View Full Version : who is looking for a intake for there HHR


flyhhr
01-25-2006, 10:43 PM
I will be testing an air intake soon. I will be getting dyno readings to see what the horse power is. I am hoping next week if not, it will be the fallowing week to get it and try it out. I will post # and will be taking orders after that. If i can get some feed back on who is looking for one please let me know. I am also getting a short shifter made also for the people with an manual.



thanks


phillip

cjnappo
01-26-2006, 12:37 AM
really interested but want to know more info about what brand how much how much horse but deffinatly interested thanks

captain howdy
01-26-2006, 07:10 AM
After a few are on the market and I can compare dyno charts, the way they look, and where they draw their air from I might be interested. Resist the impulse to just jump on the first one to hit the market. ;)

flyhhr
01-26-2006, 10:13 AM
After i get it and test it i will put all the info out there.

hvrod
01-26-2006, 10:19 AM
Yeah. would like to pics, before and after install, materials its made out of etc..
thanks

snksknr94
01-26-2006, 12:40 PM
I need more details. If it is an ricer fan boy warm air intake with an oiled filter I'm out.

captain howdy
01-26-2006, 12:45 PM
I need more details. If it is an ricer fan boy warm air intake with an oiled filter I'm out.

Agreed! :beer:

flyhhr
01-27-2006, 04:01 PM
I should be getting the intake next week I will dyno the intake i will post the # and the company and how much it will sell for after i get the info. I promise it's not some cheap plastic crap.

thanks phillip

captain howdy
01-27-2006, 05:20 PM
I would rather have plastic. If it's the right types of plastic it will stay cooler than a metal CAI. I had a plastic CAI on my Mustang and it dynoed well above all of the competitors. It just wasn't as shiny. Is it an actual CAI, meening it relocates the filter outside of the engine bay. I don't want a WAI (warm air intake). :roll: ;)

snksknr94
01-27-2006, 05:34 PM
I would rather have plastic. If it's the right types of plastic it will stay cooler than a metal CAI. I had a plastic CAI on my Mustang and it dynoed well above all of the competitors. It just wasn't as shiny. Is it an actual CAI, meening it relocates the filter outside of the engine bay. I don't want a WAI (warm air intake). :roll: ;)

Exactly, if it is just a shiny tube with an oiled filter in the engine compartment, thats no good.

SoCalHHR
01-27-2006, 05:57 PM
Funny you guys should say that. TPR just did a huge intake shootout disproving your theories (one of my former bosses owns this magazine).

Check out all the numbers - hp, torque, top speeds - short rams (yes - with warm air from the engine compartment!) , outperformed all the CAI's tested (from the same compamnies.)

Link to the article HERE (http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml).

It kind of changes your outlook when you see the numbers.

snksknr94
01-27-2006, 08:24 PM
Funny you guys should say that. TPR just did a huge intake shootout disproving your theories (one of my former bosses owns this magazine).

Check out all the numbers - hp, torque, top speeds - short rams (yes - with warm air from the engine compartment!) , outperformed all the CAI's tested (from the same compamnies.)

Link to the article HERE (http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml).

It kind of changes your outlook when you see the numbers.

Funny this section proves what we've been saying:

The Results (Unpublished)
Published results never tell the whole story. During the test, we found some very interesting trends. All of the short-ram type intakes suffered dramatically from heat soak when we ran the dynos back to back. What does this mean? In the real world of stoplight-to-stoplight confrontations, performance on cars equipped with a short ram intake may begin to drop off as underhood temperatures rise. With the cold air systems, the horsepower results were much closer (within a half of horsepower instead of one to three horsepower.)

snksknr94
01-27-2006, 08:28 PM
I just looked at what the peak number were for some of the tests it was about 50/50 for thw ones I looked at which version performed better. The K&N CAI performed better than the K&N short ram as did a couple of others. I won't buy a product based off of dyno numbers, theres too many ways to inflate the numbers all a dyno is is a tuning tool, the peak numbers mean nothing.

captain howdy
01-27-2006, 08:47 PM
It kind of changes your outlook when you see the numbers.

It doesn't change my outlook one bit. I know colder air is better for my engine.

flyhhr
01-29-2006, 12:50 AM
ok i am testing it now still working out the bugs but what is the avg. speed that everyone hhr is done and the avg. gas milage to the tank.



thanks phillip

SoCalHHR
01-29-2006, 01:04 AM
There is no "average" - it varies widely depending on each user's driving habits.

captain howdy
01-29-2006, 09:03 AM
There is no "average" - it varies widely depending on each user's driving habits.

I agree. In my case I have had my HHR up to about 115 MPH but generaly drive about 80 or 90 if the kids aren't in the car but that all changes when the kids are with me. I follow all laws and speed limits with them in the car. I'm on the low end of the average milage, I average about 21 MPG (21.2 on my DIC right now). I'm pretty sure not everyone drives like me so you'll get some very different answers. :roll:

flyhhr
01-30-2006, 11:15 AM
ok well i am still testing it and i will get some pic's and pricing and info on everything. Captian howdy you drive like me and with this intake i have seen an big change in gas mileage.


thanks phillip

Skatetheglobe
01-30-2006, 07:58 PM
I'm interested for sure.Any idea on the cost?

SoCalHHR
01-30-2006, 09:19 PM
...with this intake i have seen an big change in gas mileage.


What about mixture ratio? Have you seen a big change in that?
I'll bet its running a lot leaner now.

snksknr94
01-31-2006, 12:31 AM
What about mixture ratio? Have you seen a big change in that?
I'll bet its running a lot leaner now.

PCM will compensate for it, trying to keep it as close to 14.7:1 as possible. When it gets to a point that the PCM can't compensate you'll get the check engine light. Thats the just of it, if somebody wants a more technically response I can provide it, I just don't feel like typing a novel about long and short fuel trims and PCM cells, etc.

SoCalHHR
01-31-2006, 02:16 AM
I'm working with STS on a turbo kit right now and it will require sending your BCM in for reflashing. (I'm sure the forced induction pushes things waaay past 14.7:1)

Skatetheglobe
01-31-2006, 07:16 AM
So I have no clue what yall are talking about but couldn't I just by universal pieces and build my own intake.

captain howdy
01-31-2006, 07:29 AM
So I have no clue what yall are talking about but couldn't I just by universal pieces and build my own intake.

Universal pieces? :confused: CAIs are vehicle and model specific usually. I have seen ones fitted to a different vehicle than they are made for and I have also seen some pretty ugly home made intakes. It all depends on how good you are at fabricating things yourself. It's easier just to buy one made for your vehicle. Unless you have the skills and time to fabricate a nice one yourself.

snksknr94
01-31-2006, 09:47 AM
I'm working with STS on a turbo kit right now and it will require sending your BCM in for reflashing. (I'm sure the forced induction pushes things waaay past 14.7:1)


I'm not a big fan of STS. I was there for a while but I've read and seen some pretty crap stuff from them.

captain howdy
01-31-2006, 09:48 AM
I think it's kind of cool where the turbo mounts in a STS kit.

Skatetheglobe
01-31-2006, 11:03 AM
I dont know if they are still looking but I found this on another blog.

AEM Research and Development is looking for vehicles in the Southern California area. AEM is located in Hawthorne, California by the intersection of the 110 and 105 freeways. We are in need of vehicles for intake development. The vehicles will be used for either the design process or a fitment check. The design process usually involves running the vehicle on the dyno. We perform diagnostic tests before running any vehicle on the dyno to ensure the use of a healthy engine. We require the use of vehicles from 1 day up to as many as 7 days. During your vehicle’s stay at AEM it will be stored in our fully enclosed and secure shop. We are also insured for any incidences that could occur to your vehicle. If you are of age to rent a car AEM will reimburse you in full for the rental charges. We will secure a rental vehicle for you and deliver you to and from our shop and the rental location. In return AEM will give you a free intake as soon as it is in production.

If your vehicle is not on the following list then you can go to http://www.aempower.com/rdVehicle.asp and enter your vehicle info into our vehicle request form. We are always in need of new vehicles.

If you have any questions please contact Merritt Johnson at 310-484-2322 ext 205 or by email

Thank You,
Merritt Johnson
AEM Performance Parts Engineer

List of Needed Vehicles:


1996-2003 Audi A4 1.8 Turbo
2004.5-2005 Kia Spectra 2.0L
2005 Dodge Dakota 3.7L V6
2005 Jeep Liberty I4 Turbo Diesel
2005.5 Volkswagen Jetta MKV
2005 Hummer H3
2006 Chevrolet HHR
2006 Lexus IS350
__________________

captain howdy
01-31-2006, 11:08 AM
SoCal already let AEM use his HHR to prototype a CAI.

wheelsee
01-31-2006, 11:12 AM
and socal is there any update on a CAI from them?

-wC

SoCalHHR
01-31-2006, 11:28 AM
and socal is there any update on a CAI from them?

-wC


Right now they need a 5-speed HHR (near LA), to verify the numbers (mine's an auto). So, if anyone is nearby and can drop their car off for a few days, I can get you a free intake once they are completed.

Expect 2 more months or so to complete the development stage.
I will post on the board as soon as it's released. :thumb:

wheelsee
01-31-2006, 12:20 PM
damn I wish I lived out there...

-wC

crowbar
04-08-2006, 11:31 PM
I will be testing an air intake soon. I will be getting dyno readings to see what the horse power is. I am hoping next week if not, it will be the fallowing week to get it and try it out. I will post # and will be taking orders after that. If i can get some feed back on who is looking for one please let me know. I am also getting a short shifter made also for the people with an manual.



thanks


phillip

updates?

O6ChevyHHR
04-09-2006, 10:08 AM
pics?

wheelsee
04-09-2006, 12:34 PM
shriners driving tiny cars?

JonyyB
04-09-2006, 02:21 PM
Please make sure no rules (http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/faq.php?faq=faq6#faq_new_faq_item) get broken here :)

I will be testing an air intake soon. I will be getting dyno readings to see what the horse power is. I am hoping next week if not, it will be the fallowing week to get it and try it out. I will post # and will be taking orders after that. If i can get some feed back on who is looking for one please let me know. I am also getting a short shifter made also for the people with an manual.



thanks


phillip

inarmywpride
04-14-2006, 12:51 AM
we need a update