2.2L Performance Tech 16 valve 143 hp EcoTec with 150 lb-ft of torque

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Old Jun 8, 2023 | 09:18 AM
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I used a long screw driver in number 1 and the check the timing mark on the cover. It wad off about 1/4 of an inch. I marked the chain at the intake next to the head and the lined up the pulley to the cover. The chain moved about 1 chain link. That would be close enough to start anyway.
That shouldn't be far enough off to cause this kind of competition drop. With no visible contact marks on the pistons and equally low competition across the engine what else would cause this?
I'll hook air to number 1 to see if the valves aren't sealing as you suggested. I'll let you know.
Old Jun 8, 2023 | 09:24 AM
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New lifters?
Old Jun 8, 2023 | 10:22 AM
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No, the lifters were out of the old motor. It ran ok except for the blown head gasket between 3 and 4. The head was off since January. I only swapped them because of the rust on the cams and lifters in this motor.
Old Jun 8, 2023 | 10:35 AM
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Study this

https://www.ddmworks.com/assets/imag...uild%20Kit.pdf

Same as 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 with VVT
Old Jun 8, 2023 | 10:46 AM
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Let me clarify. The rollers on the rocker arms were rusted, so swapped assemblies from old motor. What I saw in the attached link, I followed the procedure described. Is it possible for the lifters to go flat from sitting a few months? Both engines had good compression when checked. The original motor just ran ruff. How do check the lifters?
Old Jun 8, 2023 | 11:40 AM
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The lifters would all have to be holding the valves open for you to lose compression on all cylinders.
I would say that lifters are not the problem.

For everything to be so rusted inside the engine, then a lot of moisture must have gotten inside. I would be worried about the cylinder walls having that rust also.
Old Jun 8, 2023 | 06:50 PM
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And the valve seats and valves
Old Jun 9, 2023 | 05:23 AM
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I put air to the cylinders and the only place I heard air was the crank case. I think firemangeorge was right. I just don't understand how this engine could have good compression two months ago and 20 to 30 pounds now. It been stored inside on an engine stand. I had some strange results from more compression testing. Cylinders 1 and 4 had compression on some tests and not on others. I dis a wet test but the compression didn't improve. I can't see the cylinder walls with my bore scope the camera is too long and can't bend enough to see anything but the center of the pistons. I am soaking is down with PB Blaster to free up the rings. As far as the valves go I couldn't hear anything at the intake or the exhaust with my stethoscope. I will keep working on the rings for now.
Old Jun 9, 2023 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldsman
I put air to the cylinders and the only place I heard air was the crank case. I think firemangeorge was right. I just don't understand how this engine could have good compression two months ago and 20 to 30 pounds now. It been stored inside on an engine stand. I had some strange results from more compression testing. Cylinders 1 and 4 had compression on some tests and not on others. I dis a wet test but the compression didn't improve. I can't see the cylinder walls with my bore scope the camera is too long and can't bend enough to see anything but the center of the pistons. I am soaking is down with PB Blaster to free up the rings. As far as the valves go I couldn't hear anything at the intake or the exhaust with my stethoscope. I will keep working on the rings for now.
Get some GM top engine cleaner and pour a couple tbs into each cylinder and allow to set overnight. That stuff works great to break up carbon and free sticky rings.
Old Jun 9, 2023 | 08:44 AM
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I don't understand how sticking rings would give exactly the same compression in all 4. Was the throttle open when you tested?



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