Do any of you watch this show on Comedy Central? What' your take on it?

I happened to run across last night's show and he did a skit called "Are you smarter than a wetback?" There were some really funny parts in it like the contestant couldn't get any answers right ( because they were rigged) and instead of winning money for right answers, he lost his citizen status for wrong ones. With each wrong answer he went from a U.S. citizen to a green card holder to a documented alien then finally to an illegal alien.

I started telling someone at work about it then started worrying whether I was offending someone. I don't normally refer to hispanics by that name. Does Mencia have the right to make fun of his own nationality? That is, I'm assuming he is hispanic. I've see others make fun of their own race, sex, or sexual orientations. I've heard discussions on TV that comedians have this right but others, like Imus, do not. I understand the concept of laughing at our shortcomings. But I'm not certain if I'm allowed to laugh without offending others. I'm so confused!

Well, being the gay man, I can speak about the sexual orientation part. I don't mind people having fun and joking around but there are a few trigger words that I think should never be used.

Don't worry Carlos Mencia makes fun of everyone equally but he's never overly mean to the point of offending. :lol: He is a comedic genius. :bow: If you can't laugh at his ethnic stereotype jokes then you are way too stuck up. He is a throw back to old school blue comedy. :thumb: I myself laugh at Italian jokes as long as their not spiteful and mean. There is usually some truth to the stereotypes purveyed in a joke. When you here one you always know somebody that matches the stereotype of the joke. There is always a friend, acquaintance, or family member that matches the stereotype. And yes just like any other race or type of person I make certain jokes and use certain slang with people of my own race that only we can use with each other. If it were to come out of anyone else's mouth it would be derogatory. For example I can call one of my friends a greasy guido bastard and get away with it. If someone else were to say it that wasn't Italian it would probably cause a fight.

I guess I should point out my making stereotype jokes with friends extends to all my hispanic, black, white, asian, gay, religious, and so forth friends. We can equally make fun of each other with few limitations because we are doing it in fun and know that each other aren't racist or bigots. But when it comes to types of friends other than Italians there are certain rules and words I would never use. Like I would never use the N word ever........period. No matter how close I am with a person that is one word I feel should never leave anyone other than a black persons mouth. I guess it all depends on your level of comfort and friendship with a person. Of course I would never act that way to strangers.

....have this right....
...a right, defined by whom.

Becareful with this one gang, it does have the potential to get way out of hand, as history on this forum has proven.

mencia is not mexican, he's honduran and german. He also steals jokes from other comics, both known and unknown. This guy is a "JOKE".

Here's a youtube sample of Joe Rogan (http://www.joerogan.net/main.php?archives=1&article=44170) arguing with Mencia about how he steals material.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsq1uTLBHBc

You can also do a search for carlos mencia on youtube to find more posts about him "borrowing" material.

capt, excellent post...
i mean really WTF is wrong with ppl? they are JOKES...

and can he make fun of his own race? why not, black call each other "nigg*r" and its no big deal, so i can call wetbacks, wetbacks, and no big deal....

usually only racial, stereotypical jokes are offensive to stuck up, uptight bastards

one of my better friends, peter, is a black dude, and times we would go at it back and forth with racial jokes in good fun...

hmm i was about to type a few jokes... but im sure id get banned or some whiny p***y would report me... so be it...

thanks! :thumb:

ph yea, and mencia has been accused by Gee-Lo to have ripped off his jokes as well...and as far as joe rogan is concerned, fawk that fool who is he anyways, damn washed up moron

I would categorize Mencia a "comedic genius" only in the way he delivers the material, not due to the originality of his material. Much of the stuff he discusses I've heard most of my life, but he does give it a new spin or twist that makes it hilarious. I love his show, just like I love the Chappelle Show. What happened to Imus sucks - I'm not a fan of his, as I never listened to him. However, Mencia and Imus and Chappelle are only perpetuating what we as "ethnic minorities" (for lack of a better term) have been doing for YEARS - making fun of ourselves, making fun of our stereotypes, and creating monikers, euphemisms, and delivering it all in the context of a good time, not necessarily a flat-out joke that is delivered on stage. This will, and should, continue, in my opinion - why? Because even if we reach a stage where political correctness takes hold and eliminates all references to minorities and associated stereotypes, we as ethnic minorities will continue to do so anyway. Those of you who are not WASPS know exactly what I mean - get a group of your friends together, and the first thing we do is start joking about things that have to do with our nationality, race, gender, stereotype, etc. Heck, I know I do! :thumb:

P.S. - If you haven't seen his short skit called "Wetback Mountain," you should do a search on Video Google or YouTube - Mencia and Mario Lopez are hilarious!:lol:

I would categorize Mencia a "comedic genius" only in the way he delivers the material, not due to the originality of his material.

That's what I meant. There are plenty of comedians out there with similar material and there are many before Mencia. I think that's mainly why Joe Rogan is giving him a hard time. Of course there are jokes that are like others but I don't think he ever directly plagiarized another comedian. When Joe got on him about supposedly being half German he produced his green card. Like it was pointed out who is Rogan to talk anyways. :lol: He's probably just starting crap so people remeber who his washed up lame ass is. Mencia is hot right now so why not pick a fight to keep attention on yourself. I don't know the whole story behind George Lopez jacking Mencia up and I don't think any of us will so I won't even get on that. That's between those two men.

Captain -

Glad you brought up George Lopez - wasn't even thinking about him while I wrote my earlier post(s). Lopez' stand-up is pretty much a recounting of my childhood memories, all while surrounded by my family. Funny stuff, man, no other way around it.

My wife, who is not a minority, sat down to watch Lopez' "Why You Cryin'" with me one evening, and I pretty much said: "Listen to what he's saying, and you'll understand my family that much more." Everything Lopez says in that bit encapsulates several events from my past.

I hope they all keep it coming.

so you're telling me mencia isn't stealing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCixAktGPlg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOnPFix5uLE&mode=related&search=

I watch Lopez's show every week. I grew up loving comedians like Red Foxx, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, and so forth so I have never had a problem with ethnic humor. I understand that it's just comedy! :lol:

so you're telling me mencia isn't stealing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCixAktGPlg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOnPFix5uLE&mode=related&search=

Yup. I'm sure you could go through lots of comedians routines throughout the years and find similar jokes. It's just a coincidence and it's not verbatim. I mean how many songs have the same title. Would you accuse them of stealing? The Jesus thing was funny and there was a lot more to it than just that little bit. :roll:

Songs with the same titles cannot be considered as stealing if the lyrics are different.

i cant think of another comedian that "borrows" from other comics and profits off those jokes.

[QUOTE=HHR PNOY;140421]so you're telling me mencia isn't stealing?

Not at all what we're saying: As stated in my earlier post: "I would categorize Mencia a "comedic genius" only in the way he delivers the material, not due to the originality of his material. Much of the stuff he discusses I've heard most of my life..."

I love when I have my cell set on one of my Mencia tones and he makes fun of me. I have one where he calls you a f'ing loser for downloading his ringtone. :lol: Or the one where he tells me when I set my phone to vibrate put it in my front pocket not my back pocket so I don't look like a..........:lol: As you can tell I'm easily amused. I have 15 Mencia ringtones on my phone as of right now. :lol:

So it was ok to laugh? Because I thought it was a riot. I don't catch his show often but I did see another where he played a middle eastern quick shop owner and I died laughing at it also. I think I'll need find out the regular timeslot.

Need a good laugh? Comedy Central is on channel 56 on our cable provider and Fox News is on 55. Talk about two far extremes. There's a contrast for you!

well damn...i remember the whole wall thing..
matter of fact when i was with my family when we heard abot it, i was like uhh quien lo va acer? todos los mojados? "who is gonna make it? all the wetbacks?" i mean i should be credited with making up the joke then....

i even remember hearing a friend of mine saying the FEMA thing b4 Gee-Lo said it on his hbo thing... he said fema = find every mojado around ... gee-lo said fema = find every mexican available... again think we deserve credit...

i mean damn there are similarities in all the jokes, but i guess who ever says it better is credited with the joke? so i would guess its not "borrowing"

i think i read joe rogan is gonna release a comedy cd...WHEN IN THE HELL did he ever become a comic? he totally FU**ED up the MAN SHOW along with that other dumbass, so now he is a comic? why not pick fights with mencia to get some light on himself? stupid man

PhxHHr, you are right, all the stuff lopez says ive heard all my life too...i think all of us who ever heard our parents say "do it again, that way you learn...que te quite lo baboso, do it again" maybe we should get like 10 cents for everytjime he says it...

explain how a comic making fun of his/her background and a comic telling a joke about jesus (sam k. joke) or raising a son to be a good football player (bill cosby joke) the same thing? Everyone has life experiences and call tell their stories their way, even though millions of people has lived the same life experience. But to repeat someone's material that was made up (not a life story) and change the words around to make it their own is just plain stealing.

I see your point about comics such as chris rock and lopez making digs about the way their grew up, and telling the stories in a funny way. Everyone has a funny story about how they grew up.

well damn...i remember the whole wall thing..
matter of fact when i was with my family when we heard abot it, i was like uhh quien lo va acer? todos los mojados? "who is gonna make it? all the wetbacks?" i mean i should be credited with making up the joke then....

Maybe if you made the career choice to become a comedian and told this joke before the other comics did you might be getting paid by now. :D

I just dont find mencia funny. To tell jokes is one thing, hell to steal jokes is another thing but to make a career out of making fun of the metally handicapped? Maybe he's just re-telling the audience his life story...dee deee deeee!

So it was ok to laugh?
Sandy - of course it was ok to laugh - as long as your laughing wasn't directed at any nappy-headed folks. :lol: :p:
Anyway, enjoy it and laugh for two reasons:
1) It's hilarious!
2) It will never go away.

I love this kind of stuff. I mean, Chappelle's "The Niggar Family" is one of the FUNNIEST things I've ever seen on TV. Too bad he ended up delirious in Africa and cut the show short, though.... :lol:

he totally FU**ED up the MAN SHOW along with that other dumbass

That's the same way I feel. I loved The Man Show up until Adam and Jimmy leaving it. Then I pretty much stopped watching. :(

Sandy - of course it was ok to laugh - as long as your laughing wasn't directed at any nappy-headed folks. :lol: :p:
Anyway, enjoy it and laugh for two reasons:
1) It's hilarious!
2) It will never go away.

I love this kind of stuff. I mean, Chappelle's "The Niggar Family" is one of the FUNNIEST things I've ever seen on TV. Too bad he ended up delirious in Africa and cut the show short, though.... :lol:

I agree. As far as nappy headed I don't view that as derogatory toward any race. I've met nappy headed people of every race. I think Imus crossed the line by calling the women hos. I have met very few women that enjoy being called a ho. It's okay if you're close friends with a girl and bust her balls by saying, "You're such a ho!" then you both have a good laugh, but if you walk up to some random woman on the street and deliver the same line you better be prepared for the backlash. :lol:

Don't even start on "The Man Show". What a pathetic excuse to watch women's boobs bounce up and down!

Don't even start on "The Man Show". What a pathetic excuse to watch women's boobs bounce up and down!

And drink beer! :beer: The boobs were nice but the humor was key. ;) Kind of like The Benny Hill Show. :lol:

And drink beer! :beer: The boobs were nice but the humor was key. ;) Kind of like The Benny Hill Show. :lol:


LMAO *the benny hill theme is playing*
oh yea benny had that end shot of his angels runing in slow mo... ahh that was like porn for 10 yr old boys who watched that show way back in the day..and for the mexicans, so was a show called " a la cama con porcel" lmao

do you remember in the man show when that girl squirted milk all over some dude when they were talking about boob milk? class all the way :thumb:

or when thay one dude asked peter north to sign his pipi? and Mr North looked down at him and said "how about i initial it?" doesnt get any better than that

hell i even think on the man show they did something with the mojados when they were working on some bulding and the guy went in a portable hottub in a limo or something?

I just thought of a weird double standard while driving to the gas station. It's okay to laugh at Jeff Foxworthy's lame you might be a red neck jokes but its controversial if a comedian like Mencia, Rock, or Chappelle start making stereotype jokes. I'm not mocking red neck humor because Ron White is my man and a few other red neck comedians make me laugh but I find that kind of weird. :confused: Even though I called Jeff Foxworthy's comedy lame I have to admit that some stuff is spot on and funny but most of it is lame. :lol:

Don't even start on "The Man Show". What a pathetic excuse to watch women's boobs bounce up and down!
Like we need an excuse...... :lol:

I just thought of a weird double standard while driving to the gas station. It's okay to laugh at Jeff Foxworthy's lame you might be a red neck jokes but its controversial if a comedian like Mencia, Rock, or Chappelle start making stereotype jokes. I'm not mocking red neck humor because Ron White is my man and a few other red neck comedians make me laugh but I find that kind of weird. :confused: Even though I called Jeff Foxworthy's comedy lame I have to admit that some stuff is spot on and funny but most of it is lame. :lol:
Excellent point, CH - I'd never thought about it that way, but there may very well be some contingent of Kentuckians who are raising a ruckus in response to Foxworthy's jokes. Too bad they don't have electricity or telecommunication services to relay their objections, though.

I find Mencia funny, and agree with him that everyone in this country takes everything way to seriously. take for example this thread, from the sixth post people started arguing. Lighten up and just laugh guys and gals. The world will be a much better place. :thumb:

Sorry, but I think I missed the arguing part. I thought we had a pretty debate going. At least that's what adults call it.

I forgot all about Blue Collar Comedy. I guess I can relate to them because I am caucasian and live in the south. My father has a redneck only because he refused to use sunscreen. On a daily basis I travel past homes that look similar to Jeff Foxworthy's Yard of the Week.

Ok, I planning laughing at all of them no matter what nationality. One of my favorite skits ever was Sinbad talking about his childhood and having to get indoors before the streetlights came on. I wish he would do more stand-up. We all need to take our lives a little less seriously!

I saw Mencia when he came to Boston a few months back...never laughed my ass of so much in one sitting :lol:

Does he steal jokes?? No idea because I very rarely watch standup comics...do I care?? Hell no!!!


Goose

One of my favorite skits ever was Sinbad talking about his childhood and having to get indoors before the streetlights came on.

That was my rule growing up in the ghetto. :lol: I had to be in as soon as the street lights came on. I think that's part of every inner city kid's rules. ;) :lol:

One of my favorite skits/scenes from a movie is from Cheech and Chong:
Cheech is in the living room of the run-down house he shares with Chong, struggling to come up with verses and lyrics for a song he calls "Mexican Americans." He continues by singing about the stereotypical things Mexicans do and say, especially the two-syllable nicknames we all give each other (Nana, Tito, Chapa, etc.) Then Chong retorts by saying he has a better version of Cheech's song. He quickly demonstrates by strumming a chord on his guitar and begins singing "Beaners......."
Short, to the point, and funny, I tellya. And I'll add that Cheech, in his various appearances in movies, sitcoms, etc., laid the groundwork as early as the 70's for the ability to make fun of Mexican stereotypes, then and now. This includes the skit he took part in on Mencia's show which was a send-up of "The Sopranos" entitled "The Serranos." More funny stuff, I tellya..... :lol:

I think that the main reason that this topic has gone so far is that Joe Rogan is not funny and most people don't even know that he thinks he's a comedian. He just wants some press to try and get people out to his shows. If Carlos steals someones joke it is their responsibility to do something about it.

Sorry, but I think I missed the arguing part. I thought we had a pretty debate going. At least that's what adults call it.


Taken from the Wikipedia website:
Debate (North American English) or debating (British English) is a formal method of interactive and position representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument, since it includes persuasion which appeals to the emotional responses of an audience, and rules enabling people to discuss and decide on differences, within a framework defining how they will interact.

That said :D my original statment stands.

with anything, it all boils down to being accountable to yourself. Its hard for people to understand that the same rules don't apply to everyone and that there are different standards.

Any racial slur will have a different consequence for different people. The way that a community of people may talk to each other is totally different than how someone on the outside of that community should do.

The problem is this feeling of entitlement and people feeling like they can say or do whatever they want under free speech. THat's true...you may not go to jail, but you might catch an $#%& whoopin'.

I'll never understand why people feel like they have to have every privilege in the world and why some things are just off limits