2.2L Performance Tech 16 valve 143 hp EcoTec with 150 lb-ft of torque

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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 12:36 PM
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this is how I set the timing 10/2/12 there is noway to turn the crank without pulling either the head or cams is that true. I mean say if you broke a chain and had to replace and it was out of time how would you do it ?
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 12:39 PM
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ok this is the timing I had when I put it together I had to turn the crank to 12 cams at 10 & 2 how do you do this without removing the head if this is a interference
engine. I had to turn the crank to get to compression stroke. are you saying you can not turn the crank once the head is installed I sure hope I didn't ruin a new head because I did turn the crank with the head in place to get to TDC then installed my chain none of the videos I saw mentioned anyrthing of this sort but also they were all in a nice clean shop with thengine on a table torn down looking so easy. do you think by me turning the crank I ruined the new head
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 12:51 PM
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I would like to know how ALL the rockers arms where broke to being with and what damage to the the top of the pistons looked liked.
This is going in circles now.
Pictures please.
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 01:10 PM
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the P0041 code is a cam position sensor on my tester I replaced both front and back
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 01:18 PM
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cat when I pulled the head the pistons looked great no damage 1 vavle was bent the timing chain tensioner froze up l drove home the car ran fine until I went out later to start it I h think when the tensioner broke something locked up I have no pictures sorry. but I'm more confused now than before lol
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 01:28 PM
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P0014 maybe? That means the exhaust VVT valve is not working or has run out of adjustment. There is NO P0041!!!!!!!!!

The word "sensor" may be in the name of the test. That doesn't mean the sensor is bad. Pretty rare for a passive coil of wire encased in epoxy to break.

Note the key is at 12:00 the mark on the chain is at 5:00. pics posted earlier.

When the tensioner stopped tensioniong the chain slipped.
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by charliehines
cat when I pulled the head the pistons looked great no damage 1 vavle was bent the timing chain tensioner froze up l drove home the car ran fine until I went out later to start it I h think when the tensioner broke something locked up I have no pictures sorry. but I'm more confused now than before lol
"cat when I pulled the head the pistons looked great no damage 1 vavle was bent"
??? How did it do this ?
"timing chain tensioner froze up l drove home the car ran fine"
??? How do you know this ?
"I'm more confused now than before"
I'm sue you are.
I just have to ask. Do you know how to work on cars or is someone doing the work for you ?
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
P0014 maybe? That means the exhaust VVT valve is not working or has run out of adjustment. There is NO P0041!!!!!!!!!

The word "sensor" may be in the name of the test. That doesn't mean the sensor is bad. Pretty rare for a passive coil of wire encased in epoxy to break.

Note the key is at 12:00 the mark on the chain is at 5:00. pics posted earlier.

When the tensioner stopped tensioniong the chain slipped.
yes Don the key is 12:00 the mark is @ 5:00 mine looked just like the picture. could I be 360 out ?
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
"cat when I pulled the head the pistons looked great no damage 1 vavle was bent"
??? How did it do this ?
"timing chain tensioner froze up l drove home the car ran fine"
??? How do you know this ?
"I'm more confused now than before"
I'm sue you are.
I just have to ask. Do you know how to work on cars or is someone doing the work for you ?
ye Don I have worked on cars my whole life I've never taken them to shop I've always bee pretty good this one just has me puzzled.I own 4 never had an issue until this hhr came along and puzzled me.Im old school.lol PS I'm 61 and I grew up on a farm I was working on things when i was walking.lol
Old Oct 4, 2019 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by charliehines
yes Don the key is 12:00 the mark is @ 5:00 mine looked just like the picture. could I be 360 out ?
If you mean 360 on the crank, no such thing, not possible.



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