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Old 04-24-2012, 09:58 AM
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To be fair, considering what I've done with the HHR, consider for a moment what an awesome sleeper the new Taurus SHO would be with a tune that removed the limiter and maximized boost from the twin turbochargers. I already own a regular Taurus that my wife drives. I'd put her in a SHO in a heartbeat if I had that kind of scrill to drop. She's conflicted though. She likes 4 doors but wants a Mustang.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:24 AM
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I've seen a few SHOs into the 11s already. They are easily modified just like our cars. Not to mention the AWD awesomeness.

Can't fix ugly though LOL
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Breadfan
To be fair, considering what I've done with the HHR, consider for a moment what an awesome sleeper the new Taurus SHO would be with a tune that removed the limiter and maximized boost from the twin turbochargers. I already own a regular Taurus that my wife drives. I'd put her in a SHO in a heartbeat if I had that kind of scrill to drop. She's conflicted though. She likes 4 doors but wants a Mustang.
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I've seen a few SHOs into the 11s already. They are easily modified just like our cars. Not to mention the AWD awesomeness.

Can't fix ugly though LOL
Just to level set the group. I do have some knowledge relating to the SHO. I call you uniformed to review information from one of the local upfitter/performance shops. Check out their YouTube video's (some shot @ my favorite testing site) =>

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...ford-customer/

http://youtu.be/yVuN1-qpXkA

This group works closely with Ford Engineering and has refitted numerous SHO's that are just badass.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bigjacksauto
I looked up another few sites and they are all reporting the top speed on the Taurus should to be 115 MPH
Twin Turbo v6 running 13.7 @103 in the quarter stock.
0—60 5.?
I think the lunch box had a gmtu on it.
So from a roll I would put my money on the lunch box.
I would also assume that this car was stock and did not take to long to hit 115?

I also am betting that ford geared the sho to run quick I highly doubt it will run 155 unrestricted.
Just imagine how much quicker our she's would be in the quarter if they had the gearing of the non Ss's
But I think gm made a good choice with the ss's gearing.

Chalk one up for the lunchbox



Here is a site comparing the show to a mustang
http://carsort.com/compare/Ford-Taur...Manual-V6-3.7L
Good info, thanks for sharing. Lotsa times when I have clear vision and a willing victim, I've been known to test the speed limiters. This was one of those times. I'm going to challenge my neighbor to answer why the SHO is speed limited to 115 (assume since it's such a pig - tires?). I mean he "knows" everything Ford.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:29 AM
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I still find it hard to belive they speed limited the SHO to 115?
Wow in the 11's already with a SHO
I would have to assume they have put close to 5k in mods to get the car down the fast but I could be wrong.
That would be one hell of a sleeper until the word gets out.
Maybe gm will hand out free GMTU's to all stock SS owners such as myself you know just to keep the GM performance division name up and all or at least a discount would be nice.
We would not want Ford to get to far ahead now would we.
Of course I know we are comparing apple to oranges here.
Lets see how fast a stock Taurus SHO can make a lap at the famous Nurbugring Race / Test Track it is widely considered the toughest and most demanding purpose-built race track in the world. We can proudly say that the SS has made it around in a very respectful time.

Here is an explanation on the track for those who have not heard of it

"This is arguably the most popular most demanding and also longest track for road-car track-days, magazine tests, prototype testing and race events. Originally, the track featured four track configurations: the 28.265 km long Gesamtstrecke ("Whole Course"), which in turn consisted of the 22.810 km Nordschleife ("Northern Loop"), and the 7.747 km Sudschleife ("Southern Loop"). There also was a 2.281 km warm-up loop called Zielschleife, around the pits area. Between 1982 and 1983 the start-finish area was demolished to create a new GP-Strecke, and this is currently used for all major and international racing events. However, the Nordschleife is still in use; nicknamed The Green Hell by Jackie Stewart, it is widely considered the toughest and most demanding purpose-built race track in the world."
here are some numbers.
Being limited to 115 I would think would hurt the SHO on this track but what do I know I am a drag racer.
223. Chevrolet Corvette C5 8:40.00 143 '98 344 / 1505
224. Bentley Continental GT 8:40.30 143 '03 559 / 2350
225. Aston Martin DB7 Vantage 8:41.00 142 '99 420 / 1780
226. Audi S3 8:41.00 142 '00 210 / 1420
227. Audi S4 8:42.00 142 '97 265 / 1510
228. Audi TT Coupe quattro 8:42.00 142 '98 224 / 1461
229. Lotus Exige MK1 8:42.00 142 '00 179 / 780
230. Honda Integra Type R 8:43.00 142 '98 190 / 1145
231. Chevrolet HHR SS 8:43.52 142 '08 264 / 1491
232. Volvo C30 T5 8:44.70 141 '06 220 / 1453
233. Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 8:45.00 141 '93 250 / 1475
234. VW Scirocco 2.0 TSI 8:46.40 141 '08 200 / 1298
235. Honda Civic Type-R 8:47.00 141 '01 200 / 1246
236. Renault Clio III Sport 8:47.48 141 '06 200 / 1288 Gregory Fargier
237. Opel Corsa OPC 8:47.99 140 '07 192 / 1203 Manuel Reuter
238. Porsche 911 Carrera 8:48.50 140 '88 250 / 1350
239. VW Golf Mk V R32 8:49.00 140 '05 247 / 1510
240. Renault Clio V6 Mk I 8:49.00 140 '01 226 / 1381
241. Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8 MkII 8:49.00 140 '11 477 / 2374 Sabine Schmitz
242. Mercedes E 55 AMG 8:50.00 140 '02 476 / 1953
243. BMW M3 Sport Evolutione 8:50.00 140 0 240 / 1277
244. Porsche Cayenne GTS 8:50.02 140 '08 405 / 2388 Walter Rohrl
245. Alfa Romeo 156 GTA 8:51.00 140 '03 250 / 1445
246. Mercedes C 43 AMG 8:51.00 140 '97 306 / 1470
247. Mercedes CLK 430 8:52.00 139 '97 279 / 1455
248. VW Golf Mk V GTI 8:53.00 139 '04 200 / 1303
249. VW Golf Mk IV GTI 8:54.00 139 '02 180 / 1213
250. Porsche Boxster 8:54.00 139 '96 204 / 1250
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Interesting list. But what are the vehicles that placed 1 -222?
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kills a kill good job! I know the biggest beef with auto mag's on the new SHO is the weight. That seems to be killing a lot of car's performance, but that can be changed with a few goodies :)
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
Interesting list. But what are the vehicles that placed 1 -222?
not sure of all of them but the cobalt ss is in the 100's. it beat up on some pretty expensive cars...its just to small for me or id have one
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:03 AM
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I want a sho. Id use the SS as the DD and use Sho as weekend/trax car. The sho has alot of ways to go, to unleash the power. The ss is kinda stuck at 390hp (mines not their but thats roughly the max u can get with the torq steer being too much). AWD is the way to go, my buddy has an evo 6 and... 450+ hp, and that thing is monsterous. I might be in the market for the sho in a year or so, gotta wait for the parts to roll out!
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
Interesting list. But what are the vehicles that placed 1 -222?
Here is the list

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html
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