http://216.182.211.32/TechLink/image...quirements.pdf (http://216.182.211.32/TechLink/images/issues/ref_gds/oilrequirements.pdf)

I have a boatload of the Shell I got at Wally World uber cheapo :thumb:


Goose

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Interesting list Lone Ranger...

But it's 2 years old. I wonder if there is a more current list???? Noticed several of the "private" oil companies are not on there.

Might be. I found this one the other day. Plenty of choices, though.

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:nuts: YAY!!!:nuts:

Wal-Mart SuperTech 5W-30 made the list! Woohoo! Now when I go back for my next change in 12,000 miles, I'll know that the CHEAPEST FREAKIN' OIL in the store is just as good as the most expensive! :one:

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I'm just asking cause I don't know........is this spec a minimum requirement that must be attained? If so, it doesn't really show which is better, just which meets the minimum requirements.

:confused: Odd that Motorcraft oil isn't on the list ;)

Found my answer! This is from INTERNATIONAL LUBRICANT STANDARDIZATION AND APPROVAL COMMITTEE document dated january14, 2004

So all this rating means is that the oil meets minimum quality standards and the company operates ethically. This is good info to know, But I hope for more than minimum standards. You can find the entire document HERE (http://www.ilma.org/resources/ilsac_finalstd011404.pdf).


The Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association, Inc. and representatives from DaimlerChrysler Corporation, Ford Motor Company and General Motors Corporation, through an organization called the International Lubricants Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC), jointly developed and approved an ILSAC GF-4 minimum performance standard for gasoline-fueled passenger car engine oils.


This standard specifies the minimum performance requirements (both engine sequence and bench tests) and chemical and physical properties for those engine oils that vehicle manufacturers deem necessary for satisfactory equipment performance and life. In addition to meeting the requirements of the standard, it is the oil marketer’s responsibility to be aware of and comply with all applicable legal and regulatory requirements on substance use restrictions, labeling, and health and safety information when marketing products meeting the GF-4 standard. It is also the marketer’s responsibility to conduct its business in a manner which represents minimum risk to consumers and the environment.

:confused: Odd that Motorcraft oil isn't on the list ;)
Well, why would you want "Ford" oil in a Chevy?

Might get Ford cooties :lol:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/1/7/7/0/Ford_problem.jpg

Well, why would you want "Ford" oil in a Chevy?

Might get Ford cooties :lol:

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/files/1/7/7/0/Ford_problem.jpg


:lol: :lol:

Also noticed that Havoline failed to make the list as well. Isn't Havoline the supplier for Motorcraft? It's a conspiracy...

Glad to see they found valvoline..

:lol: :lol:

Also noticed that Havoline failed to make the list as well. Isn't Havoline the supplier for Motorcraft? It's a conspiracy...

Havoline is made by Texaco......it's on the list.;)

Royal Purple (http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/rpmoa.html) didn't make the list?

Motorcraft is pretty much the same thing as Kendall which is on the list as well as Conoco (parent company that makes MC, Kendall, Trop-Arctic)



Goose


PS You can buy better oil for even less money than the Supertech if you shop around.....I've bought Pennzoil Plat before and after the rebates and coupons I made 5 bucks on the deal! How is that for being cheap? I got paid to use a great synth! :thumb:

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What!!!!! Castrol GTX didn't make the list the second time? Hmmmm Castrol has always been the standard for motor oil, wonder why it's not on the second list?

What!!!!! Castrol GTX didn't make the list the second time? Hmmmm Castrol has always been the standard for motor oil, wonder why it's not on the second list?

Easy to answer....it was either "missed" or it does not meet the standard.:D

Valvoline was not on the first list but is on the 2nd

Weird and whacky stuff I tell you


Goose

I agree with Mr. Gar. no Castrol GTX? I've been using it for years, and in fact just used it three weeks ago for my first oil change in the HHR.

Interesting, only the Castrol synthetics are listed. -Sam

What!!!!! Castrol GTX didn't make the list the second time? Hmmmm Castrol has always been the standard for motor oil, wonder why it's not on the second list?
Weird. The product data sheet on the Castrol site says that GTX exceeds GM6094M (the data sheet is dated from 2005 though).

I just changed oil and filter so here Iam thinking ok if by chance I can't use my favorite oil (Castrol GTX) what brand will I buy?, so I pick up a Quart of 5-30w Castrol and it states it exceeds GM6094m specs Yahoooo!!!!!. I did find my factory oil filter to be crushed slightly but other than that everything went smoothly right down to reseting the DIC for oil % life. So there ya have it folks double check what you read or see because it might not seem as it appears.:thumb:

Admins, is it possible to take the May 8, 2007 revision of the list and make it a sticky post?
I'll edit the post image to reflect the current revision and edit a posting referencing the outdated info. And I'll sticky it per your request.

Great info BTW!

I just noticed it's located in a TEMP location. It may not remian there for long.
Perhaps upload it to another location so you can retain it's file size to remain readable.

Just a heads up that Castrol GTX is now back on GMs GM6094M approved motor oil list as of August 8 2007.

maybe im blind but I also don't see Royal Purple on ther either

At the time of the lists creation, Royal Purple refused to submit samples for certification !!!

http://216.182.211.32/techlink/images/issues/ref_gds/oil_lists_02_2008.pdf

Updated February 2008

I am glad to see Castrol GTX 5W-30, 10W-30 made the list :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

I didn't check the list but I did email Amsoil and several of their oils easily meet and exceed the spec. Amsoil for me....www.amsoil.com

I've got 4300 miles on my new SS. How long can I go untill I have to change oil. Do I go by the oil service life read-out or by the service manual of 3000 miles. With the cost synthetic oil at $5 per quart, oil changes could be expensive. HELP!

I've got 4300 miles on my new SS. How long can I go untill I have to change oil. Do I go by the oil service life read-out or by the service manual of 3000 miles. With the cost synthetic oil at $5 per quart, oil changes could be expensive. HELP!

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/pats50fan/smilies/welcome4.gif to the site!!! Answers will vary. I have spoke with my service advisor and I'm going to do my first change at 3,000 miles and then around every 8,000 miles after that.

I didn't check the list but I did email Amsoil and several of their oils easily meet and exceed the spec. Amsoil for me....www.amsoil.com (http://www.amsoil.com)

This is an old arguement AND A very BIG MISCONCEPTION but,....

Ask Amsoil to supply their test data sheets that display the evidence that their oil meets the GM Spec. They CANNOT POSSIBLY DO THAT since GM's spec test is propriatary and done in house, by them. AND Amsoil DID NOT SUBMIT SAMPLES for certification. Also notice in ALL of Amsoil's liturature they indicate they RECOMMEND their oil for the GM applications. They DO NOT SAY, MEETS OR EXCEEDS those specifications.

But again, ask for the "meets or exceeds" in writing with documentation......from THEIR website....

APPLICATIONS
AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil is recommended for use in gasoline engines, diesel engines (API CF, ACEA B5) and other applications requiring SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 or 10W-30 with the following worldwide specifications:

• API SM/CF, SL, SJ …
• ILSAC GF-4, 3 …
• ACEA A5/B5-04
• GM 4718M, 6094M
• Ford WSS-M2C929-A
• Honda HTO-06
• Daimler Chrysler MS-6395N
• VW 503.00

I don't care what oil you use but my tolerence level is very low regarding misinformation !! SORRY.

I can't get the link to work.

GM finally caught up with new technology and reproduced/rebuilt that site with password protection.

I lost all my old access passwords gradually over the past 2 years. That was the last one......lost it just about 3-4 weeks ago.:mad:

With the way GM is "cleaning house" I suspect a lot of new changes are coming. Hopefully for the best.

I can't get the link to work.

The link seems to be down for the past week or so.

Royal Purple or Mobil 1 are the only things I've used with good results.

The specs I've seen on Royal Purple are horrible. It's barely better than regular petroleum oi.:bow: :bow:
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The link seems to be down for the past week or so.

Does anyone have a new link to the current GM 6049M approved oil list?

thanks for list. im covered

As one might imagine, we've had the opportunity, via thousands of customers over two decades, as well as our own rigorous in-house product development and racing, to come in contact with the effects of almost every brand of oil available.

My recommended list is as follows:
Anything from a MAJOR manufacturer.

Examples include, but are not limited to:
Castrol
Valvoline
Shell
Mobil
Elf
Kendall

I can't get the link to work either...
Is this a link for the Ecotech in general, or the SS 2.0?
Doesn't the SS require synthetic oil?

The list is not all inclusive. There may be many oils that meet or exceed GM's specs that simply were not tested. Royal Purple, Amsoil, RedLine, none were tested by GM, but NOT being tested does not mean they DO NOT meet or exceed GM's standards. Big argument all the time, but ironically Amsoil was the first to develop the very oil that is not include in the GM specs. Nice! Use someone elses R & D, then assign your own spec to extort your vendors.

quote:
2008 HHR SS (my new replacement ) - Built 1/11/09 adopted 1/31/08
time travel must be great in Grand Haven, MI
heheh j/k ^_^

anyway... is there an updated list??

No....I hear GM is working on it however. And several new items WILL be added.

I stand corrected. This new list was just e-mailed to me.

Effective date September 18, 2008
Mods. may wish to "sticky" this as an undate to the prvious list !!

http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsibility/environment/maintenance/gm_approved_engine_oils.pdf

Anybody know what GM vehicles/engines beside the 2.0 LNF that require this oil spec?

:nuts: YAY!!!:nuts:

Wal-Mart SuperTech 5W-30 made the list! Woohoo! Now when I go back for my next change in 12,000 miles, I'll know that the CHEAPEST FREAKIN' OIL in the store is just as good as the most expensive! :one:
12,000 miles! Thats a bit too far if you want to keep your HHR healthy.
I don't care what the oil life message says; Your oil will be black and filthy at 6,000 miles, and dirty oil is a killer. The oil filter cant handle over 6K, that's the problem. and use a made in USA Purolater oil filter, not a Chinese cheapo.

I use only Castrol Syntec 5-30 all synthetic oil.
Just because an oil made the list of "acceptable" oils does not mean it's the best, only adequate, I think more of my HHR.

12,000 miles! Thats a bit too far if you want to keep your HHR healthy.
I don't care what the oil life message says; Your oil will be black and filthy at 6,000 miles, and dirty oil is a killer. The oil filter cant handle over 6K, that's the problem. and use a made in USA Purolater oil filter, not a Chinese cheapo.

I use only Castrol Syntec 5-30 all synthetic oil.
Just because an oil made the list of "acceptable" oils does not mean it's the best, only adequate, I think more of my HHR.

Hate to burst your bubble but Purolator filters is part of Bosch and the filters might not be made in the USA.

http://www.pureoil.com/jobs/locations.cfm

Baldwin is probably the only filter company making their filters in the USA but their prices are higher and few places sell them. Baldwin might even buy from other suppliers.

I don't like the miniature filters GM is using nowadays. It means you need to change filter more often and buy a filter that can hold more debris. With fuel injection, there isn't as much contamination and synthetic doesn't break down as soon but I don't believe in going over 5,000 miles on it.

Baldwin is probably the only filter company making their filters in the USA.

my hengst filters say made in usa.

The AC/Delco I bought was made in the USA as well.

My current supply of AC/Delco filters ALSO say made in USA.

And frankly, some statements that are made should be checked before making them. Broadcasting what you may have read on another forum, or a friend told you, is not that creditable.


To themoodman.....

the person you are responding to, hhr crafty, is no longer a member here. He sold his HHR, with very high mileage, and purchased a Mustang.