View Full Version : More Weight = Better MPG????


bisho1p
03-06-2007, 12:25 PM
More Weight = Better MPG???? :wtf:

Thats what I thought initially. I was averaging about 29.5 MPG for 50/50 city/hwy driving and I thought, hey this is great! :thumb: But then I bought a craftsman tool cart and put it in my rear cargo area laying flat, and I though, man this is REALLY going to kill my gas mileage... :eek:

But much to my suprise and perplexion, my MPG actually increased dramatically. Yes folks, but putting a 150lb craftsman tool cart my MPG went from 29.5 to 31.1 for the same driving distances(daily commute), same driving style (always in a hurry), and same weather conditions.

Go figure. :confused: Anybody got any ideas why I gained almost another 2 MPG by adding 150lb of weight?

jx3
03-06-2007, 12:29 PM
Maybe adding the weight to the rear took some of the pressure off the drive wheels, taking less effort to get rolling?:confused::red: Just putting the idea out there for thought.

jx3
03-06-2007, 01:14 PM
same weather conditions

Could be you were getting a tail wind?:confused:

en0oNmAI
03-06-2007, 04:28 PM
lots of different things could have helped your MPG. Extra weight could have lowered the vehicle enough to change the aerodynamics of the HHR to make it more air-efficient. Tail wind/weight off the front like JX3 said. Less than usual heavy on the loud pedal since you were paranoid about bad MPG. Differnent fuel. Temps, barometric pressure. ANYTHING could have helped this. Sometimes I can get 54mpg cruising at 35 in 5th gear for extended time periods.

JimZ_HHR
03-06-2007, 04:51 PM
As in a truck, adding weight to the back, over the rear tires, keeps the rear tires from 'bouncing' , this keeps more rubber on the road, = better mpg.

jx3
03-06-2007, 04:56 PM
As in a truck, adding weight to the back, over the rear tires, keeps the rear tires from 'bouncing' , this keeps more rubber on the road, = better mpg.

Maybe on a rear wheel drive vehicle. Adding weight to the rear of a front wheel drive eases some of the weight of the drive wheels, thusly increasing the likelyhood of bouncing and less rubber on the road.

JimZ_HHR
03-06-2007, 05:48 PM
Same principle tho, when the rear wheels bounce, causes resistance that could effect fuel economy.

HHRvey
07-16-2007, 10:49 PM
I'm glad I found this thread! I thought something was wrong with the DIC read-out as I couldn't believe I got 30MPG on a recent trip.

HHRvey( an automatic) was loaded with 5 full-size adults, and one 5'3 kid in the cargo area. It was over 90 degrees the day of the trip, and the air was on full-blast! Believe me we were shocked, yet very impressed with this mpg!

Since then, when it's just my hubby and me, we get about 26 or 27mpg on a long trip. QUESTION? Should I put a large brick or something in the back to get those extra 3mpgs back?:steering:

jx3
07-16-2007, 10:55 PM
HHRvey( an automatic) was loaded with 5 full-size adults, and one 5'3 kid in the cargo area.
Better make sure the kid gets strapped in with the cargo net!!:p:
Should I put a large brick or something in the back to get those extra 3mpgs back?:steering:
I'm sure a couple of subs in back will do the trick.:D

HHRvey
07-16-2007, 11:25 PM
Hi Dory!
I got a good chuckle out of your reply! :lol: Actually, the kid I referred to was 17, but kind of small for his age. After he crawled into the cargo space, I packed pillows all around him along with the cargo net to keep him enclosed... kind of a car seat for grown-ups maybe?:nuts:

Black Beauty
07-17-2007, 06:52 AM
Hi Dory!
I got a good chuckle out of your reply! :lol: Actually, the kid I referred to was 17, but kind of small for his age. After he crawled into the cargo space, I packed pillows all around him along with the cargo net to keep him enclosed... kind of a car seat for grown-ups maybe?:nuts:
I`m guessing you`ve never seen a rear end after it`s been hit...
Pillows wouldn`t have done much good, keep the kid out of the CARGO space, mpg notwithstanding.
Always fascinated by people who see a sudden jump in mpg, true test is long range, not momentary.
But then some people want to trade after a week, because the window sticker lied...

HHRvey
07-17-2007, 03:18 PM
Hi Black Beauty,

Point well taken about a rear-end accident. Stuffing Patrick in the cargo hold was a one-time thing so that we didn't have to take 2 cars on the trip. Gas at the time was going for $3.29 a gallon........but you are right, and his life is worth far more than the price of gas. We sure were blessed that we didnt have an accident that day, and I have no plans to try that again!

Black Beauty
07-17-2007, 10:24 PM
10-4:thumb:

Silent Thunder
07-17-2007, 11:46 PM
Hi Black Beauty,

Point well taken about a rear-end accident. Stuffing Patrick in the cargo hold was a one-time thing so that we didn't have to take 2 cars on the trip. Gas at the time was going for $3.29 a gallon........but you are right, and his life is worth far more than the price of gas. We sure were blessed that we didn't have an accident that day, and I have no plans to try that again!

I agree not safe at all, I just wonder how at age 50 I survived riding in the back of our station wagon without air bags, seat belts or even a seat. Rode a bike without a helmet and I'm here. I guess I'm lucky.

Black Beauty
07-18-2007, 07:30 AM
I agree not safe at all, I just wonder how at age 50 I survived riding in the back of our station wagon without air bags, seat belts or even a seat. Rode a bike without a helmet and I'm here. I guess I'm lucky.
The station wagon probably had a bumper thicker than all the sheet metal on a HHR combined.:lol: