory fog lights on my HHR, beginning to end? I don't want to mess anything up by trying to do it myself; I have no experience with this sort of stuff.

If you listen to us you'll get different answers. Just call a dealer, ask for the service dept and they will give you the best answer. Then I bet you'll change your mind on having them do it.

yes, I will do as much work on my own that I can to save a buck.

if you wire the fog lights to the parking lights you will run the risk of over loading the parking lights,wiring,fuses,ect...

I have actually found a way around the higher voltage issue. LED fog light bulbs. I have found sevral manufacturers that make the H11 in an LED configuration that I am sure draws less power than the Halogen counter part.:cool:

Do you think installing factory fog lights would be something that someone with no experience in this area would be able to figure out? Is it simple enough?

Do you think installing factory fog lights would be something that someone with no experience in this area would be able to figure out? Is it simple enough?

Yes. I did mine just recently and although I am pretty handy with stuff like this, I believe the process is easy and straight forward. The plugs pop out, the lights snap in, running the wires is simple and the How-To shows you exactly how to wire them up. It really is easy. Do it in the daylight and give yourself an hour to 90 minutes to complete and don't rush.

Yes. I did mine just recently and although I am pretty handy with stuff like this, I believe the process is easy and straight forward. The plugs pop out, the lights snap in, running the wires is simple and the How-To shows you exactly how to wire them up. It really is easy. Do it in the daylight and give yourself an hour to 90 minutes to complete and don't rush.
Ok, thank you very much!

Where is the OEM location for the switch? (pic?)

Is it next to the dimmer wheel and traction control button?
I do not see a cover or plug where a switch would go, so am I correct in thinking the panel which holds the dimmer and tc needs to be changed?


'10 1LT

That is correct. I pulled my waterfall to work on the stereo and looking from the rear, there is a provision for the fog switch, but nothing "removable" showing on the front. Assuming that the factory switch is round, you could drill it with a 'stepper' bit up to the size you need then use the mount that is in place already on the back of the waterfall.

That is correct. I pulled my waterfall to work on the stereo and looking from the rear, there is a provision for the fog switch, but nothing "removable" showing on the front. Assuming that the factory switch is round, you could drill it with a 'stepper' bit up to the size you need then use the mount that is in place already on the back of the waterfall.

Thanks Putter!
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