2.2L Performance Tech 16 valve 143 hp EcoTec with 150 lb-ft of torque

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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ_RS_SS_350
Well, you made 9 more posts after the suggestion without even acknowledging it.

Rocker arms don't just get tired and break. The camshaft lobes come up and push on the valves. If the valves cannot make the full stroke, things bend and break. I say this for future readers of this thread, it sounds like you already know this.
I never saw anyone mention compression test Sorry. also I came here seeking some advice on the issue I'm having I'm new at this forum thing. I didn't come here to upset anyone or to be treated like I'm some kind of Moron I respect your input and everyone who has responded if you don't want to help me that's fine
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 10:37 AM
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Now that is just too touchy! Grow some skin.
We have recently had a couple of reports about exploding rockers.
I don;t know how a valve gets bent and all of the rockers get broken and there be no damage to the pistons. What else can the valves hit?
I STILL don't know what "tensioner locked up" means".
Never got clarification on the OBD code that does not exist.
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Since I 'm not exactly sure of the meaning of "timing chain tensioner froze up l drove home the car ran fine" means I am guessing that you did not get a new one to install the new chain. They usually come in the chain kit and are rather difficult to reset for use after you take them out.

I am not sure what Oldblue is thinking. If the key is at 12:00 AND all 3 of the marked links line up with the "arrows" it has to be timed right.

We have had a few instances lately of broken rockers. I don't know how that happens.

So now that is given; are we at does crank doesn't start?
Correct I have Fire I have fuel and I have compression I just have no Start
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Now that is just too touchy! Grow some skin.
We have recently had a couple of reports about exploding rockers.
I don;t know how a valve gets bent and all of the rockers get broken and there be no damage to the pistons. What else can the valves hit?
I STILL don't know what "tensioner locked up" means".
Never got clarification on the OBD code that does not exist.
Sorry I was wrong on code it was PO341 when I took the chain tensioner it locked up It would not Push in or pull out. I don't understand Touchy grow skin ?
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 11:20 AM
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That code indicates the camshaft sensor is telling the ECM that a camshaft is out of time.
it’s doing it’s job , reporting a problem.
I suggest you have a close look at the timing marks. I know you are sure everything went together perfectly, but sometimes there’s a glitch.
I’ve taken the front cover and valve cover off a 2.4 towed to my place and determined the timing chain was put on backwards.
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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I didn't come here to upset anyone or to be treated like I'm some kind of Moron
Sounds touchy to me.

If the tensioner would not go in or out that means it was never set. Presumably you got the hydraulic tensioner? There have been some that had to whack them like the old spring activated tensioners. If you got the spring activated kind it is wrong for your car, they should only be on non-VVT engines.

The clean one is the hydraulic.


There is a full discussion in this thread https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/how-...-rattle-46159/
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Sounds touchy to me.

If the tensioner would not go in or out that means it was never set. Presumably you got the hydraulic tensioner? There have been some that had to whack them like the old spring activated tensioners. If you got the spring activated kind it is wrong for your car, they should only be on non-VVT engines.

The clean one is the hydraulic.


There is a full discussion in this thread https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/how-...-rattle-46159/
the one that came with the kit was like the used 1 you show when I installed it I had to Tap it to activate it when I pulled it out to recheck the timing I took the snap ring off and reset it by twisting in inward then I installed after double checking timing and tapped it to engage it again. will this effect the timing its the exact same 1 that came out?
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
That code indicates the camshaft sensor is telling the ECM that a camshaft is out of time.
it’s doing it’s job , reporting a problem.
I suggest you have a close look at the timing marks. I know you are sure everything went together perfectly, but sometimes there’s a glitch.
I’ve taken the front cover and valve cover off a 2.4 towed to my place and determined the timing chain was put on backwards.
The new timing chain I installed only had colored links on 1 side I aligned those with the marks on the cams at 10& 2 it looked dead on at 10 & 2 the bottom mark was dead on at the 5:00 position I took the timing chain cover and valve cover off 3 times to make sure I was correct the intake cam was a perfect set I had to turn the exhaust just a little not very much to align the sprocket marks on the chain directed in the video. I watched tons of videos before installing
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by charliehines
Correct I have Fire I have fuel and I have compression I just have no Start
I'm sorry, I don't understand this statement.
You have fuel and compression, along with air you = Fire.
So it should run if in time correctly.
But you say "no start".
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
I'm sorry, I don't understand this statement.
You have fuel and compression, along with air you = Fire.
So it should run if in time correctly.
But you say "no start".
I know amazing is it not.yes I have Fire,Compression and Fuel but no Start amazes me no I will pick up a new compression tester today the 1 have is 20 + years old and only read 90 psi on all 4 cyclinders but it held at 90psi I wonder if it could be a Module ? keeping it from starting confusing to me Fire compression fuel should start.

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