View Full Version : Sandstone Graphic option


Markiemark
01-16-2006, 04:54 PM
I posted a picture of a 47 Chevy, with potential color combo, I would like to do to my sandstone HHR. I like the two-tone, Gold(Sandstone) and the black with a separating graphics line, I would add small flame design. Just dreaming and looking for good options, if I every get in position to re-paint, my existing HHR!!!! I will try to attach here, if not go to gallery, look in "Other HHRs" pictures.



PS: I believe file too large to attach here, but it went into gallery!!

Later,
Mark

captain howdy
01-16-2006, 05:02 PM
http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/2/1/3/47Chevy.jpg

My taste would be the black on top and the sandstone on the bottom. I like the gold lines though, it really sets the colors apart. I'm not really a fan of the way they did the paint on that car though. It doesn't seem to flow with the lines of the vehicle.

Markiemark
01-16-2006, 07:08 PM
First, how the heck can you attach and mine says image too big??!! I assume user error, Thanks for attaching.

I do agree, that this is different, not using the beltline as the separation point, as many two-tones do. The color combination, is striking, would have too play with where to separate point on a HHR. Many times, making top half the darker, may give a more aggressive, top chop look, also. Good color combo, for the sandstone color!!!

SIHHR
01-16-2006, 07:24 PM
WOW. I love the look and the rims.

captain howdy
01-16-2006, 07:46 PM
First, how the heck can you attach and mine says image too big??!!

I explained in the Black HHR thread. ;)

Markiemark
01-16-2006, 09:21 PM
http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/2/1/3/godfather_hhr.jpg


Just trying the paste picture too post, techique, plus another example of a cool two tone paint. Yeah, Yeah, a little different from subject, but hey, I think I got this paste picture to posts, look out!!!!

Thanks!!!

captain howdy
01-16-2006, 09:25 PM
Now thats more my taste, I like that a lot! :beer:

Markiemark
01-16-2006, 09:36 PM
By the way the 1947 Chevy is for sale on Classic Car Trader Online, under street rods, with more pictures. No I don't know anything about it, a little pricey(lets just say you could buy two loaded HHR's or 3 base HHR's), but nicer Street Rods now days are not what I consider reasonable.

Markiemark
01-16-2006, 09:39 PM
Now thats more my taste, I like that a lot! :beer:


Yeah, if money were not a object, that Godfather Portrait, would be very similar to my ultimate HHR!!!

SoCalHHR
01-16-2006, 11:27 PM
Here's my feeble attempt at a 2-tone HHR:

http://www.socalhhr.citymax.com/i/Hidden%20Pics/Black_Widow_2tonesm.jpg

It would work great for a pest control agency - or a window tinting company (i.e., "Black Window Tinting")

Anyway, I kind of like it! :D

captain howdy
01-16-2006, 11:30 PM
Now I see why you want the rest of my grill. It looks totaly bad a** with the two bars in there. After seeing that, it's yours after I chop the top bar if you still want it.

SoCalHHR
01-16-2006, 11:39 PM
Bad News: Those two bars won't fit in there; the "rendering" from Godfather's uses a custom front end (note the plain bumper). I measured for 2-bars a while back - it's a no-go in the stock lower bumper.

Even if you found a way (and it wouldn't match the top grille's spacing), that lower area feeds most of the radiator and condenser air "up." Closing if off with bars could cause overheating. Most of the aftermarket billet lower grilles are much more free-flowing - that's why they work.

There...I finally got to kill someone's joy! (I feel better!) :D

Markiemark
01-17-2006, 07:16 AM
Ahh, why you killing me!!! They did pull off two bars on the SEMA Aqua Woody (one with Gull-wing Doors), now I realize that the SEMA show vehicles, may not be functional as daily drivers. I still want to play with a stock grill, bar or bars, may be able to fill the void and not block venalation too much.


OH Yeah, your Black Widow car, pretty cool!!!!!

And Yes Howdy, still interested in your grill remains!!!!

Dudes have a good Day!!!

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/2/1/3/resized_godfather-customs-hhr-sema-2005_3.jpg

SIHHR
01-17-2006, 12:43 PM
I like how a custom job car like this custom still has the stock appeal. Even with a special lower grille and shaved bumper.

captain howdy
01-17-2006, 12:52 PM
It looks like they flipped the bars upside down in the bottom. :confused: Its hard to tell because of the reflection. I think by using the two bars spaced like that they left enough room for air. It looks doable to me. ;) They just made the mounts in a little from the edge. Go for it! :beer:

SoCalHHR
01-17-2006, 01:19 PM
" I think by using the two bars spaced like that they left enough room for air."

It's a show car - it will hardly ever see the street. Let alone be a "daily driver" - sitting in traffic with no airflow through the radiator... :red:

captain howdy
01-17-2006, 01:33 PM
What about older Corvettes with no place to let air in?

hvrod
01-17-2006, 01:33 PM
<<< I would rather have something there then nothing.. Have you seen road garbage on the road... And when your traveling on the road, an object being kicked up in your radiator/transmission cooler fins.... will cause some damage and in some cases , reduce the amount of cool air from going thru the cooling fins...
Then theres does darn bugs.. getting stuck inbetween the cooling fins..

SoCalHHR
01-17-2006, 01:35 PM
Have you ever seen under the hood of a Corvette? They are fiberglass "tilt" jobs - and are not enclosed like a traditional steel front end.
Plenty of airflow under there...

SoCalHHR
01-17-2006, 01:37 PM
<<< I would rather have something there then nothing.. Have you seen road garbage on the road... And when your traveling on the road, an object being kicked up in your radiator/transmission cooler fins.... will cause some damage and in some cases , reduce the amount of cool air from going thru the cooling fins...
Then theres does darn bugs.. getting stuck inbetween the cooling fins..

I'm in complete agreement, but buy a billet grille or something with good airflow though, don't block it off until the engine overheats.

That's all I'm saying.... :thumb:

Markiemark
01-17-2006, 01:55 PM
" I think by using the two bars spaced like that they left enough room for air."

It's a show car - it will hardly ever see the street. Let alone be a "daily driver" - sitting in traffic with no airflow through the radiator... :red:


Totally agree, that this car is all show, probaly no-go...... But there might be a way to get similar look and still have air-flow. Don't know until you try!!! Definitely appreciate the thought on air-flow and will keep in mind. Nice thing with a four banger, should not be a big problem with over-heating.

I know the nervous-ness feeling of sitting in a Big Block Camaro stuck in traffic jam, watching the temp gauge rise and having to bail to side of the road, in order too cool down. Not Good!!

captain howdy
01-17-2006, 10:00 PM
It just dawned on me that the Ford Fusion uses a similar top and botton grill set up. I wonder if it has overheating problems? :confused:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c122/amarini/fusionsel_road.jpg

SIHHR
01-17-2006, 10:30 PM
Its a ford

SoCalHHR
01-17-2006, 10:37 PM
Grilles are designed by engineers who study aerodynamics, static heat buildup, and many other things I can't even pronounce. The Ford Fusion grile was designed to provide proper airflow for the engine. You are talking about blocking off a major source of cooling airflow on the HHR (air is scooped "up" towards the radiator/condenser area from here), - and what are you going to provide to replace it? Nothing.

I worked closely with a designer at one of my former jobs, and he explained to me that there's a lot more to "design" than just making something look cool. It takes a lot of work to get 60mph of airflow into the engine compartment when you have 60mph of wind outside - it's not that simple.

Hopefully, that gives you a bit more insight; it's about a lot more than "looks."

:beer:

SIHHR
01-17-2006, 10:51 PM
It does make sense to me. I was thinking about that since I bought the car. There has to be a reason why there was that gap in the bumper and how the air intake does point down.

SoCalHHR
01-17-2006, 11:03 PM
Its a ford

HA! (right!) http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/clappy.gif

jerij
01-17-2006, 11:54 PM
Well, I'll let ya'll know when/if it overheats...

jerij

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/77/77252/folders/226272/1793312grillmess.jpg

SoCalHHR
01-18-2006, 12:11 AM
Are you going to fill in those mounting holes with some chrome trim or tape?

jerij
01-18-2006, 12:17 AM
Unknown as of yet. I thought the CW grill was OK, but nothing to scream about. I still don't like the two different styles of grills you end up with when you keep the OEM upper. Nothing available matches it. I'm still kinda playing with it to see what I can do that will work. It looks decent going down the road and from 20 feet, but up close it's a homemade job that still doesn't look to my satisfaction. I'll keep working on it until something comes available.

jerij

SoCalHHR
01-18-2006, 12:30 AM
Tell me this; what would you LIKE to see?

Markiemark
01-18-2006, 07:27 AM
Cool, Jerij, what did you use for the lower grill??


Thanks,

kodak_jack
01-18-2006, 11:12 AM
The majority of air is now designed to come in from the bottom of the front end, not through the grille. How about all of the GM cars in the 90's that had most of the front end covered? They didn't overheat. As long as you have air flowing through part of the grille area, and if you have electric fans at the radiator, IMHO, you're going to be okay. If it doesn't work, you take them back off.

SIHHR
01-18-2006, 10:45 PM
Jerij Did make that grille? I'm confused.

jerij
01-19-2006, 07:17 AM
The grill is the Carriage Works grill. I bought it because it was the cheapest knowing I was probably going to either succeed in altering it to my likes, or destroy it in the process.

The "chrome" bands are wide body side moulding pieces cut to fit (sorta) and 3M taped/glue gunned over the outer frame. I'm going to replace the bottom strip to get rid of the mounting holes (they add to the cheese factor), round out the end areas and hopefully apply a thinner chrome strip around the side&lower perimeter of the opening.

I'm not a metalworks expert so fabricating something out of metal is probably not going to happen for me. The Carriage grill though supplied a very good frame/attach point for the bands though.

jerij

fenris222
01-19-2006, 08:40 AM
Still, you did a good job jeri. Now we have at least a "realistic" idea of what bars would like on the lowerer end. Like you said, it is not perfect, but it is a very good representation of what a lot of us would like to see. Keep the reports coming and for a DYI, you did very well.