Metal Shavings in oil filter???
#1
Metal Shavings in oil filter???
I've heard of some folks saying that they noticed metal shavings in their oil filters after the first oil change..well I just changed my oil and noticed a few small slivers of metal in my oil filter...only issue is I have over 28K miles and maybe on my 5th change
How concerned should I be about this and where is this metal coming from?
Goose
How concerned should I be about this and where is this metal coming from?
Goose
#2
I've heard of some folks saying that they noticed metal shavings in their oil filters after the first oil change..well I just changed my oil and noticed a few small slivers of metal in my oil filter...only issue is I have over 28K miles and maybe on my 5th change
How concerned should I be about this and where is this metal coming from?
Goose
How concerned should I be about this and where is this metal coming from?
Goose
#3
It's normal. You can pick up a replacement for the oil pan bolt. That has a magnet on the tip of it. These usually will help keep most of the fillings out of the engine. Your local auto parts store should have them.
#6
Goose......
First, if the shavings are in your oil filter then the filter is doing the job it's designed for. I would be worried if I saw the shavings in the oil as I was draining the pan.
Second, shavings have been in oil filters for over 25 years that I know of. Several friends and I cut open the spin-on filters a number of times and observed the same thing. Never seemed to provide an indication of any type of failure. Many of the vehicles had high to very high mileage on them.
Your just worried because on these cars you can actually look at (and see the contents) of the filter element.
If it really worries you, send an oil sample to Blackstone. If any mechanical part is galling enough to provide shavings, you probably would have metal counts very high in the analysis.
First, if the shavings are in your oil filter then the filter is doing the job it's designed for. I would be worried if I saw the shavings in the oil as I was draining the pan.
Second, shavings have been in oil filters for over 25 years that I know of. Several friends and I cut open the spin-on filters a number of times and observed the same thing. Never seemed to provide an indication of any type of failure. Many of the vehicles had high to very high mileage on them.
Your just worried because on these cars you can actually look at (and see the contents) of the filter element.
If it really worries you, send an oil sample to Blackstone. If any mechanical part is galling enough to provide shavings, you probably would have metal counts very high in the analysis.
#7
Probably right guys...just have not noticed in the other changes..I looked a little closer this time as this change the filter had the wavey look to it...weird...sometimes it does...sometimes it doesn't...also a cartridge reveals more I guess lol
I'll be sending to Blackstone (sample) anyways as I had planned to on a 7300 mile OIC of Pennz Plat
Goose
I'll be sending to Blackstone (sample) anyways as I had planned to on a 7300 mile OIC of Pennz Plat
Goose
#9
Oh, I forgot to add......
GM has a service bulletin (with pictures)on the metal shavings and the filter crush (don't believe it was a TSB....just a service note).
They indicate it's normal if not in excess.
If I can find it....I'll post. But maybe ChevyMgr can find it easier.
GM has a service bulletin (with pictures)on the metal shavings and the filter crush (don't believe it was a TSB....just a service note).
They indicate it's normal if not in excess.
If I can find it....I'll post. But maybe ChevyMgr can find it easier.
#10
The only one I remember is this one addressing the first oil change. But as was stated before, this kind of debris has always been there and should not be worried about.
#PIP3404C: Machining Debri On The Oil Filter Element - Replace Oil And Filter - keywords aluminum change chips contamination engine metal shaving - (Nov 10, 2006)
Subject: Machining Debris on the Oil Filter Element
Models: 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier
2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt, Cobalt SS
2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR
2005-2007 Chevrolet Malibu
2005 Chevrolet Malibu Classic
2005 Pontiac Grand Am
2007 Pontiac G5
2006-2007 Pontiac G6
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2006-2007 Pontiac Solstice
2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP
2005 Pontiac Sunfire
2005-2007 Saturn Ion, Ion Redline
2005 Saturn L Series
2007 Saturn Sky, Sky Redline
2005-2007 Saturn Vue
with any of the following engines:
2.0L Engine (VIN X - RPO LNF)
2.0L Engine (VIN P - RPO LSJ)
2.2L Engine (VIN D or F - RPO L61)
2.4L Engine (VIN B or P - RPO LE5)
2.4L Engine (VIN Z - RPO LAT)
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This PI was superseded to include 2007 models. Please discard PIP3404B.
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
On rare occasions, machining debris may be found on the oil filter element during the vehicle's first oil change. This debris consists of small boring chips and milling burrs from the oil passage that is between the oil pump and oil filter.
Recommendation/Instructions:
If this condition is encountered, replace the engine oil and filter. No additional repairs should be attempted since this debris does not affect the reliability or durability of the engine.
#PIP3404C: Machining Debri On The Oil Filter Element - Replace Oil And Filter - keywords aluminum change chips contamination engine metal shaving - (Nov 10, 2006)
Subject: Machining Debris on the Oil Filter Element
Models: 2005 Chevrolet Cavalier
2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt, Cobalt SS
2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR
2005-2007 Chevrolet Malibu
2005 Chevrolet Malibu Classic
2005 Pontiac Grand Am
2007 Pontiac G5
2006-2007 Pontiac G6
2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
2006-2007 Pontiac Solstice
2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP
2005 Pontiac Sunfire
2005-2007 Saturn Ion, Ion Redline
2005 Saturn L Series
2007 Saturn Sky, Sky Redline
2005-2007 Saturn Vue
with any of the following engines:
2.0L Engine (VIN X - RPO LNF)
2.0L Engine (VIN P - RPO LSJ)
2.2L Engine (VIN D or F - RPO L61)
2.4L Engine (VIN B or P - RPO LE5)
2.4L Engine (VIN Z - RPO LAT)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This PI was superseded to include 2007 models. Please discard PIP3404B.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
On rare occasions, machining debris may be found on the oil filter element during the vehicle's first oil change. This debris consists of small boring chips and milling burrs from the oil passage that is between the oil pump and oil filter.
Recommendation/Instructions:
If this condition is encountered, replace the engine oil and filter. No additional repairs should be attempted since this debris does not affect the reliability or durability of the engine.
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