View Full Version : Check Engine Light came on after Coolant Guage stop working!


STR8SiqHHR
05-18-2007, 01:58 PM
So my coolant gauge stop working the other day, which wasn't s shock to me because this has happened to me several times before, started about 6 months ago, and apparently is common with HHR's. I've had my HHR a year and 1 month. Usually the coolant gauge would work again after about 5 to 10mins. But this time not so. After 10mins the Check Engine light came, so now I'm like s@#.:roll: The HHR was fine, drove home fine, I felt nothing in the engine that was different. I was hoping I wasn't one of those with the misfire issue. So I stopped at the AutoZone where I work and grabbed the code scanner. (Not wasting my time at the dealer to pull a ECM code. The first code reader just said link error. Then I tried the newer one we just got in. It linked saw 2 codes;:wtf: great I'm thinking got the codes, both the same code. P0128 - Coolant Temperature - Below Thermostat Regulating Temperature. Basically, it's not getting warm enough. Which was true. I had the heater on burn, and it was a mild warm, I have had it so hot in there, my skin felt sunburned. Of course like others, the DIC said --- under Coolant Temp, no surprise. So I cleared the code, when I did that, the gauge starting working, :confused: Hummm. Checked coolant, overflow was low, but when I squeezed the lower hose, coolant pushed back through the radiator through the upper hose. So I topped off the coolant bottle. Drive my baby for about an hour 30 on the highway 30 on the street. The heat got hotter checked DIC and coolant level was 183 to 217, at which point the fan kicked, and it cooled real fast to 185, and would not go any higher then 211 from the point on, which is where it usually stays when I am in traffic on a normal Cali day in Spring. The gauge stayed on the whole time, and no check engine light. Then I remember another side effect of the coolant gauge not working is loosing the A/C. So I turned it on, full blast, with in not even a min gauge went down, DIC said --- and A/C was no more. :cussing: Damn! And a bunch of other "French" words. So now she is at the dealer, since the light had not come back on yet, they said they’d see if they could pull a code. They're for sure going to check the gauge issue, the Service Adviser suspected a cooling system issue. But he's not the tech so who knows. Soon as I do I'll post it. Good thing my local dealer is pretty good and it's under warranty. It just sucks not having my baby.

Snoopy
05-18-2007, 04:05 PM
You might refer your dealer to TSB 06-06-02-013A

Not saying this is the problem...but sounds like it.

BullyWagon
05-18-2007, 06:47 PM
Had the same thing happen to mine off and on for months, turned out the thermostat was stuck open (better open than closed!). The dealer put a new one on and haven't had a problem since...

STR8SiqHHR
05-29-2007, 06:58 PM
So it's been a full week since I got my HHR back. Seems the issue with the Check Engine light was the Thermostat was stuck open. Which was a good thing, so they replaced that. The coolant gauge and A/C not working was because the battery run down protection thought the battery had drained before :confused:, and that was causing the PCM to shut the gauge off. Sound weird to me. Any how they loaded some update to the PCM, and they checked some wire I guess that's close to the engine block in the rear, what wire I am not sure, on the invoice it said brown wire checked for cracks and if touching the engine block. Apparently this has been a issue with some HHR as it states the tech called GM to verify. Anyhow, runs like a champ (did before that anyway) and I got A/C just in time for summer and my gauge is working.

GDZHHR
05-29-2007, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the update.

hnewagn
07-27-2007, 07:46 PM
It happened to my car today

dktalbert
10-04-2007, 09:03 PM
Couple days previous to what is being described here I got a message saying my gas cap was loose. When I got home I opened it up... it looked secure. So I opened and closed it. Restarted my car and it went away.

Then today I have the Engine light pop on and stay on. I start scrolling through my DIC and notice that my Coolant Temp is reading - - - like you mention. My coolant's tempature is not reading anything on my main display either. I figure I may as well see if it needs coolant and get some of that 50/50 DEXCOOL and top it off. Only uses about a quarter of the gallon before its full. Engine is warm but not hot... so I figure that isn't it.

And that is about as far as I've gotten...

I am not as savvy as the original poster... what is my next logical step?

BullyWagon
10-04-2007, 09:09 PM
More than likely it is the thermostat stuck open. Won't kill the car but will make your gas mileage suck. Should have it looked at by a professional.

lcbarrett
10-09-2007, 01:47 PM
Couple days previous to what is being described here I got a message saying my gas cap was loose. When I got home I opened it up... it looked secure. So I opened and closed it. Restarted my car and it went away.

Then today I have the Engine light pop on and stay on. I start scrolling through my DIC and notice that my Coolant Temp is reading - - - like you mention. My coolant's tempature is not reading anything on my main display either. I figure I may as well see if it needs coolant and get some of that 50/50 DEXCOOL and top it off. Only uses about a quarter of the gallon before its full. Engine is warm but not hot... so I figure that isn't it.

And that is about as far as I've gotten...

I am not as savvy as the original poster... what is my next logical step?
Does anyone know what the code is for this error? I'm having the same issue and am hoping it is not my thermostat stuck open!

JoeR
10-10-2007, 08:57 AM
Does anyone know what the code is for this error? I'm having the same issue and am hoping it is not my thermostat stuck open!

DTC P0128 is "Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Below Thermostat Regulating Temperature".

You can get a DTC scan free at many auto parts stores. I know Autozone does it around my area.

Hope this helps.

dktalbert
10-10-2007, 08:11 PM
Okay so since I last posted I have done nothing. The coolant temperature kept reading - - - up until a couple days ago. When it suddenly started working again. And the AC and heat both started working again. Still had the engine light on though...

Then two days ago I got the Gas Cap Open warning again. Several hours later, the coolant temperature started reading - - - again and guess what... the AC stopped working again.

Weird how the Gas Cap Open warning always seems to precede the coolant temperature reading going out again.

Snoopy
10-10-2007, 09:37 PM
Okay so since I last posted I have done nothing. The coolant temperature kept reading - - - up until a couple days ago. When it suddenly started working again. And the AC and heat both started working again. Still had the engine light on though...

Then two days ago I got the Gas Cap Open warning again. Several hours later, the coolant temperature started reading - - - again and guess what... the AC stopped working again.

Weird how the Gas Cap Open warning always seems to precede the coolant temperature reading going out again.

I'd say you have a loose harness connection someplace.:D

itschaboykenny
10-10-2007, 10:51 PM
P0128 - Coolant Temperature - Below Thermostat Regulating Temperature. Basically, it's not getting warm enough. .

Here's the Code.

STR8SiqHHR
10-11-2007, 08:19 PM
Take it in to the dealer I would bet to say similar if not same issue. I did not include it in my original post, but I too got CEL for the gas cap which was secure also. After I cleared the code then it came back on again and was giving off the code P0128. I cleared the code twice and with in 30 mins of driving the light would come right back on.The only way to get the gauge and AC to work is to either clear the code or remove the red 50amp fuse from the Positive battery terminal in the rear. This will clear the code, If you don't have speakers and an amp like me no biggie, just a pain in the ass. But eventually it will happen again so take it in.

BullyWagon
10-12-2007, 01:09 AM
Thermostat is stuck open, no biggie, just take it in.

GDZHHR
10-12-2007, 02:18 AM
This just happened to me just as described here. Supposed to leaving first thing in the morning on a trip. This BITES!! Don't know whether to go or not now. Bonnie's is already down becuase a no tc light came on in hers. What great timing!

GDZHHR
10-16-2007, 11:51 PM
Well, Monday the gauges started working and Monday night the check engine light was gone!

shaginwgn
10-16-2007, 11:55 PM
Is Bonnie's fixed too?

GDZHHR
10-16-2007, 11:56 PM
her's goes in the shop tomorrow.

Airborne_Beachbum
12-05-2008, 12:51 PM
I'm dealing with this issue now. After reading these posts I know it's nothing major, just annoying. I took it yesterday but, I didn't have the error code handy and of course it was a day when the temp gauges decided to work. I'm gonna have to take it back on Monday to get it resolved now that I have the code written down.