How to add GM Remote Start without option AP3
#1
How to add GM Remote Start without option AP3
I have been trying to get my 08 lt that was a previous rental to auto start. I had the correct fob programed but I only got flashing lights. I was told to ground The purple wire at pin 3 of the BCM. That would tell the BCM that the hood was closed as it does not have a switch. And therefore Chevy said it didn't have an auto start. No AP3 code. Which only meant it didn't have a hood switch. If you are in the same situation just Do the ground as above. It started right up and works fine.
Last edited by ChevyMgr; 03-12-2010 at 03:55 PM. Reason: changed title
#2
Nice work agrandad.
I was wondering when someone would do this. I think member Sno White suggested this a few months back. Seemed like a simple and sensible solution that no one had suggested before.
I was wondering when someone would do this. I think member Sno White suggested this a few months back. Seemed like a simple and sensible solution that no one had suggested before.
#3
Just so others can get this straight I would like to summarize what is involved:
First, you need a prior “Rental” or “Fleet” vehicle – these vehicles may not come from the factory with the Remote Start feature. It seems what these vehicles do not come with is the required hood closed/ajar switch and associated wiring harness.
Second, acquire the correct FOB(s) with Remote Start button for the vehicle. Either from a dealer or the web. If you already have a FOB that lock/unlocks the doors using the factory system I believe you are set and will only have to do step four.
Third, have a dealer or well equipped locksmith program the FOB(s) to the vehicle. Most likely this is the most expensive part of this procedure. Perhaps if you purchased the FOB(s) at the dealer they might do the programming at a lesser cost?
Fourth, in a 2008 or prior vehicle ground the “Purple” wire on Pin 3 of the lower front connector on the BCM. This fakes the vehicle into believing the hood is closed! Of course you could get that required hood closed/ajar switch and associated wiring harness mentioned in step one instead of Grounding Pin 3.
Success! You can now use your FOB to Remote Start your vehicle.
I am only guessing that GM feels the need to have the hood closed is a safety issue protecting mechanics while working on your vehicle. This could be an ill-natured joke watching someone work on your vehicle under the hood and then starting your vehicle with the FOB from around the corner. DO NOT DO THIS. You will not be welcomed back and may end up in your local legal system.
At this time, March of 2009, I presume there are no 2009s coming off of rental duty yet. Time will tell if this works on the 2009 and subsequent vehicles.
Post up if you have a different experience.
Also, are there any FOB differences between years?
My 2009 FOB has the part number – 15114374.
From post #4 below it appears the 2007 is the same.
First, you need a prior “Rental” or “Fleet” vehicle – these vehicles may not come from the factory with the Remote Start feature. It seems what these vehicles do not come with is the required hood closed/ajar switch and associated wiring harness.
Second, acquire the correct FOB(s) with Remote Start button for the vehicle. Either from a dealer or the web. If you already have a FOB that lock/unlocks the doors using the factory system I believe you are set and will only have to do step four.
Third, have a dealer or well equipped locksmith program the FOB(s) to the vehicle. Most likely this is the most expensive part of this procedure. Perhaps if you purchased the FOB(s) at the dealer they might do the programming at a lesser cost?
Fourth, in a 2008 or prior vehicle ground the “Purple” wire on Pin 3 of the lower front connector on the BCM. This fakes the vehicle into believing the hood is closed! Of course you could get that required hood closed/ajar switch and associated wiring harness mentioned in step one instead of Grounding Pin 3.
Success! You can now use your FOB to Remote Start your vehicle.
I am only guessing that GM feels the need to have the hood closed is a safety issue protecting mechanics while working on your vehicle. This could be an ill-natured joke watching someone work on your vehicle under the hood and then starting your vehicle with the FOB from around the corner. DO NOT DO THIS. You will not be welcomed back and may end up in your local legal system.
At this time, March of 2009, I presume there are no 2009s coming off of rental duty yet. Time will tell if this works on the 2009 and subsequent vehicles.
Post up if you have a different experience.
Also, are there any FOB differences between years?
My 2009 FOB has the part number – 15114374.
From post #4 below it appears the 2007 is the same.
Last edited by Sno White; 03-15-2010 at 08:30 PM. Reason: Edits in RED
#7
I prefer this TAP:
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawe...6EVs6E666666--
as it is totally insulated and non-distructive. The Red #951 for 18 - 22 AWG wire is the correct size. I find them at my local auto parts store. Alarm install places use them as well.
#8
I do not know if there is a "neutral" detect switch in the 5-Speed or if the BCM is different from the Auto Transmission BCM.
?Do you have an option on your DIC to turn Remote Start ON and OFF?
I would start there, if not present I would think GM had engineered the feature out of the BCM. This IMHO would make the work much too difficult to overcome and I would look to an aftermarket unit.