I have a leak on the driver's side door. The dealer has looked at it twice (about 3 days ea time) and has ordered another door seal. I don't think that will fix it either. Any others have this problem. Mine has the running boards, and I'm not sure, but I think that the problem may be in this option. I have the sun roof and it has been checked out by the dealer. Other than that I'm fairly pleased with the Heritage. Got over 16,000 miles and averaging 29.7 mpg.....sweet

No problems with leaks and I have running boards. Your running boards will have nothing to do with your leak. ;)

Where is the water at? A few HHR owners have had leaks from the large wiring boot on the driver's side firewall. I would have your dealer check that out right away. (*Note: these owners reported water pooling up in the dirver's side footwells, soaking the carpet.)

I hope this helps your problem! :thumb:

they shouldn't, but I know who installed them................me! The dealer furnished them later and of course Mr. Fricken Goodwrench is not open on Saturdays...............I work on the road, so I either put up the ugly uinfinished vehicle or install them myself. The install was not too complicated, but on a new vehicle one never knows.

I'd trade out my running boards for the standard trim if anyone is interested.

Where is the water at? A few HHR owners have had leaks from the large wiring boot on the driver's side firewall. I would have your dealer check that out right away. (*Note: these owners reported water pooling up in the dirver's side footwells, soaking the carpet.)

I hope this helps your problem! :thumb:
Excellent info. Exactly where my leak is. I'm headed down to the dealer to get my paperwork now. I'll run that by him. I work on the road, so its hard to keep education different dealers.......thanks

I have not noticed anything but I will check around my car. Thanks Socal. I have been getting a lot of rain in my area. Sorry Captain that we are not getting as much snow as you.

Actually it's been a mild winter here also. :beer: We're well below our average amount of snow fall for this time of year. :D

Our winter has been crazy. Its been 60-70 degrees almost everday for the past 2 months. Theres been a spurt or two where itll hit 30 for a day but then it goes back up to 60 the next day.

Same here. I love the warm weather. We actually got some well overdue rain today. Figures. I get a new HHR on Wednesday. It is all nice and shiny. It hasn't rained in months - literally. Drought here in TX. Then I get a new car and would like to keep it clean and it rains. Oh Well. :roll:

One thing I am going to watch closely as my HHR ages is the door seals on the rear doors. Since the rear doors go all the way to the rear wheel well, the rear door seals are exposed directly at the rear wheel. Splash and throw off from the rear wheels gets forced almost directly at the rear door seals. I think treating them with silicone every year to keep them in good shape is a good idea.

I do mine at least twice a year.

they shouldn't, but I know who installed them................me! The dealer furnished them later and of course Mr. Fricken Goodwrench is not open on Saturdays...............I work on the road, so I either put up the ugly uinfinished vehicle or install them myself. The install was not too complicated, but on a new vehicle one never knows.

I'd trade out my running boards for the standard trim if anyone is interested.
I'd be interested in the runningboards. What color?

Thanks about the inquiries in regards to the running boards. I shouldn't have posted wanting to trade running boards, because I have decided to sell the P.O. S. and it would serve no purpose to swap them out now. The HHR is black and loaded. Anyone want to buy it, feel free to contact me.

thanks,
Rick

Why would anybody wanna buy a POS?

Why would anybody wanna buy a POS?

Don't know......misguided? Someone might want to buy this pos because I'd price it right for them.............

Well I wasn't going to post on this but, Friday it rained so bad that commerical roofs caved in, National Guard closed roads etc. They claim it has not rained that bad in 100 years. Not even with all the hurricanes that run through Florida. Anyways, I have running boards and sunroof and NO leaks. I would say to have take it back to the dealer and have them check the sealing around your door and sunroof. I agree that the running boards DO NOT effect the seal on the door, I bought them after buying the car also. Good luck!

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For some reason during the rain water goes inside my passanger side, 1st time according to dealership weatherstrips not glued properly, 2nd time It had 2in holes under the car so they filled them up w/some kind of sealant. does anyone have this problem? :(

first do you have a sunroof??? ... check if it closses all the way and seals and if it's ok ......second can you see where it's coming from ??? it could be the pass side door window see if it closses all the way ...... third the sunroof drain could be clogged or the door seal could be bad have them check along the firewall or the inlet for the air on the cowl
hope this helps :cool:

For some reason during the rain water goes inside my passanger side, 1st time according to dealership weatherstrips not glued properly, 2nd time It had 2in holes under the car so they filled them up w/some kind of sealant. does anyone have this problem? :(

That does not look like fun. :eek:
No issues w/ leaking here, and there has been some pretty nasty storms that have blown thru Miami........Katrina, Rita, and Wilma.

someone on here has had that problem i cant remember who, the capt knows something about some plugs somewhere.

My leak was coming from the "C" piller on the passanger side. I han not nitice that the rear floor mat was also wet under it. I will pick mine up today. They removed the passanger front seat and headliner and other panels. when I pick it up I will have them shoe me where the water was coming in from so I can relay the info on to other HHR owners. Mine never got that bad, but it doesn't really rain in southern Calif. I hope they give you new carpet.

The water was coming in from under the p/s rear door body weatherstrip. When you open the door the weatherstrip is on the body at the top of the opening. They snap into holes in the body, so they sealed the hole.

My Old car when I had the windshield replaced, whenever it rained water would leak in. prehaps they did not install it properly?

My Old car when I had the windshield replaced, whenever it rained water would leak in. prehaps they did not install it properly?

Did you leave window open a gap while it was curing? :confused:

No leaks here, and I've had mine since Sept. But, man, that is terrible :eek: . You would think that they could find a leak that bad. Definately take it back in! I will send good thoughts your way that they will find THE leak this time.

Mine hasn't been out in the rain yet so I don't know about any leaks. Many years ago one of my friends had a keak that would puddle in his RF floorboard. after many trips into the dealership and the replacement of seals, holes pluged in the floorboard and tons of other crap they finally found an area where two parts come together in the cowl area where the factory didn't seal it properly. It was supposed to be sealed with RTV but it looked like the robot must have run out or something cause it was only partially sealed. It took them a long time to locate it because it would only leak during rain, but would never leak no matter how much water we dumped on the car with or without pressure. very odd. Good luck with your leak.

Mine hasn't ben out in the rain yet so I don't know about any leaks. Many years ago one of my friends had a keak that would puddle in his RF floorboard. after many trips into the dealership and the replacement of seals, holes pluged in the floorboard and tons of other crap they finally found an area where two parts come together in the cowl area where the factory didn't seal it properly. It was supposed to be sealed with RTV but it looked like the robot must have run out or something cause it was only partially sealed. It took them a long time to locate it because it would only leak during rain, but would never leak no matter how much water we dumped on the car with or without pressure. very odd. Good luck with your leak.

No leaks here and we have had a lot of rain the last week. Man that is a lot of water in your car, I would not at all be happy. Good luck getting it resolved!

I just saw them pics when I was looking through the gallery. That SUCKS. That is alot of freaking water too. Sucks man. Just keep taking the thing back in.

Mine did this a few weeks ago, but I couldnt nail down the source, nor reproduce it. Even when washing, no issues. Mine seemed to be a leak in the firewall area, but until it reappears, not much that can be done.

Mine did this a few weeks ago, but I couldnt nail down the source, nor reproduce it. Even when washing, no issues. Mine seemed to be a leak in the firewall area, but until it reappears, not much that can be done.

Driver or pass? If it's on the driver side (TX), check the rubber grommet near the steering column. A few were seated improperly and have been reported as leaking.

Hope it helps,

Driver or pass? If it's on the driver side (TX), check the rubber grommet near the steering column. A few were seated improperly and have been reported as leaking.

Hope it helps,

Pass.

:bye: Thanx everyone I'll just keep taking it back I guess, I hope it stops otherwise it is a LEMON. :bye: and time for a New one. :D

someone on here has had that problem i cant remember who, the capt knows something about some plugs somewhere.

That might have been me. I had a hell of time getting my leak fixed. Problem area, driver side along the bottom of the door. Dealer said several things during a couple of trips and leaving it for several days. It's finally fixed, but the dealer can't tell me what it was for sure....hhmmm prob a condensate box drain line of something simple and they didn't want to embarass themselves. good luck with the new ride.

We've had rain for over a week now and I only had the leak one time. I don't know why it hasn't come back yet....but I'm sure it will:(

Mine had the same problem too. The dealership said it was the heater core that leaked when it rained. Thought it was fixed, but we haven't had rain here in Texas until yesterday am. Guess what?? Water in the passenger floorboard again. At least it wasn't as deep as the first time. So it will be back to the dealership again.

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i had the smae problem but only recently with in the last month i think its the weatherstriping also it snaps in on the outside then it seals to the car with double sided tape well its hot here and the double side tape is not sticking anymore. for now i but silcone down the channel to keep it from leaking, after it dryed i turned the hose lose and no water inside for now it well rain her in the next couple of days so well sell and when i get a chance i'll replace the tape with something a little be stronger

I got this problem too. It goes to dealer tomorrow. We have had monsoon season here and the HHR was parked all day yesterday. Only thing i am worried about is Mold/mildew. oh, and i worry that they may make the car a lemon like o6hhrlt2's car..

Rain !! What's that? We might have leaks too, but we may never find out!!

Yup, it rained hard last week and yeterday I went out and found the front passenger side floorboard was filled with water.
I noticed something in the sticky section.
Anybody got any comments about this?

Simular leaking issues are here. I hope this helps.

http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1424
http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1353

Take a look at these threads Sindy posted and link below. Hopefully one of these will help. If not...I would say off to the dealer.


Water Leaks From Rain May not HHR specific (Technical Service Bulletin)
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-M...12E/index.html

And a quote on another thread.

Mine leak their to, and it was coming from the "c" piller on the passanger side. It turned out to be the weatherstriping on the body that needed to be sealed. Hope this helps!

i had the same issue last week and i took a TSB and the 2 threads listed with me to the dealer. It seems to be the HVAC box gasket. Parts are backordered, so i had to put my HHR in the garage till monsoon season is over in the mid atlantic/North East. THey said 3-4 weeks for the part. Make sure that they clean the floor really well. I am concerned about Mold/mildew. My son has Asthma and is set off by allergies, and his allergy to mold is his worst. So far it smells OK inside, but if it gets bad, i see a carpet replacement in my future.

Leaking again here in Texas, so my HHR will go back to the dealership again tomorrow. This will be the third time. How is a car labeled a lemon? Should I look in to this? Except for the wetness, I love my car.

I have the same problem, though i've seen water dripping from behind the glovebox from whatever lies behind it. Its happened twice, though its rained pretty good a few times. Also, whatever it is (yet to get it checked) its only begun to do it recently and i've had my baby for 4 months.

I don't have a sunroof, and my windshield has yet to be replaced. I have not had any problems as of yet and I know that while I was away last week it POURED! We'll see.

well i took mine to the dealer and they ordered the gasket for the heater box. Then i had to park my camaro outside under cover untill the part came in. Danrn near 2 months later i got the gasket and they "fixed" it. Last Night it rained, and low and behold my floor is wet. THis is going to be annoying at the least.

well i took mine to the dealer and they ordered the gasket for the heater box. Then i had to park my camaro outside under cover untill the part came in. Danrn near 2 months later i got the gasket and they "fixed" it. Last Night it rained, and low and behold my floor is wet. THis is going to be annoying at the least.

Not sure which side you are getting water on but if its the passenger side have them check the gasket around the cabin air filter box, that is what caused mine, flooded the cabin filter also so that had to be replaced. Hope this helps

i believe that is waht they fixed, i will ask again tomorrow. The work order said "R/I and Replace gasket, pass side"
Thanks!

well this morning i got up to go get something out of my hhr and the passenger side was sopping wet as well as the floor mat had standing water on it....theres plenty of water underneath the mat to....and if you hit the floor it splashes water out of it....i just called the dealer but the service department was to busy to take my call......i noticed this about 3 weeks ago when i was vacming the car out but it was just damp...i thought that someone spilled water there.....but this is defitnatly not a spill this time

well this morning i got up to go get something out of my hhr and the passenger side was sopping wet as well as the floor mat had standing water on it....theres plenty of water underneath the mat to....and if you hit the floor it splashes water out of it....i just called the dealer but the service department was to busy to take my call......i noticed this about 3 weeks ago when i was vacming the car out but it was just damp...i thought that someone spilled water there.....but this is defitnatly not a spill this time


Oh Man, looks like you got one too. Apparently this is a bigger issue than they thought. I Cant have a car that gets wet. I pulled my cabin air filter today and it was soaked. If it grows mold and mildew, my sons asthma will go nuts. Also i am worried bout the floor rusting form the inside out. one person already lemon lawed their HHR over this. I see class action suit if they cant figure this out. I winder how many ones on the lots are wet? or got wet and detailed before sale?

My girlfriend just called me this morning on her way to work. Big puddle on passenger side floor. Has anyone determined what this problem is for sure? I really want to get this taken car of soon before it ruins the carpet.

Thanks,
Trevor

Well, it was raining here too and I just have a spot of water about 3 inches by 3 inches. I wonder if it is caused by the same thing as having the whole floor wet? Oh, well I am taking the car to the dealership this wednesday.

Oh Man, looks like you got one too. Apparently this is a bigger issue than they thought. I Cant have a car that gets wet. I pulled my cabin air filter today and it was soaked. If it grows mold and mildew, my sons asthma will go nuts. Also i am worried bout the floor rusting form the inside out. one person already lemon lawed their HHR over this. I see class action suit if they cant figure this out. I winder how many ones on the lots are wet? or got wet and detailed before sale?

i know..i have been smelling a mildew like smell..i bet this is why....this sucks...ive had mine since may and has only been drivin in the rain 2 times....and since the 1st time i have been smelling the mildew like smell.....so i guess this is the problem...going to dealer at 8am wednesday:(

well with by count we have 10 members with this problem. That is a pretty decent amount in this snapshot of HHR owners. I am sure there are others out there having this issue. THe TSB said to rplace the heaterbox gasket. now i cant find that TSB. THere is now one that says it is water from the speaker gasket in the door? All i do know is it is on the passenger side, the cabin airfilter is wet, and fixing that gasket so far has not fixed the problem.

When I got back outside to my car the small spot turned to the entire passenger side floor being soaked with water. It only took three hours, It seems like it is worse when the car is sitting still. Now I am worried about the car being outside since I do not have a garage. I wonder if the dealership will replace the carpet, padding and the dash panel???

When I got back outside to my car the small spot turned to the entire passenger side floor being soaked with water. It only took three hours, It seems like it is worse when the car is sitting still. Now I am worried about the car being outside since I do not have a garage. I wonder if the dealership will replace the carpet, padding and the dash panel???

:smile: Someone on the Forum had their carpeting replaced by their dealer a few weeks ago, but I don't recall who it was.:( Maybe this thread might help:confused:


http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1353
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now it smells like someone puked in my car in the floorboard area of the passenger side......and as someone else said it seems to collect more water after i park after driving in the rain

Mine leaked on the passenger side floor when I first got it but it seems to have healed itself. We have had plenty of rain since then and as yet no problems. I hope I didn't jinx myself now.

Well, the dealership discovered that the in cabin aire filter box had collapsed. I have to go back next week and they will replace the in cabin filter, the in cabin filter box and the in cabin air filter box seal. However they will not replace the carpeting or insulation, instead they will clean it and dry it out ...

Well, the dealership discovered that the in cabin aire filter box had collapsed. I have to go back next week and they will replace the in cabin filter, the in cabin filter box and the in cabin air filter box seal. However they will not replace the carpeting or insulation, instead they will clean it and dry it out ...

Wel that is what they thoght happend to mine too, along with some other gasket. then they found a seam that wasnt sealed, so they sealed it. then they leak tested it and it still is leaking. today they are ripping out the dash. This is not looking good. Will keep you all posted. BTW i got a Stripped cobalt as a loaner, it had manual windows, locks, mirrors, etc... BUT it gets 36MPG!!

Well, the dealership discovered that the in cabin aire filter box had collapsed. I have to go back next week and they will replace the in cabin filter, the in cabin filter box and the in cabin air filter box seal. However they will not replace the carpeting or insulation, instead they will clean it and dry it out ...

:smile: I'd like to see some kind of diagram showing how this cabin filter and filter box is put together. If it filters outside air, and it's raining out, just how is the water diverted away from the filter :confused: (That is if it was assembled correctly :roll: ) Apparently this wasn't done in some cases it appears! :( And how does the filter box collapse ?? Is it made out of cardboard or something? :eek: I can't help but wonder if we're going to have this problem down the road someday ourselves. We've only had 2 real downpours here in the year that we've our HHR, but it was in the carport during both of them.:roll:

Wel that is what they thoght happend to mine too, along with some other gasket. then they found a seam that wasnt sealed, so they sealed it. then they leak tested it and it still is leaking. today they are ripping out the dash. This is not looking good. Will keep you all posted. BTW i got a Stripped cobalt as a loaner, it had manual windows, locks, mirrors, etc... BUT it gets 36MPG!!

When was yours built? Mine was 12/05, maybe the same guy made the same mistake on our cars.

Well, the dealership discovered that the in cabin aire filter box had collapsed. I have to go back next week and they will replace the in cabin filter, the in cabin filter box and the in cabin air filter box seal. However they will not replace the carpeting or insulation, instead they will clean it and dry it out ...

Thats what they ended up doing to mine, the carpet that is. But if for some reason it comes out stained or smells etc, I would take it back and demand new carpet. My dealer told me that because I got it in soon after that cleaning and drying the carpet and padding would make it as good as new and this time the dealer was right but he also said if I was not satisfied with it afterwards to bring it back and they would install new carpet.

i dunno when mine was built, i will have to look. I bought it in March , so it is possible that it was made in December.
Well i got her back today and they had to take the cowls off and the passenger fender as well as the interior panels. They siad there is s seam in the cowl area between under the pass fender that was not seald form the factory. The leak tested it and it seems ok. Tomorrow Ernesto hits the mid atlantic, should be a good test.

Hi,
I'm new to this forum and wanted to check something. We went to look at an HHR earlier in the week and when the salesperson pulled it out, said he couldn't show it to us because the front floor was filled with 2 inches of standing water (we saw it too). He made the comment that someone must have left the window open. We agreed to purchase it if they could clean it up, which they did. We picked it up yesterday, and as my husband drove home, I was feeling drops of water on my foot. This morning, the front passenger floor is soaked again, with about a half-inch of standing water. I called the dealer and they brought out another one to borrow while they attempt to figure out the problem, and I swear the passenger floor rug is all wet on this one too. Both are 2006 LT models, but I was wondering how many others had this problem. Thanks for your time!

well with by count we have 10 members with this problem. That is a pretty decent amount in this snapshot of HHR owners. I am sure there are others out there having this issue. THe TSB said to rplace the heaterbox gasket. now i cant find that TSB. THere is now one that says it is water from the speaker gasket in the door? All i do know is it is on the passenger side, the cabin airfilter is wet, and fixing that gasket so far has not fixed the problem.

It looks like there are about 10 out of 1868 members with this problem ... For what it's worth that is about 1/2 a percent (0.5%) with this issue.

Just encounteed this problem for the first time last week, and reproduced it yesterday...off to the dealer.:cry:

Hi all,
I'll try to give ya'll the cliff notes version of what happened to me!

2 weeks ago we had heavy rain in NY and I drove to a friends house, about 30 miles from mine. When I got there I noticed a small little black spot of water by the passenger door floor board. Didn't think anything of it cause I went through some very large puddles at 55mph.
Left my friends about 6 hours later, drove home, pulled into my garage and went to get my pocketbook off the passenger seat when to my surprise I saw a couple of inches of water swishing back and forth on the floor!!!
Took it to the dealer the next day. Dealer called and said they found the leak, coming from the sunroof (I totally questioned that) apparently the sunroof shifted and the seal moved. I pick up the car 2 days later. Carpet still a little damp. We drove home (dealership is 60 miles from my house) and by the time we got to the Tappan Zee Bridge the passenger floor was wet...AGAIN! Forgot to mention that this was Saturday and NY was feeling the effects of Ernesto.....

Called my Uncle (who is my dealer) and he made some calls to give the service department a piece of his mind. I have to bring the car back on Wednesday!

I am so aggravated! My 96' cavalier NEVER gave me problems! I love Chevy's and thats why I went with another! Now I feel like crying because we have had nothing but problems with my HHR. I love my car but I am at my witts end with all this back and forth to the dealer!

We had the following problems since buying the car on March 17th:

1. remote start didn't work - had to go back in for that - so far so good
2. car turned off while I was driving 60 mph on the Interstate...went in for that, dealer couldn't duplicate the problem so no resolution.
3. rattling sqeaking noise when you go over a bump - again dealer could not duplicate, no resloution
4. Water problem....on going saga!

Sorry such a long vent, but who better to share with than fellow HHR owners...

Hi all,
We had the following problems since buying the car on March 17th:

1. remote start didn't work - had to go back in for that - so far so good
2. car turned off while I was driving 60 mph on the Interstate...went in for that, dealer couldn't duplicate the problem so no resolution.
3. rattling sqeaking noise when you go over a bump - again dealer could not duplicate, no resloution
4. Water problem....on going saga!

Sorry such a long vent, but who better to share with than fellow HHR owners...

NY
You may have already seen this. But a lot of members just print off a copy of the TSB (Technical Service Bulletins) and take them with them.

Here is one of the links. http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1155711600000_1157007600000_05-01-38-016B/index.html

I would recommend that you have them check the in cabin air filter. That is what was wrong with mine. I cannot tell you if that fixed the problem, since the dealership does not have my parts yet.

thanks John, but I didn't have my A/C on either time this happened. It was cool out both days and it was pouring out.

Just wanted to give my thoughts (and Thanks) to everyone contributing to THIS thread. Although I haven't experienced THIS problem... yesterday was the FIRST day I experienced minor flooding in downtown Detroit. Drove through some rather deep and long 'puddles'. Thankfully- THIS thread was the FIRST thing I thought of... and (thankfully) no problems!
Thanks again for helping keep people on their toes!!!

:( I have only had my HHR a month. We haven't had any rain yet, but now i'm starting to worry!

:( I have only had my HHR a month. We haven't had any rain yet, but now i'm starting to worry!

Why worry. Worry when you see the water. Until then don't assume you will have the problem. Most people do not have a problem, remember.

You have a point!

I would recommend that you have them check the in cabin air filter. That is what was wrong with mine. I cannot tell you if that fixed the problem, since the dealership does not have my parts yet.

Had the same problem here and they fixed the cabin air filter gasket or whatever its called and havent had the problem since. The dealer told me the rubber gasket had rolled up and was letting water in. Hope this is of some help

I took my car to the dealship on thursday and they replace the in cabin air filter, cover and gasket. They also cleaned the carpeting and the padding. however my car still has a funny smell to it. Maybe I have developed some mold on the carpeting or padding? I wonder if the smell will go away or get worse? I think I may be going back to the dealership to have the carpeting and all other affected parts replaced, wish me luck, Thanks.

i had a small leak and it was coming from the water runoff channel by the door near the edge of the windshield its double side taped and lock into a channels, the tape wore off and water would get into the channel and down the apiller when it rained hard, i used silcon sealant in the channel and all is good

I took my car to the dealship on thursday and they replace the in cabin air filter, cover and gasket. They also cleaned the carpeting and the padding. however my car still has a funny smell to it. Maybe I have developed some mold on the carpeting or padding? I wonder if the smell will go away or get worse? I think I may be going back to the dealership to have the carpeting and all other affected parts replaced, wish me luck, Thanks.

I would think if it smells then you got some mold or something they did not get. I got mine in quickly so the dealers fix worked. I would take it back and get new carpet and padding. My dealer told me the padding is kind of thick so you may have developed some mold or something on that if you did not put it in the shop right after the problem. Hope this helps.

First something nice to say, then let the complaining begin.

The HHR remote really works from a long distance. I can start my car from my office window on the third floor of the building and by the time I get downstairs the car is cooled off. I am really cool in my son's eyes because when we rode the backwards roller coaster at our local amusement park, I was able to make the lights flash and horn blow on our HHr in the parking lot while we were going up the first hill on the coaster.

Well, that was the nice part. Now to the problem...

I bought my HHR last May and have 8k miles on it now. It started leaking in August and today it went back to the dealer for the third time with the mystery leak problem. They have done the A/C fix and also repaired a cowling that goes around the window wipers on the first two tries. The leaks always happen when it rains and the car is parked. It doesn't seem to matter if it is parked flat or on a hill. I have had water in both sides at the same time and in each side separately. The dealer has seen the water becasue the car was wet when I took it in. They dried it out but were not able to replicate the leak by spraying water on the car. It doesn't leak in a car wash or while driving in the rain.

The dealer is to bring in a leak specialist to look at my car. Reading the other posts is really nerve racking as I'm left with the impression this is a problem that is very difficult to resolve.

I was going to buy something that was one-in-a-million that day... I wish it would have been a winning lottery ticket instead of a leaky car!

i took my leaky HHR to the dealship last thursday...they had it for a few hours and couldnt find anything...they told me they "water tested" it filled up a few areas of water and a few other things and couldnt find the problem...they told me they were going to do some research and call me back to bring it in....i told them to come check out this website and look for the water problem thread lol....they looked at me funny so i explained...then they got a more serious look because i guess they thought it was just me who had the problem......anyways im taking the car in tomorrow morning and there giving me a malibu to drive around in:( so they better get it figured it out...dam carpet really stinks

The leak expert found and repaired 3 leaks on my HHR. One was under the cowling that is over the windshield wiper motor(second leak in the cowling). One was in my passenger side door speaker which was filling up with water and draining out into the floor of the car. The third was coming in somewhere in the back of the car and the water was travelling all the way to the front. I am now waiting for the next rainstorm to see if this has worked. The dealer has ordered a replacement cowling because it doesn't fit tightly to the windshield, so when I take it back for that, I am going to request them to replace the carpet and floormats due to discoloration.

I am also afraid that in repairing (maybe) the leaks, they have created a new problem. Since I picked the car up from the dealer, my mileage has dropped significantly, down to about 19 or 20 MPG under the same condtiions where I was getting 25 to 26 MPG. The car feels less peppy - almost hesitant on acceleration. I have a 2.4 LT2 model. By plugging holes under the cowling, could the dealer have restricted the airflow to my engine and caused a decrease in performance of my car?

I appreciate your thoughts on this as it will help me know what to tell them when I go back to the dealership for the next round of repairs.

How many miles have you driven since they "fixed" the leaks?

Since I picked the car up from the dealer, my mileage has dropped significantly, down to about 19 or 20 MPG under the same condtiions where I was getting 25 to 26 MPG. The car feels less peppy - almost hesitant on acceleration. I have a 2.4 LT2 model. By plugging holes under the cowling, could the dealer have restricted the airflow to my engine and caused a decrease in performance of my car?

They could have unpluged something while working on your vechile and didnt reconnect it.

I bought my car in February and today it rained all day and sometimes the rain was almost torrential. After reading all these posts i went outside to check it out and lucky me everything was dry inside. Hopefully that will never happend but thanks to everyone that has posted this problem

How many miles have you driven since they "fixed" the leaks?
I have gone about 300 miles since I picked the car up from the dealer. It has been my normal mix of highway and city driving. I haven't been stuck in any dead-stop traffic or anything like that. Except when I go on a trip, I always use the same gas station, so the gas is of the same brand and type as always too.

I bought my car in February and today it rained all day and sometimes the rain was almost torrential. After reading all these posts i went outside to check it out and lucky me everything was dry inside. Hopefully that will never happend but thanks to everyone that has posted this problem

Were you driving in it? I think most people that have had the problem saw it after driving in the rain...could be wrong. That would seem to indicate water is being forced somewhere it does not get when the vehicle is sitting parked. Or are most having the problem parked in the rain?

Were you driving in it? I think most people that have had the problem saw it after driving in the rain. That would seem to indicate water is being forced somewhere it does not get when the vehicle is sitting parked.


My leaks always occur when the car is parked. I haven't had the problem when I was driving. I drove the car from South Carolina to Ohio in rain most of the way, sometimes very heavy, and no leaks.

Just found the same problem here this morning ..... seems to have come from behind the glovebox..... water had pretty much just pooled up on the mat...not under it...(i guess thats a good thing) ... taking it to the dealer this morning ...ill let yall know what they try to blame it on in this case...wish me luck lol :(

PS... We have had this since april and had MANY bad storms (live in Tampa Bay area) ...this is the first sign of anything like this

well i got my HHR back yesterday from the dealer....They told me they replaced a gasket...told me they had the same problems in a few of the colbolts.....havent driven it much since i picked it up so i dont know hows its doing....but they didnt clean the carpet...its got brown spots on it :roll: guess ill have to do some scrubbing

well i got my HHR back yesterday from the dealer....They told me they replaced a gasket...told me they had the same problems in a few of the colbolts.....havent driven it much since i picked it up so i dont know hows its doing....but they didnt clean the carpet...its got brown spots on it :roll: guess ill have to do some scrubbing



I would expect NEW carpet. It's not your fault, remember that.

yeah...i made a mention about it but they said something about having anti mold carpet...i asked them to clean it but they didnt...i got to go back to the rear windshied wiper part that went out replaced so when i do i will bring it up then

Ours is going in while I'm on vacation next week so they can find and fix the leak. The service manager already said that after they fix it and we drive it through some rain to ensure it's really fixed, they will install new carpet. (I forgot to ask about a new floor mat though)

I gave mine to the dealer Monday for a leak that would put tons of water in the right front floorboard. They kept it for 2 days and said that a firewall gromet worked loose (or not been installed right). It would allow water into the floorboard any time we had a good rain storm. We get a lot of them in north Florida.

They kept claiming that it was an A/C problem. They told me the to check to water drain tube or bring it in and thay would look at it. I told them about a rain storm in Panama City. It was dry when I parked it and 1 inch deep after being rained on for a few hours. They finally aggreed that something was wrong.

They didn't clean the carpet before they gave it back to me. They didn't even get the water out of the carpet. I'm going in for service Saturday and I'm going to see about the brown spots on the front carpet.

Durok, look at the posts that I have put up here. I had the same thing happen and they had to replace my entire carpet in my HHR.

They replaced my carpet but wouldn't give me new floor mats. Good Luck!

well it poured like hell last night....water was in the floorboard again.....so im calling them monday

Well folks here is another leaky HHR. We had ours in a few weeks ago for a musty smell from the HVAC system. They removed the Hepa filters (?) sprayed them and the smell was gone. The other day we were in the HHR and noticed my umbrela on the floor on the passenger side was damp and didn't thin much of ituntil I removed the mat today and the floor was sopping wet. The dealer took it right in today and said they would look into it and dry out the carpets, in the mean time I have sent him the link to this forum for their guidance and will see what develops. I wonder if the musty smell was from the Cabin filter (Hepa?) being soaked... stay tuned.:confused:

Geez these HHR's seem to be like a giant seive! We have leaks from the rear, leaks from the evap box, leaks from the RS speaker, leaks from a grommet in the cowl, and leaks from the right window A pillar moulding area. Did I miss any? To do a real check for leaks, the cabin is pressurized with an inert smoke, and then searched for external smoke leaks.........someone a while ago mentioned that there were only about 10 leak complainers, I think there are more now....?

I think you are right. It seems like a good many people have leaks. When I see another HHR in a parking lot, I'm tempted to go ask the owner if theirs leaks too. Maybe a better question is has it leaked YET? My car went through a few good rainstorms before it actually leaked.

My car hasn't leaked since the last time I had it in the repair shop, but we haven't had any significant rain yet either.

Well, it's been at least three good rains since the HHR was in the shop and the good news is NO LEAKS! The tech that worked on the HHR removed the front cowl assembly and found "the cover for the fresh air intake was not sealed" solution "Reseal the cover for fresh air intake." I sure hope this is the last we've seen of our leaky HHR. BTW warranty repair N/C :thumb:

Knock on wood mine still hasn't had a problem with water leaking into anywhere in it. HOWEVER I will say this; I don't have the sunroof or leather but the one thing i particulary dont like is the way water tracks when you have your windshied wipers on and the window cracked a little for ventilization. This past weeked in Ohio it poured for a while and I went to the store and my arm was getting soaked. Maybe for the 08 models they can redesign the top so water would track off somewhere else. That pushed me to order the Vent Shades. They should be here in a few days

It does that on my ZX2. Where did you buy the VentShades from? And were they the cheapest place to buy them?

I ordered mine from AutoZone for $49.99+Tax. They should be here by wednesday. I thought about ordering them from EBAY but I don't put too much faith there. Not only that by the time you order them and pay for the shipping it almost works out cost the same. Advance Auto Parts can't even get them

I ordered mine from AutoZone for $49.99+Tax. They should be here by wednesday. I thought about ordering them from EBAY but I don't put too much faith there. Not only that by the time you order them and pay for the shipping it almost works out cost the same. Advance Auto Parts can't even get them

You should check out the supporting vendors. SoCalHHR has in channel ones I believe.

my car has been through a couple of good rains since the fix and it has not leaked again. Looks like the only leak was from the fresh air filter.

Are the In-Channel Visors better than the Out-Channels?

Here is what the in-channel visors from SoCall look like:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/1/9/9/3/HN1X7013_500.jpg

(other views in my gallery: http://chevyhhr.net/gallery/browseimages.php?c=3&userid=1993).

John

I ordered mine from AutoZone for $49.99+Tax. They should be here by wednesday. I thought about ordering them from EBAY but I don't put too much faith there. Not only that by the time you order them and pay for the shipping it almost works out cost the same. Advance Auto Parts can't even get them
The local AutoZones here don't have them yet.

The local AutoZones here don't have them yet.

NO none of the Auto Zone's have them they have to order them. One Problem; for the Ventshade the part number is 94318 the ones that outside. The ones that tuck into the seams the part number is 194318. With AutoZone's special order computers the can't order the ones that tuck in. I've tried several different places but no luck. I did find this morning this place called Cruisers here in the Dayton Ohio area and they have them IN STOCK. I cancelled my order and I'm going to pick them up tomorrow morning

I take it the In-channel ones are the better ones to get?

if you check out the ones that SoCal HHR has those are the inseam ones. It just looks cleaner on the flow. Problem is with these car's nobody has nothing for them yet. I got lucky and made a few phone calls before I left for work and found them here

I have never seen the stick-on type, so can't offer a valid comparison.

It also looks like various suppliers handle the front window shades differently. The ones I have go all the way down to the weather stripping on the door (near the mirror mount). Others look like they stop about half-way down the front of the mirror.

John

I have never seen the stick-on type, so can't offer a valid comparison.

It also looks like various suppliers handle the front window shades differently. The ones I have go all the way down to the weather stripping on the door (near the mirror mount). Others look like they stop about half-way down the front of the mirror.

John

Where did you get yours from

I have the ones from SoCal. Here is another image that shows them more close-up...

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/1/9/9/3/ventshade.jpg

Are the In-Channel Visors better than the Out-Channels?

It's really a matter of taste. They look a bit different but functionally I am not sure there is any difference. I prefer the clean look of the in-channel but that said I prefer not to have any on my rig, at least not yet...I prefer the look without.

NO none of the Auto Zone's have them they have to order them. One Problem; for the Ventshade the part number is 94318 the ones that outside. The ones that tuck into the seams the part number is 194318. With AutoZone's special order computers the can't order the ones that tuck in. I've tried several different places but no luck. I did find this morning this place called Cruisers here in the Dayton Ohio area and they have them IN STOCK. I cancelled my order and I'm going to pick them up tomorrow morning
Does cruisers have a web site? lol

I want the in channel ones. I never liked the kind that stick on to the outside.

We have several In-Channels for the HHR in stock ready to ship. They are the Auto VentShade 194318. http://defrangeautocrafts.com/hhrvisors.html

After the third trip to the dealer for leak repair I thought maybe all was good. There were a couple rainstorms and no leaks, until today... Today it rained of and on all day long. At lunchtime there was no water in the car. By 5:00 the driver's side floorboard was visibly wet and the spot was growing. Four times for repair on the same problem = lemon in South Carolina. Has anyone invoked the lemon laws and might be able to provide some advice on how to make sure I protect myself?

well it rained all day here Oct 17th - found passenger side flooded with water, enough that it was on top of the rubber floor mat that I installed. had it at the delaer next day. as per the service invoice (warranty) "resealed water deflector, "A" post seams, rightside hinges and seams. Geuss its a wait and see for the next rain storm.

well today after my 3rd trip to the dealer for the leak repair....they finally agreed to give me new carpet and padding...they didnt even try cleaning it they just said well order new padding and carpet and give you a call when it arrives.....so thats nice.....just hope that the leak dont come back again.....whats crap is that it leaked in the same dam spot...they told me the seal went bad again.....so next trip will hopefully just get new carpet and padding....

new carpet and padding installed the other day...leak seems to not be making a comeback since its rained all week its been leak free

Mine has been gone all summer long and then came back the other day.

I really like the HHR's, but right now I am trying to decide between the HHR and a Dodge Magnum. Each has it's own strengths and weaknesses. I like the HHR interior better. But if the water leak problems on the HHR's haven't been fixed in the 2007's I'll probably go with the Magnum. I'm just wondering if it's a minor issue..... not alot of members have the leak problem or not? Perhaps someone could start a poll.... those members that have had a water leak problem and those that haven't? Thanks.

I really like the HHR's, but right now I am trying to decide between the HHR and a Dodge Magnum. Each has it's own strengths and weaknesses. I like the HHR interior better. But if the water leak problems on the HHR's haven't been fixed in the 2007's I'll probably go with the Magnum. I'm just wondering if it's a minor issue..... not alot of members have the leak problem or not? Perhaps someone could start a poll.... those members that have had a water leak problem and those that haven't? Thanks.

from what i have seen on here and heard from the dealerships its a pretty small problem..theres now thousands of HHRs on the road and very few of them have this problem....i think its more of a probelm from the earlier built HHRs also.....havent heard of an 07s having the issue yet

I have a 2007. I haven't seen this pop up yet. Been through some serious torrential rain over th past month and a half so far so I'm sure it would have popped up by now.

I have a 2007. I haven't seen this pop up yet. Been through some serious torrential rain over th past month and a half so far so I'm sure it would have popped up by now.
Don't bet on it. I had a bad leak ONE time then it went away for 6 months and it just came back big time. I'm about to put a sump pump in the front passenger's side. I just lost my job today so guess I'll have lots of time to sit around the dealer waiting for the to get around to fixing it.

PS. Still a great car...I just wish it had been made here in the USA.
I don't think I'll buy another car or truck that's not made here....

well 3 1/2 weeks after new carpet was installed and the leak was "fixed my floorboard is TOTALY soaked again...standing water in the floorboard....i called my dealership and they said "well we have never been able to get it to leak here".........getting sick of this....this will be my 4th trip back to the dealer over this

I had this happen to my HHR. When I took it to the dealer they said it was a faulty sunroof. They replaced it and I haven't had any issues since.

that would nice if it was that simple....i dont have a sunroof...

Mine is in the shop for the third time for the leak, the first two times they did the repair according to the tsb, this time they are checking the windshield and sun roof. There is a small gap in the seal on the passenger side windshield that is prime suspect but they are going to check sun roof as well. I have a great service manager who actually listens to what I tell him and I gave him all the info from here so I will let you know if it gets fixed this time. It stayed dry through all the summer downpours and only started leaking very recently, I DO use the sun roof frequently but didn't during the really hot weather so that may be it.

Mine is in the shop for the third time for the leak, the first two times they did the repair according to the tsb, this time they are checking the windshield and sun roof. There is a small gap in the seal on the passenger side windshield that is prime suspect but they are going to check sun roof as well. I have a great service manager who actually listens to what I tell him and I gave him all the info from here so I will let you know if it gets fixed this time. It stayed dry through all the summer downpours and only started leaking very recently, I DO use the sun roof frequently but didn't during the really hot weather so that may be it.

ya if only i had a sunroof to blame lol....they told me they replaced some gasket once..then told me the installer didnt put it in right the next 2 times....they replaced carpet..now it leaks bad..and smells so looks like the carpet is ruined again....im getting tired of this...im droping the car off at the dealer next monday along with a copy of the Missouri lemon law ....well see what happens then

THE HHR A LEMON?? IT CAN NOT BE!!!




I wonder if MOTRV8D's future HHR would be a lemon. That would be ironic, and the irony would be funny.

it is a leak under the cowl piece. THe need to remove the pass fender, the Cowl(plastic part under the wipers) and use seam sealer on the entire seam across the cowl and down the pass side behind the fender. This is what fixed mine after i threatend litigation. My shop has now done 4 HHR's this way. I would post up the work order, but all it says is fixed leak. Apparently this area didnt get spot welded at the factory on a good % of vehicles.

Mine turned out to be a split in the drain hose from the sun roof. We'll see if this fixed it next time it rains...:)

well my HHR is at the dealer now...i mentioned the lemon law to them and they told me it only covers the vehichle if the car is unsafe...from what i read what there saying dont make sense....they said dont worry well fix it...i mentioned what jayzs2893 said about taking the fender off and sealing...he said they will look into it.....
Isnt a Mold issue something that would make the car unsafe?

well my HHR is at the dealer now...i mentioned the lemon law to them and they told me it only covers the vehichle if the car is unsafe...from what i read what there saying dont make sense....they said dont worry well fix it...i mentioned what jayzs2893 said about taking the fender off and sealing...he said they will look into it.....
Isnt a Mold issue something that would make the car unsafe?

I was going through this with a dealer. I beleave there is also a provision for greatly affecting the value of the car and also days out of service.

Missouri Revised Statutes
Section 407.567
August 28, 2000
Replacement of motor vehicle or refund of purchase price, when-- allowance deducted for consumer's use.

407.567.
If the manufacturer, through its authorized dealer or its agent, cannot conform the new motor vehicle to any applicable express warranty by repairing or correcting any default or condition which impairs the use, market value, or safety of the new motor vehicle to the consumer after a reasonable number of attempts, the manufacturer shall, at its option, either replace the new motor vehicle with a comparable new vehicle acceptable to the consumer, or take title of the vehicle from the consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price, including all reasonably incurred collateral charges, less a reasonable allowance for the consumer's use of the vehicle. The subtraction of a reasonable allowance for use shall apply when either a replacement or refund of the new motor vehicle occurs.
Refunds shall be made to the consumer and lienholder of record, if any, as their interests may appear.

Water damage is a HUGE issue. Mold/Mildew, not to mention rust. I argued this too with my dealer and they agreed. I also asked my insurance person, and he said it is equivilant with flood damage. call my service guy (302)378-9811. I worked with Debbie, but Mark Twadel is the service manager too. They have doem 5 HHR's and a Coblat with the same leak. Mine was the first one, the guinea pig.. LOL. They may be able to elaborate on the process for fixing the leak. Like i said, there is no real brakdown on my service sheet. Good Luck!! Also demand that they steam clean the carpet and/or replace it if it gets smelly.

well i did get new carpet...but that was before the 4th leak.....i just got my car back this afternoon..i asked for a new floormat...they gave me the matt from the rental HHR i had lol...told me the leak was on the firewall behind the glove box.....weird..if it leaks again i will start the lemon law process

Hey Jasz....

Just wanted to let you know, a lot of areas that was once spot welded are not done any longer. They are matched, crimped and "super puttied". There is a TSB on it somewhere. Crawl under your car sometime and look...or wait until it's on a hoist. I had to look ( from the underside) at the bottom quarter panels to inner fenders to believe it. I suspect, the seam you are describing is probably one of the puttied areas. Could be wrong.

we went to pick up are orange hhr tonite after they fixed the shifter key problem and found they had left it out during a bad rain and the pass side as 2 inches in water so we left it whats the update on what they are finding and has any one had them buy there car back any info would be nice thanxs , p.s sorry some did not like the shirt,. was only trying to be nice ,

:eek: 2 inches of water ... :frown: There is a known issue about water coming from the speakers in the doors ... something about not being sealed correctly. There is a TSB on it.
I had water on the driver's side that was supposedly coming from the cowl area. That remains to be seen though cuz it hasn't rained since I got it back... I hope they make good for you.

I had water on the passenger side and they did two unsuccessful fixes. The third time they found a split in the drain tube from the sunroof. Third time seems to have been the charm as we have had two rains with no leak.

WOW, that's a lot of water. Mines in a garage at night and haven't have a huge downpour lately. Hope I don't have that issue. :eek:

Just picked up my car today after taking it in for water on the pass side floor. They said they found where it was coming in by the cowl area. I won't know if it's fixed yet till we get rain or I take it to a high pressure wash. I will say though that the dealer was so nice and treated me so well I couldn't believe it. They sure are trying hard.:thumb:

Has anyone else had this issue yet.... ive alrady took my car in for the leak on the passenger front side back in september....now ive got it leaking in the back from the roof as indicated by the arrows ...its on both sides of the car as well.....
http://www.danlorindustries.com/leaking.jpg

I work at a Leasing Company,in the Mechianical Dept. We field calls and service Client's cars all over the USA. Ford Taurus and Mercury Sables have a TSB on water leaking thru the A/C-Heater boxes soaking the cabin filters/floorboards and they repair it with a shroud Ford calls a Rain Hat. They have not recalled these vehicles and it is a customer pay repair. I caution anyone with a leak and under warranty to try to contact their GM Zone reps about damage to wiring, connectors and on-board computers that may have water corosion damage in the future. Try to get it in writing if possible. My 07 HHR has not gotten any concerns with this and I will look on TSB's on this, I have axcess to GM website.

Water Leaking on Front Passenger Side Floor of Vehicle, Water Blowing Out of Vents (Seal Heater Core Cover) #05-01-38-016B - (08/16/2006)



Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Cobalt

2006 Chevrolet HHR

2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only
Condition
Some customers may comment on water leaking on the front passenger side floor of the vehicle. This leak would occur under high ambient temperatures and high humidity situations when the customer has the air conditioning on high. Leaks will appear to be coming from the HVAC module where the heater core cover and lower case come together. Also, some customers may comment on water droplets blowing out of the vents when the A/C is on high.

Cause
This condition may be due to water condensing in the HVAC case that adheres to the upper surface in the tongue and groove area of the lower case and then leaking out.

Correction
Install the foam gasket between the heater core cover and the lower HVAC case at the location of the leak using the procedure listed below.

NOTE:This does not seem like a rainwater condition

A.O.,Do you have roof rails? They may be letting water in there...
My rail mounting points make me nervous, look like a potential problem in the future. But I`ll bet the headliner will have to come off to tighten anything under there. Maybe some silicone spray, if you think that could be a possible source...

Nope..... no roof rails here ...... back door was securely closed as well

10-4, just a thought..B/B

I have read most of the threads regarding the water leaking in to the passenger side floor, and so far, I have only seen TSB's which seem to point to the AC or Heater core or to that effect.

However, I wanted to test this theory....I have parked the HHR in the driveway for the last 3 days now, and it has just rained. I have not driven it or started it. Sure enough, I have some drips of water, coming from the firewall area and it only can be RAIN WATER. I truly suspect that it is windshield seal or even something in that general area. I will not accept any other excuse.

BTW, this is the second incident with rain water, as the last storm a few weeks ago also caused my passenger floorboard to be soaked. Fortunately, it was not "inches" deep, like most folks. I was able to take some towels and soak up the water and after a day of air drying, was fine.

Anyway, I am not sure if it was in one of the other forums, that discussed the windshield seal for this leak. I though I would bring this up here first.

Also, it is still raining outside at this hour, and have put some extra towels to soak up the drips. Hopefully, it does not cause anymore damage. I normally have the car in the garage, but due to the remodelling of the house, the car lost to the furnishings..

Any ideas folks????

I have not had this problem. I also have not had the rain most people get, but we do get some rain.
My question and not to shoot down your idea,
But if it was leaking somewhere around your windsield, would you not have water on the dash?
The same thing if your door windows leaked would the door itself not be wet?
Also why is it only rain, why has no one had this problem caused by snow?
Sorry I dont have an answer, or even had this problem, all I can do is ask other questions :confused:

I had the same problem and had decided after having it "fixed" twice and still leaking, that it must be the windshield seal. Well I was wrong it was the drain tube from the sunroof, it had a split in it. They fixed that and no more leak...:)

Claudia

I have read most of the threads regarding the water leaking in to the passenger side floor, and so far, I have only seen TSB's which seem to point to the AC or Heater core or to that effect.

However, I wanted to test this theory....I have parked the HHR in the driveway for the last 3 days now, and it has just rained. I have not driven it or started it. Sure enough, I have some drips of water, coming from the firewall area and it only can be RAIN WATER. I truly suspect that it is windshield seal or even something in that general area. I will not accept any other excuse.

BTW, this is the second incident with rain water, as the last storm a few weeks ago also caused my passenger floorboard to be soaked. Fortunately, it was not "inches" deep, like most folks. I was able to take some towels and soak up the water and after a day of air drying, was fine.

Anyway, I am not sure if it was in one of the other forums, that discussed the windshield seal for this leak. I though I would bring this up here first.

Also, it is still raining outside at this hour, and have put some extra towels to soak up the drips. Hopefully, it does not cause anymore damage. I normally have the car in the garage, but due to the remodelling of the house, the car lost to the furnishings..

Any ideas folks????

As you know, we had a ton of snow here in Colorado and I have not experienced any leaks whatsoever. However, I do not have a sunroof either. I would venture to say that if my HHR was going to leak, it would have done it during the blizzard and over 2 feet of snow.

I had the same problem and had decided after having it "fixed" twice and still leaking, that it must be the windshield seal. Well I was wrong it was the drain tube from the sunroof, it had a split in it. They fixed that and no more leak...:)

Claudia

Now that is good news for me. I do have the sunroof, so it is surely and most likely the problem. Do you know if there is a TSB for this????

Although, there is still a chance it could be the windshield seal as others have found. Several members have the same problem and do not have a sunroof.

Also, from what I have read, the faulty seal is the lower, bottom area. This would not affect or cause the dash to be wet, unless the problem is along the top or side, then surely, I would expect to see the dash wet, and it would be more obvious.

At least I will have a few ideas and point the service folks the right direction.

I live in wa. state, yes it rains alot. I have a sunroof and do park outside, no water problems ever....

I have read most of the threads regarding the water leaking in to the passenger side floor, and so far, I have only seen TSB's which seem to point to the AC or Heater core or to that effect.

However, I wanted to test this theory....I have parked the HHR in the driveway for the last 3 days now, and it has just rained. I have not driven it or started it. Sure enough, I have some drips of water, coming from the firewall area and it only can be RAIN WATER. I truly suspect that it is windshield seal or even something in that general area. I will not accept any other excuse.

BTW, this is the second incident with rain water, as the last storm a few weeks ago also caused my passenger floorboard to be soaked. Fortunately, it was not "inches" deep, like most folks. I was able to take some towels and soak up the water and after a day of air drying, was fine.

Anyway, I am not sure if it was in one of the other forums, that discussed the windshield seal for this leak. I though I would bring this up here first.

Also, it is still raining outside at this hour, and have put some extra towels to soak up the drips. Hopefully, it does not cause anymore damage. I normally have the car in the garage, but due to the remodelling of the house, the car lost to the furnishings..

Any ideas folks????

I'll bet the source of your water leak is an improperly installed cowl seal and not a windshield leak. The seal is a thin plastic sheet under the black plastic trim panel at the bottom of the windshield on the passenger side. If it is improperly sealed to the cowl, water that runs down the windshield will leak past this seal and drip into the HVAC case and then onto the passenger floor. Have your dealer remove the black plastic trim panel and the problem will be obvious. Reseal with butyl sealant and the problem is solved. I don't know why this seems to be rocket science to most dealers as this seal is the only thing that will allow the volume of water you and others describe to flood the passenger floor.

I guarantee your problem is not a sunroof drain tube. Only a tiny amount of water leaks past the seal on a closed sunroof in the heaviest rain. If the sunroof is partially open, that's a different story.

Excellent advise, it is all making logical sense. Many thanks to all who contributed!

As far as I know there is not a TSB for this yet, but mine was not the first they had seen. I'm in a very small town with a very small dealership so if they have seen more than one of the same problem then I'd say it's fairly common.
They also said they have seen the drain tube plugged with a bit of dirt or small stone.
Claudia

Now that is good news for me. I do have the sunroof, so it is surely and most likely the problem. Do you know if there is a TSB for this????

Although, there is still a chance it could be the windshield seal as others have found. Several members have the same problem and do not have a sunroof.

Also, from what I have read, the faulty seal is the lower, bottom area. This would not affect or cause the dash to be wet, unless the problem is along the top or side, then surely, I would expect to see the dash wet, and it would be more obvious.

At least I will have a few ideas and point the service folks the right direction.

Mine had already had the other two fixes and they did find a split in the sunroof drain tube. I had over an inch of standing water in the passenger side so I know more than just a tiny bit of water can get past that seal in moderate rain. My dealer did the fix you talk about the first time I took it in and another fix the second time yet the leak continued until they fixed the sunroof drain tube.

Claudia

I'll bet the source of your water leak is an improperly installed cowl seal and not a windshield leak. The seal is a thin plastic sheet under the black plastic trim panel at the bottom of the windshield on the passenger side. If it is improperly sealed to the cowl, water that runs down the windshield will leak past this seal and drip into the HVAC case and then onto the passenger floor. Have your dealer remove the black plastic trim panel and the problem will be obvious. Reseal with butyl sealant and the problem is solved. I don't know why this seems to be rocket science to most dealers as this seal is the only thing that will allow the volume of water you and others describe to flood the passenger floor.

I guarantee your problem is not a sunroof drain tube. Only a tiny amount of water leaks past the seal on a closed sunroof in the heaviest rain. If the sunroof is partially open, that's a different story.

Mine had already had the other two fixes and they did find a split in the sunroof drain tube. I had over an inch of standing water in the passenger side so I know more than just a tiny bit of water can get past that seal in moderate rain. My dealer did the fix you talk about the first time I took it in and another fix the second time yet the leak continued until they fixed the sunroof drain tube.

Claudia

I don't doubt your experience with these nasty water leaks but I can tell you, as a designer of sunroof systems, that much water is not possible with a properly installed and sealing sunroof. There are drain tubes on each corner of the sunroof and only one is routed near the passenger floor area. I suspect the dealer fixed other areas when he did the drain tube. The important thing is that you got the leak stopped.

An easy way to tell if the problem is cowl seal or sunroof drain. Feel the bottom of the heater case or the soft fiber closeout panel under and forward of the glovebox. If they are wet after a rain, the problem is cowl seal.

My HHR will be back at the dealership on Tuesday for the 5th time with this water leak. My service guy said on the phone yesterday that it may be time to consider it a lemon. Mine has been in more times than any other HHR at this dealership. In the past two weeks I have had a number of problems:
1. in for leak #4
2. gear shift sticking
3. blowout on the highway
4. hole punctured in the radiator while on the highway
5. leak #5
I love my car, but am really having second thoughts.

I contacted a lemon law attorney today as my leaking HHR is about to go back to the dealer for the 5th time. Leaks have been repaired in the front and back, around the windshield, and under the hood but they still persist. The carpet didn't mold the first few times, but it has now. The dealer has ordered replacement carpet and floormats to be installed this week. I just don't feel optimistic that they will get the leaks fully resolved. I think it will just be a matter of time before it shows up again. Future resale value is a big concern too. I can't see getting any money for someting that has been repaired 5 times in 5 months for the same problem... I'm sure all these repairs will show up on Carfax.

I'm so disappointed about this because I really love my car.

Hi, I am new here.
HHR LT 2006 owned for 1 year almost exactly.
I had a leak (according to my dealer) near the heater core last month. Freeze/thaw/freeze this late fall caused the issue.
Had water on the passenger side, lost my fan resistor so the blower fan only ran on high, and the blower fan (when the resistor was replaced) had to be replaced due to a bearing issue.
My dealer has been stellar. NO complaints.
I've also had issues with the brake rotors. This had to be addressed twice. Seems to be resolved.

RE: the water, the dealer told me he put in some sort of "guard" to help stop water from entering into the heater core. ?? Just an FYI.

Still love the car. GREAT vehicle so far. My first GM. Won't be my last.

I've got the water leak too.. Mine's on the driver's side though. Goes in tomorrow for the second time. I guess I better check all the floor positions, driver, pass, front & rear... Maybe it is a good time to do a poll like it was suggested before.

I am havin the same problem.. I just had it happen for the first tim New years day. I hope mine is the same fix . I will let the dealer know so they can start there

Got mine back last night. The service guy said "it was a foam piece in the cowl area that wasn't installed properly" (his words, not mine). I guess we'll see the next time it rains....

Has anyone experienced a water leaking problem on the drivers side? I have had it fixed twice now when the passenger compartment filled with water after a good rain. I just wonder if it is common, or a freak. :eek:

Alot of people have. check out this thread http://chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1424&highlight=water+leak

Just curious....

How do you know it is leaking on the driver's side? You stated the water accumulates on the passenger floor:confused:

Just curious....

How do you know it is leaking on the driver's side? You stated the water accumulates on the passenger floor:confused:

He says "passenger compartment" which may just mean the interior / cab area? I think that's what he's saying... :confused:

Thank you ^^^^^^^:bow:

Thank you ^^^^^^^:bow:
De nada, mi amigo.... :D

Thanks HillsdaleHHR. After I posted this, I called the service manager to get the scoop on what was leaking. According to him, the windshield wiper motor was not sealed properly to the firewall, so water running down past the wipers was leaking into the drivers side interior. Does this make sense? Bottom line is that they said they got it fixed, and I have new carpet for the effort. The first time I think it was a weather stripping issue, but I'm not sure.

Thanks for all the feedback,

Dennis

No problem and :welcome: to the site.

Yes, :welcome:
Good to know that they found the cause AND fixed it, as well. :thumb:

I just got home from work, glance over at the floor on passenger side, 1/4 to 1/2 inch of water. @#$%^^&!
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It's hard to see but just inside the plug you can see a glistening spot. That's water!! WTF!!! How did water get there?? It looked like it was dripping from there which created the wet spot in the next pic, which in turn dripped down creating the puddle on the floor.
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I guess I'll see in the morning how bad it really is. These were taken a little after midnight.

i had leaks in the front passenger side only and it was the rubber trim next to the front windows it snaps into a channel and then its double sided taped to the metal well the tape wore off and the water was getting in through there and going down the a piller to the rug check by kick panel first and work from there i used clear rtv sealant in the channel no water leaks in almost 5 months and going

Dropped the car at the dealer, guess I'll see what happens. I told them of the problems others have had.

I've posted here before and gained lots if information from your forum that I really appreciate. You guys are a wonderful resource!

My HHR is at the dealership for the 4th time to get repaired for its water leaks. It has been there since 1/11/07. My husband talked to the manager of the dealership about getting the car replaced, but they wanted $4,500 cash or to increase my monthly payment by about $75/month!! They said the 07's were higher priced than the 06's. An increase in the price isn't an acceptable alternative. I want the car replaced without additional cost to me.

Today I called the Chevrolet Assistance number that I found in the back of the owner's manual. The number is 800-222-1020. The people I spoke to there were very helpful and sympathetic. They promised me a resolution to the problem in 2 business days and made a commitment to call me back on Thursday between 1 & 3. At the end of my call, the customer service rep asked me what my optimal solution would be. I told her that I want the car replaced with an identical new vehicle that doesn't leak. She asked what my second choice would be and I told her that I hadn't thought about that - I would probably continue to communicate with the lemon law attorney group that I had also contacted if they couldn't replace my car. I told her that I want to resolve the problem through GM's resources, but made it clear that would not be my only alternative.

I'm sorry for everyone who has had the leak-mobile experience. I have had the same leaks pop open multiple times, so I'm not confident that any repair is going to last. This time they have gutted the interior of my car and when I saw it without seats, carpeting and console, I realized that all my wiring has been submerged every time the car was wet!! I think that was the last straw for me.

Take care and I will let you know what I find out. Thanks again for all the knowledge you share on these forums.

I've posted here before and gained lots if information from your forum that I really appreciate. You guys are a wonderful resource!

My HHR is at the dealership for the 4th time to get repaired for its water leaks. It has been there since 1/11/07. My husband talked to the manager of the dealership about getting the car replaced, but they wanted $4,500 cash or to increase my monthly payment by about $75/month!! They said the 07's were higher priced than the 06's. An increase in the price isn't an acceptable alternative. I want the car replaced without additional cost to me.

Today I called the Chevrolet Assistance number that I found in the back of the owner's manual. The number is 800-222-1020. The people I spoke to there were very helpful and sympathetic. They promised me a resolution to the problem in 2 business days and made a commitment to call me back on Thursday between 1 & 3. At the end of my call, the customer service rep asked me what my optimal solution would be. I told her that I want the car replaced with an identical new vehicle that doesn't leak. She asked what my second choice would be and I told her that I hadn't thought about that - I would probably continue to communicate with the lemon law attorney group that I had also contacted if they couldn't replace my car. I told her that I want to resolve the problem through GM's resources, but made it clear that would not be my only alternative.



I'm sorry for everyone who has had the leak-mobile experience. I have had the same leaks pop open multiple times, so I'm not confident that any repair is going to last. This time they have gutted the interior of my car and when I saw it without seats, carpeting and console, I realized that all my wiring has been submerged every time the car was wet!! I think that was the last straw for me.

Take care and I will let you know what I find out. Thanks again for all the knowledge you share on these forums.


bn_here_b4.........

Seems like you are going about it the right way. You are, and should be, persistant but polite. If I may, a couple of suggestions.....

Total up the number of days the vehicle has been in the dealer FOR THE LEAKING PROBLEM. Have that number available for the GM people. Remind them of the inconvieneces regarding arranging alternative transportation, etc. (unless the dealer provided a loaner for EVERY repair date).

Remind them you are a working Mom and the vehicle is necessary for transportation to work and to transport your child to school, or whatever.

Remind the GM people that you have been tolerent with the attempts at repairs, but the leak is NOW a serious concern related to reliable transportation and health issues (mention the wet wires, mold etc.)

Be consistant in your demands, but polite (also consider a secondary resolution, but don't reveal that until YOU ARE SURE GM will not yield on a replacement vehicle). Also impress that you wish to resolve your situation rapidly, fairly. But you are prepared to solicite the services of an attorney and your state's Lemon Law. You'll get some babble about this from GM's people and it usually is a posturing.

GM may offer you a replacement with a depreciation for the time you had use of your vehicle...usually xx cents a mile. The GM rep will not mention this because it is in his interest (representing GM) to get the best deal he can for GM. This is a negotiable number.

GM is impressed with people who organize their complaints, and with this, they are more attentive (unfortunate for some people who are not....but that's the way it is).

The 2007 HHR's DID NOT INCREASE IN PRICE $4500. The dealer was scamming you. Go to chevrolet.com and build an HHR similar/same as yours. The retail price will be listed after all the options(if any) are selected.

I would ASK the GM rep. if you could select another dealer for the replacement. You have lost faith in the dealers ability to repair a problem and he mislead you on pricing. That would give credance for your request. At least it would make the dealer "stand up" and listen.


Oh, just thought....GM may guarantee the repair and want to give you an extended warranty for no addition charge, if you agree to keep the car. YOUR Decision.

Good Luck.

I eneded up having the ssame problem but on the drivers side. I took it to the dealer where they found a leak in the firewall, drivers side wire harness. They said that they fixed it after 21 days but I found my floor wet again I looked at it and found out that my weather seal around the drivers side doors were not installed properly. I took 10 min. of my time and fixed it. No more leaks now.

Mine's leaking again on the driver's side. I'm going to check out the door seals too. NJHHR, is there any telltale signs? or is it the doublesided tape thing as mentioned above?

George

Can someone post a pic of the area you are talking about on the seals?

The dealer told me there was a leak at the bottom of the windshield and also the passenger door wasn't aligned properly and it might have been coming in there. They didn't actually show me where it was leaking though. I'm hoping the problem was solved.

Update to my water issues and complaint to GM.

The dealer had my car for 9 days. The disassembled the ENTIRE interior down to bare metal. I have pictures of the gutted car and the seats dash, console, steering wheel, what have you...sitting all around it. My car filled 2 and 1/2 bays in the garage. I would post the pictures but I don't know how. Will gladly forward by email. The shop put some silver metal that looks like flashing in 3 spots on the firewall and stuck it down with some kind of gray adhesive. They also put caulk or something along the weld lines in the firewall. Then they put it all back together.

I got the car back Friday evening and drove it Saturday. It rained here all day Sunday and most of Sunday night. Monday morning - 1/4" of water standing on top of the carpet in the passenger side front floor. I have pictures of that as well.

Monday afternoon GM denied my request that they replace the car in respect of the state lemon law. The did offer to continue to repair the car and provide free extended warrranty... I already bought the extended warranty when I purchased the car, so this seems pointless. I told them they would need to do better than to offer to give me something I already paid for.

Contacted the lemon law attorney again who told me to take the car back for additional repair, just make sure to fax them all the paperwork. OK to talk to the dealer, but no more direct contact with GM. So, my husband called the service manager and the car is back in the shop and partially disassembled again. It is sitting in the car-wash bay and evidently they have been running water over it to see if they can find the leak.

If you have a serious and reccurring leak problem, document, document, document!! Photograph everything!! GM turned me down yesterday, but today I'm told by the dealer they are "trying to work something out" in light of this repair job's failure. They told my husband the Daytona Blue wasn't available on an '07 and asked what color I would prefer instead.

They told my husband the Daytona Blue wasn't available on an '07 and asked what color I would prefer instead.

This sounds promising. I have my fingers crossed for you.

Gosh, I'm really sorry that you are experiencing so much trouble. That really stinks.

Appears like you're still going through the necessary mechanisms to resolve your issue, IN YOUR FAVOR.....and I'm glad for that. It's just to bad it is so aggrevating.

Hey....just "focused" on your screen name....you might remind your dealer of that:lol: :lol: :lol: .

Well, it looks like Chevy is going to do alright by me. I just got back from the dealer where I chose a car to be transferred to my dealer from another location in the next few days. When it arrives, I get to test drive it and if all is well, they will take my car back.

I'll have to pay the difference in the sticker price of the 07 over the 06, (about $400) plus $2,100 for the mileage on my car. They are charging me 21 cents per mile for 10k miles. The car actually has almost 16,500 on it now and by the time this whole deal gets done, I'll have another 1,500 on it. Under the SC lemon law, I would only pay for 8,500 miles on the car when the leak first appeared, but the per mile rate is higher so in terms of $$$ it is about even.

It seems like a fair deal to me. Soon I'll be the owner of an 07 2LT, Imperial Blue and grey leather interior with all the options except roof rails and on-star!!

I hope the next one stays dry inside.

bn_here_b4

:yourock: Hope you can enjoy the new :hhr: when it gets here!

I will surely enjoy having dry feet! :D

I love my leaky HHr too. Even though it has been a problem, it has been lots of fun to drive. I park it by my office window so I can look out and see it while I'm at work. I love the Daytone Blue color and wish I could get that again. My car has happy memories and I will feel sad when I give up the keys.... It is a great little car - except for that persistent leak.

is this problem fixed yet?

is this problem fixed yet?
Lynus,

If you are referring to my car, I would say no. It is going back to Chevrolet, but not as a lemon. (If they wait until they are forced to acknowledge that it is a lemon, it can't be resold.) I imagine they will attempt to repair it again and sell it to someone else...

However, the car has been "repaired" 5 different times and continued to leak after each trip to the shop. I believe the only reason it hasn't leaked since the last repaired is because we haven't had a really heavy rain yet.

I think he may have been asking if this issue has been fixed in the 2007's...I'm interested if it has been also


Goose

2007 here. No problems yet.

Well, after skimming through this thread I'm not too optimistic about my situation...

We had a couple days of pretty good rain here over the last week or two, and I've never had a problem with water leaking into the interior before.

However, I when I got into the car to leave work after it had been raining all day on Monday, I noticed a nice little puddle on the floor of my car on the passenger side. Hooray!

It wasn't as big of a puddle as I'd seen in some of the pics in this thread, but it was big enough. I could see the little trail of water in the carpet where the water came in under the dash and flowed down to the floor.

I took the car into the shop this morning to let those monkeys try to fix it. Of course, I'm sure they'll just call me the next day, as they usually do, and tell me that everything's "all buttoned up" when in fact everything is just as broken as it was when I brought it in to them.

It seems that unless there's been a TSB issued for a particular problem, this dealership can't fix a thing to save their lives.

Still, keeping my fingers crossed...

"Is the problem fixed on the '07's..." Well that makes a lot more sense than when I thought the question was whether they fixed the problem on my car. Talk about a duh-uh moment. Sorry for that!! I did wonder why he was so concerned about my car though. I laughed at myself a good bit for that one.


Well, all the paperwork is complete and I will get to pick up my new (and hopefully dry) HHR next Wednesday. I have to say that Chevy gave me less of a hassle over replacing the car than I thought they might. They were actually pretty nice about it. Maybe they have had more than a few come back with the same issue?

I had gotten advice from a lawyer who specialized in lemon law, but he never really got involved. He did tell me that Chevy gave me a fair deal and while he might have gotten $100 or so knocked off, it wouldn't be worth going to court over.

Lopper, document every time you take your car in. My photographs really helped. I also had photos of the extent to which they disassembled my car to try to fix it.

If the leaks persist, maybe you will get a new car too.

My 2006 HHR has been great until I had it for 14 months.... then it started. Water that comes into the glove box on the passenger side then drips on the floor. It rained hard here today and there is 1-2 inches of standing water inside my car. No sun roof either. I have had to the local dealer 4 times and each time they told me they fixed it. It was hard to tell for a while because it remained below freezing for the past month. Now that the temperature outside is above freezing, I am vulnerable for interior flooding, mold, mildew and water rescue.
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TDUNNE, sorry to hear you are having problems. Be persistant in getting the problem corrected and http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/blackwelsh13/Smileys/bf54f4bf.gif to the site!

My 2006 HHR has been great until I had it for 14 months.... then it started. Water that comes into the glove box on the passenger side then drips on the floor. It rained hard here today and there is 1-2 inches of standing water inside my car. No sun roof either. I have had to the local dealer 4 times and each time they told me they fixed it. It was hard to tell for a while because it remained below freezing for the past month. Now that the temperature outside is above freezing, I am vulnerable for interior flooding, mold, mildew and water rescue.
:(

Unfortunately it sounds like this dealer is not very competent. I would try another dealer and insist that all new carpeting and padding be installed. If they don't want to cooperate, that's why they have lemon laws. Sorry you have had this problem. I've pressure washed mine with not a drop of water entering the vehicle.

My 2006 HHR has been great until I had it for 14 months.... then it started. Water that comes into the glove box on the passenger side then drips on the floor. It rained hard here today and there is 1-2 inches of standing water inside my car. No sun roof either. I have had to the local dealer 4 times and each time they told me they fixed it. It was hard to tell for a while because it remained below freezing for the past month. Now that the temperature outside is above freezing, I am vulnerable for interior flooding, mold, mildew and water rescue.
:(


Had a similar problem with mine the dealer ended up replacing a seal behind the compartment air filter on the firewall side. They said it had rolled up . After that there has been no problem, Hope this may help but seems your dealer does not or will not check for leaks like they should. Maybe you should go to another dealer? Keep us posted either way.. Good Luck..

My 2006 HHR has been great until I had it for 14 months.... then it started. Water that comes into the glove box on the passenger side then drips on the floor. It rained hard here today and there is 1-2 inches of standing water inside my car. No sun roof either. I have had to the local dealer 4 times and each time they told me they fixed it. It was hard to tell for a while because it remained below freezing for the past month. Now that the temperature outside is above freezing, I am vulnerable for interior flooding, mold, mildew and water rescue.
:(

That's exactly what I worry about.:( We've had our HHR for just over 18 Months and so far so good! But it really doesn't rain that much around here and I don't know what might happen if it's out in the open during one of our rare "gully washers" :roll: Last time we had one was in July last year, but the HHR was in the carport. Water level came to just about an inch from the bottom of the car though! :eek:

If your car leaks and you're waiting to get it fixed, in the meantime park where the front end is on the down slope if possible, i've noticed it works.

I need suggestions on what to do about my HHR. Mine has been in for repair of the passenger floorboard leak 7 times. Every time they just knew it was finally fixed for good, and of course it wasn't. I will run out of my warranty tomorrow, 36000 miles. I called GM last week, while it was at the dealership to file a complaint with them. They asked what I wanted to see happen, I said a new car or at least an extended warranty. Today I heard from the assistant manager of the service department at my dealership, and he offered a plan for free oil changes, lubes, and tire rotation for 4 years or 60,000 miles. Now I know this does add up to a considerable amount, but I don't feel that it has anything to do with the problem or is really enough. He insists that they will continue to fix the leak if it returns even after my warranty ends since it has been documented multiple times.
What should I do? Should I check with a lemon law attorney? How many people have received new cars for this problem? Please I need info and suggestions ASAP, before he calls back and wants an answer!!

When i wash my car or when it rains and i put my passenger side window down afterward, i have noticed that the inside of the window is wet:confused: any suggestions before it goes to the dealer?

I need suggestions on what to do about my HHR. Mine has been in for repair of the passenger floorboard leak 7 times. Every time they just knew it was finally fixed for good, and of course it wasn't. I will run out of my warranty tomorrow, 36000 miles. I called GM last week, while it was at the dealership to file a complaint with them. They asked what I wanted to see happen, I said a new car or at least an extended warranty. Today I heard from the assistant manager of the service department at my dealership, and he offered a plan for free oil changes, lubes, and tire rotation for 4 years or 60,000 miles. Now I know this does add up to a considerable amount, but I don't feel that it has anything to do with the problem or is really enough. He insists that they will continue to fix the leak if it returns even after my warranty ends since it has been documented multiple times.
What should I do? Should I check with a lemon law attorney? How many people have received new cars for this problem? Please I need info and suggestions ASAP, before he calls back and wants an answer!!

You are past the lemon law status. I believe it is for 30 days in most states. I would be persistant with Chevy and GM...let them know that it is not OK that the problem isn't being fixed. Perhaps you can take it to an authorized mechanic? Look into that or even tell them you want to take it somewhere else....get another opinion on what the problem might be.
That is my advice anyway.

I think you may have been slightly misinformed by Angel....

Quite a few members of this forum and another have pursued the Lemon Law issue with their HHR. If my memory serves me correctly 1 or 2 of them had their cars in for service for a total of 30 days....some over a period of 4-5 months...some longer.

Check the laws of Texas. Be persistent, GM does not yield easily. Also, go through your local BBB, who MAY have some clout.

This link may be of assistance....

http://www.dot.state.tx.us/services/motor_vehicle/texas_lemon_law/default.htm

Yep I was...I went off of what I was once told....totally wrong.
From what I saw....Texas' lemon law applies through the full manufacturer warranty. And it covers anything that depreciates the value of the car.
Of course I probably read wrong...LOL.
I got information from BBB....but like I said...could be totally wrong again....

I will just shut the hell up...LOL.

no one has any ideas what this could be?????

Well, if you insist....

from the outside, if it's there after washing the car:D :lol:


Seriously however, if the water is only on the window, it has to be a gasket/seal leak in the window channel or top of the door.

Snoopy, I think Angel may have hit it on the spot. He also has taken it in for the same problem 7 times with no resolution. I think that would meet the min standards for most States but I am not an attorney or expert on this so please correct me if I am wrong..

I had my 2005 Chevy Cavalier in for wet carpet 3 times. The first time they claimed they fixed the problem. 2nd time they also claimed they fixed the problem, 3rd time it sat in a "Water Bath" for four days straight and filled with water but they never could find the leak. I got a new car.

Tireman1554,
How did you get the new car? Did the dealership offer it? Did you go through GM? Did you get with a lemon law attourney?

I contacted GM's arbitration division after the second time in because they DID NOT replace the carpet. I told them if I get sick because of moldy carpey I'll be driving a Vette. After the third time it sat in that Huge shower for four days straight and filled with water, GM offered to replace it at N/C to me.

Snoopy, I think Angel may have hit it on the spot. He also has taken it in for the same problem 7 times with no resolution. I think that would meet the min standards for most States but I am not an attorney or expert on this so please correct me if I am wrong..

Yeah Julian, you're right about that. But, I was just contesting the idea of the car being over 30 days old, as not being eligible.

That's why I posted a link to the Texas Lemon Law.

Texas HHR,

I successfully had my HHR replaced due to water leaks. After my 4th time in for repair, I contacted the helpline number in the back of the owner's manual and filed a complaint with GM. During the time they were involved in processing (and denying) my complaint I also made initial contact with a lemon law atty. I called the lawyer because GM was taking too long to make a decision.

The car leaked a 5th time and I took it back to the dealer to show them the water, but refused to leave it. I told the service manager that I didn't want anymore repairs, I wanted a replacement. That was 7 AM. That afternoon Gm called to deny my request for a replacement and offer extended warranty. Bear in mind, the regional sales manger didn't know about the most recent leak or my conversation that morning with the dealership. Told the nice lady from GM that I was finalizing arrangements to hire the atty and that I felt confident that he would be able to sort this out in my favor. Called the atty who said go ahead and take the car in for repair again - don't want them to be able to say you lacked cooperation... At this point, I still didn't have any agreement to use the atty. They were still evaluating whether or not to represent me.

So back to the dealer with the car. Meanwhile the GM regional service manager and the dealer have been on the phone and agreed that there is nothing more to be done with my car. They offered me a deal to get out of the 2006 and into a 2007 which I took. I did have to pay some $$$ but I had already researched and knew what I would have to pay if they took it back under the lemon law. The amounts were about the same.

I did contact a lemon law atty., but it was late in the game and he never really got involved. By the time they called back to say they wanted to take my case, I already had a deal with Gm and they were working on locating an 07 HHR for me.

What helped me the most? I kept reading this forum and one time Snoopy answered one of my posts. He advised me to document the heck out of what was going on with my car. He said go to GM well organized and with all my facts at hand. I took that advice to heart and researched the lemon law before I contacted them. I went to another dealer as though I was going to trade my car in and my husband did the same at the dealership where we bought the car. When GM made my settlement offer, I already had 2 "trade-in" offers to compare it to. I had pictures of my car with water in it and pictures of it sitting in the dealership's garage all taken apart.

I think it helped a little to be able to tell GM that they could go ahead and pay me or else they could wait and pay me and the lawyer, but in the end the lawyer wasn't needed.

Good Luck. You can win. BTW, my 07 hasn't leaked...yet.

Bn_here_b4

I took my HHR in last week for the first time. But is the second time I saw the leak. I wanted to have someone come out and look at it so they could get some kind of Idea as to where it is comming from. They only wanted to set up an appointment. So I took it in fer the apointment and they were not able to get it to leek. So I guess I will have to wait to see it again and take it in.

for those still having leak issues find out of they removed the passenger side fender and fixed the seals...thats what they did to mine after 5 times in the shop for the same problem...

Hi, I am new here.
HHR LT 2006 owned for 1 year almost exactly.
I had a leak (according to my dealer) near the heater core last month. Freeze/thaw/freeze this late fall caused the issue.
Had water on the passenger side, lost my fan resistor so the blower fan only ran on high, and the blower fan (when the resistor was replaced) had to be replaced due to a bearing issue.
My dealer has been stellar. NO complaints.
I've also had issues with the brake rotors. This had to be addressed twice. Seems to be resolved.

RE: the water, the dealer told me he put in some sort of "guard" to help stop water from entering into the heater core. ?? Just an FYI.

Still love the car. GREAT vehicle so far. My first GM. Won't be my last.

This is the same exact problem I'm having (I think) I bought my 06 HHR used in January (had 20K) miles on it. Loved the car, the first thing I noticed was the blower fan only ran on low or high nothing in between. The dealer fixed that, I noticed the floor matte was a little wet but wasn't sure if it was from snow (we havent had a lot of rain till now) I smelled a slightly musty smell and suspected it may be leaking in the passenger front. Last night we had a downpour and I opened the car, the passenger car mat was SOAKED. I didn't see any water leaking from the seams of door, looked like it was dripping from somewhere behind/under the glove compartment.
I had my husband get an appointment for the dealer and came on this forum to investigate. I hope they find and fix problem the first time. I love the car and after swearing by Fords for years, I was hoping my luck would hold out with the new Chevy. Will see what they say next week.

Here Blondie cut and paste the below into Word, notepad or whatever you use and print them out. These are the official GM Bulletins regarding your issue. Or just print the thread, but would take less paper and ink if you copy and paste them.

Subject: Passenger Floor Wet/Blower Motor Inoperative (Install New Cowl Air Inlet Butyl Patch) #07-08-57-001 - (01/24/2007)



Models: 2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR




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Condition
Some customers may comment about water leaking on the front passenger side floor of the vehicle or that the blower motor is inoperative.

Cause
This condition may be caused by a poor fitting butyl patch at the cowl air inlet.

Correction
Replace the cowl air inlet butyl patch.

Open the hood.
Remove the left and right wiper arms. Refer to SI if necessary.
Remove the four 7 mm screws and the two push-in retainers from each side of the grille panel.
Remove the five wire harness retainers from the grille panel.
Lift the panel up and place it on the engine.
IF THE PATCH IS IN PLACE AND SEALING PROPERLY, REFER TO BULLETIN NUMBER 05-01-38-016B.
Remove the butyl patch and clean the area with a 3M™ General Purpose Cleaner, or equivalent.
Install the sealing patch to the cowl opening and apply pressure to the outer edge of the patch.
Install the air inlet grille panel and tuck the weatherstrip into the side weatherstrip that runs down the fenders.
Install the four 7 mm screws and the two push-in retainers to each side of the grille panel.
Tighten
Tighten the four 7 mm bolts to 10 N·m (89 lb in).

Install the left and right wiper arms. Refer to SI if necessary.
Close the hood.


Subject: Water Leaking on Front Passenger Side Floor of Vehicle, Water Blowing Out of Vents (Seal Heater Core Cover) #05-01-38-016B - (08/16/2006)



Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Cobalt

2006 Chevrolet HHR

2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)




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This bulletin is being revised to provide the part number of the screw that is required for the Cobalt and Pursuit models. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 05-01-38-016A (Section 01 -- HVAC).


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Built Prior to the Following VIN Breakpoints: Model
VIN Breakpoint

Cobalt/Pursuit
67661747

HHR
6S551004


Condition
Some customers may comment on water leaking on the front passenger side floor of the vehicle. This leak would occur under high ambient temperatures and high humidity situations when the customer has the air conditioning on high. Leaks will appear to be coming from the HVAC module where the heater core cover and lower case come together. Also, some customers may comment on water droplets blowing out of the vents when the A/C is on high.

Cause
This condition may be due to water condensing in the HVAC case that adheres to the upper surface in the tongue and groove area of the lower case and then leaking out.

Correction
Install the foam gasket between the heater core cover and the lower HVAC case at the location of the leak using the procedure listed below.

Thanks ^^ I copied and pasted in word.
I'm sure the dealer "should know" the hit list but I'll print it out anyway.

True they should, but it doesn't hurt to be well armed. I found that being well informed is better than being clueless. You would be surprised how much I find out from my customers when they come to see me at the dealer.

Nite31.....

I wish to be the first to commend you. You appear to be an excellent service tech.:bow: :thumb: :one:

And, I'm really a vocal guy in regard to the lack of current dealer technician abilities.

Thanks for posting the TSB, etc. Because AllData, which is providing some service, does not list all of them.

My husband and brother were both ASE certified state insp. mechanics in PA/DE awhile ago.
Don't worry, I go in fully armed! LOL.
The reason why some of the newer dealer techs are not as knowlegeable as few years ago, the dealers keep hiring new blood at lower rates and the older guys get squeezed out.
The flat rate system can be great or hell depending on if the shop is busy or stuck with warranty work. Feast or famine sometimes. That is why they both got out of auto biz.

Nite31.....

I wish to be the first to commend you. You appear to be an excellent service tech.:bow: :thumb: :one:

And, I'm really a vocal guy in regard to the lack of current dealer technician abilities.

Thanks for posting the TSB, etc. Because AllData, which is providing some service, does not list all of them.

Well Snoopy, you might be surprised, but I am not a tech, but thank you for the comment.:bow: I am an Assistant Service Manager, but most time do feel like a tech.

I have a small water problem and can’t find where it is coming from? I took it to the dealer they cleaned it a little and told me to bring it in next time it gets bad. Here is a photo of the damage after they cleaned it. Any ideas??:confused:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/1/4/0/1/water.JPG

Oh yea this is on the passenger side door. I never use that door or open the windows.

You don't have roof rails or a sunroof so, just some thoughts.....

The water appears to be concentrated to the upper rear of the front passenger door. Since water "runs" downhill, I would look at the weather stripping BACK and assure it is positioned correctly and secure. I believe someone once had a leak problem with the roof and structure seal. Although I believe it was in the rear above the lift gate.

There are trouble shooting methods to locate these types of problems. Did your dealer employ any of these or did they just clean the material?

I was in a car accident and had ended up getting a HHR for the rental and LOVED IT:banana: , not only that but have decided that I am interested in getting rid of my gas guzzling Outback and purchasing a HHR.

I found this forum, and have found it to be very informative. One question I do have is in regards to the 2007 model if this water leakage issue has been rectified. Are there any other bugs that I should be on the lookout for?
I appreciate any feedback or info that you could pass on! :thumb:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/hollyeclark1/af67ea7d.gif to the site Bssgrl! Start a new thread in General HHR stating your desire for HHR info and you will get plenty of responses.

Thanks for everyone's input, it's funny but the water problem is what got me on the site. The HHR is going in to dealer next thursday and I will go with my print outs on problem areas. At least I know I'm not imaging things with the musty smell.
What worries me is I just got the car in January, I wonder if the previous owner returned the car because of that problem?
What if it's been leaking for almost a year? I am allergic to mold and my allergies have been worse the past few weeks than they have been in over 10 years, coincidence I hope!!!??
I'm going to take pics, I pulled up the passenger side door mat and water just dripped off of it. Sunday we are getting a Nor'easter with high winds and rain so I can imagine what the carpet will look like, I'm going to see if I can throw a tarp over it.
Well not sure if they fixed the problem in the 07's or if they are too "NEW" to have the problem yet. Hopefully Chevy took the hint and fixed it.
I'm hoping to have good luck at the dealer. Cross your fingers!

You don't have roof rails or a sunroof so, just some thoughts.....

No I do not have rails or a sunroof.


There are trouble shooting methods to locate these types of problems. Did your dealer employ any of these or did they just clean the material?

I think they only tried to clean it (I do not know for sure). The dealer tried to tell me that it may be dirt from people’s hands (unlikely) or that I left my window or door open (I never open my windows and hardly use the passenger door).


I am going to take my HHR to the car wash to see if it gets wet again. From what I can find on the forum this is not a common problem. Thanks for your help Snoopy!:thumb:

Update: Well it rained again... More water.. Took it back for service and now they will replace the headliner and try to find the problem.

If you don't have anything mounted to the roof, it is more than likely pushing in around a bad door gasket. Now if that was a squad car I would say it was hair gel stains from prisoner's heads.

If you don't have anything mounted to the roof, it is more than likely pushing in around a bad door gasket. Now if that was a squad car I would say it was hair gel stains from prisoner's heads.

:laughabov
Yea I dont have gel heads in my car! :nuts:

:frown: bummer, the dealer says it fixed my water problem I had 2 leaks but not in the roof, they said there was one at the door frame pillar gasket and one at the HVAC case. I'm taking it to the car wash tomorrow - So we shall see if it's REALLY fixed.
The dealer said they hired a "leak specialist" to work one day a week at the dealership, guess the 06 HHR's have issues in this area :frown:

Feed me enough beer and I could be a leak specialist too. :lol:

Never really heard of such a job title.

Feed me enough beer and I could be a leak specialist too. :lol:

:laughabov :rof: :rof: :rof:

:frown: bummer, the dealer says it fixed my water problem I had 2 leaks but not in the roof, they said there was one at the door frame pillar gasket and one at the HVAC case. I'm taking it to the car wash tomorrow - So we shall see if it's REALLY fixed.
The dealer said they hired a "leak specialist" to work one day a week at the dealership, guess the 06 HHR's have issues in this area :frown:


Have any photos of this?

I have a 2006 HHR, first I had the whole need a steering column to cure the "can't get my key out of the ignition" and clunking noise issues and not a month later I had a flood on my passenger floor during a rain. Dealer said it was not an outside leak but a bulletin on the car for some kind of gasket that had something to do with the air conditioning but later called to say that some housing in the dash had completely collapsed and was actually channeling water right into the blower motor which they did replace. This too is all a bulletin on the car and has to be fixed by dealership! They dried my carpet and when I picked it up it was completely dry, clean and smelled great. I have been to the dealership more than I care to be but they seem to know the problem right away, they get it fixed, and I still love the car. Good luck. BTW, I left my car out in the rain today on purpose and no leak.

They fixed my leak. It was leaking in 2 places (door frame A pillar and something around the cowl/fresh air intake?) hasn't leaked since and we've had some downpours.

Thanks for everyone's input, it's funny but the water problem is what got me on the site. The HHR is going in to dealer next thursday and I will go with my print outs on problem areas. At least I know I'm not imaging things with the musty smell.
What worries me is I just got the car in January, I wonder if the previous owner returned the car because of that problem?
What if it's been leaking for almost a year? I am allergic to mold and my allergies have been worse the past few weeks than they have been in over 10 years, coincidence I hope!!!??
I'm going to take pics, I pulled up the passenger side door mat and water just dripped off of it. Sunday we are getting a Nor'easter with high winds and rain so I can imagine what the carpet will look like, I'm going to see if I can throw a tarp over it.
Well not sure if they fixed the problem in the 07's or if they are too "NEW" to have the problem yet. Hopefully Chevy took the hint and fixed it.
I'm hoping to have good luck at the dealer. Cross your fingers!



tell them you would like the carpet replaced...they shouldnt have a problem with it....the dealer i go to the service manager is allergic to mold so he mentioned i get new carpet after 4 trips to get the leak fixed...they ordered it in and replaced it.....came out like new again....:thumb:

Well since they fixed my leak on the first try (so I hope) fingers crossed and the smell is gone I think it's okay, once it dried out. I did take pics of the leak just in case it decides to come back.
I dropped my lipgloss leaning over taking the pic, you can see it's over an inch deep.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/HONEYBZ71/hhr4-07waterproblem002.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/HONEYBZ71/hhr4-07waterproblem001.jpg

All of this kinda makes me "cringe" when I think about the 2001 Monte Carlo LS that I just traded in for my 07 HHR. I noticed a floorboard full of water on the passenger side of the Monte Carlo and found where it came from. It was the cabin filter box. The water was running directly into it and dripping into the passenger floorboard. Surprisingly, there wasnt a filter in the box at all when I looked and I never knew that one was made to fit there. I did "my" quick fix by covering the square box with plexiglass and sealing it in place but leaving enough room for the fan to suck some air. I never had a wet floorboard again. If I ever see my HHR get wet, the cabin air filter will be the first thing I check.

Holy crap!!! I've never seen that much water in a car before! That is crazy...knock on wood, I hope that issue has been fixed in the 07's! I've been through some heavy rains and a car wash so far and nothing yet




Goose

With only a few hundred miles on my 07 and several car washes, I've seen no signs of leaking anywhere. Perhaps Chevy learned from their mistakes and have the problem corrected. Time will tell. Fingers are crossed............

[QUOTE=Blondie;152469]
I dropped my lipgloss leaning over taking the pic, you can see it's over an inch deep.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/HONEYBZ71/hhr4-07waterproblem002.jpg

:eek: Yipe!! Did you have a Life Guard on duty?:roll:

With only a few hundred miles on my 07 and several car washes, I've seen no signs of leaking anywhere. Perhaps Chevy learned from their mistakes and have the problem corrected. Time will tell. Fingers are crossed............

Not to scare you even more but some people did not have this problem until months after owning their cars.