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Serpentsteeth 11-28-2017 01:39 PM

09 2.2L-2.4L Engine swap.
 
I’ve lurked on this site for a while but this would be my first post.

I have a 2009 LT Panel with the LE8 engine. I would like to swap the LE8 for the LE5 or LE9 if possible. I just feel like the 2.4 would be a better platform for a engine build.

The question is... Is it possible?

-Both engines are equipped with VVT, therefore Presumably have the same wiring harnesses now. I’m just looking for confirmation of this.

- What else would be involved in doing something like this? I’ve heard of it being done several years ago on another form back before the 2.2 engines got VVT. But that took massive amounts of wiring work.

-I’ve looked everywhere for info on this but can only seem to find posts on trying to swap the 2.4L engine into a vehicle prior to the 2.2L getting VVT in 09.

Does anyone have any info or advice on this? Any help would be much appreciated.

-Ryan

donbrew 11-28-2017 04:29 PM

Do you know what you are doing with automotive computers, do you have access to tis2web?

The harness is the same part number. I am pretty sure the programming is different, that may take some expertise.

Serpentsteeth 11-28-2017 05:02 PM

Unfortunately I personally don’t have access to tis2web. However I have a few Mechanic buddies who said they’d help me out with this project. I’m a novice when it comes to car electronic/computers so I require help with all that.

I just looked up the harness part number my self shorty after I posted the initial time it is indeed the same. My guess is I would have to flash the PCM and install the programming from the LE9. I would also need to tune for everything done to the LE9 prior to install.
-Cams
-higher compression pisons 11.2:1
-header back exhaust

donbrew 11-28-2017 05:33 PM

What can you do to VVT cams? That's all done in firmware.

Serpentsteeth 11-28-2017 05:46 PM

When you install cams let’s say the comp cams ZZP is offering for the LE5/9. Would it not be advisable to tune for that after the PCM has been converted to run the LE9? I rather get most of the pcm stuff done in one shot is all I’m saying.

RJ_RS_SS_350 11-28-2017 07:49 PM

You might consider selling this one and buying an SS. Just a thought.

ZTony8 12-03-2017 03:16 PM

If you get the parts make sure you get the E.C.M. for the 2.4 engine.

RF2 12-04-2017 10:34 AM

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I talked to ZZP about going from a 2.2 to a 2.4 and there is some differences. You should call them. Getting the ECM off the 2.4 is a good idea. It can be done but.
On these cars, once you start changing things you can open up the proverbial

Serpentsteeth 12-04-2017 10:47 AM

I actually did Email ZZP about the swap. I got this in response.
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Oldblue 12-04-2017 10:56 AM

There’s nothing you can do that can’t be done, just to much time on your hands.
Members have swapped in V8’s ,a blown 3800 V6, so yeah a 2.2 to a 2.4 , why not.
I’ve often wondered about a 2.4 block with 2.2 non VVT head in my 2007.
Hmm any improvement, more HP, could be, is it worth the time and trouble, nope!

Serpentsteeth 12-04-2017 11:07 AM

From what I’ve been reading it pretty much is a plug and play swap. The ECM is one of the only things that needs to be swapped or flashed. The other thing like the water pump, starter, alternator are all the interchangeable, or am I missing something?

Oldblue 12-04-2017 11:13 AM

Nope not for 2009 2.2 with VVT to 2009 2.4 with VVT.
I believe that’s the confusion with ZZP . They might be thinking pre 2009 2.2 non VVT to 2009 or any 2.4 with VVT.

Like was stated earlier get the ECM, with the 2.4


I have a 2.4 2 inch down pipe and cat back 2 1/4 inch pipes, the K&N FIPK kit is 2.4 oriented.
So, I can imagine your swap being straight forward , but for Oldblue, not so much.

Serpentsteeth 12-04-2017 12:04 PM

Thanks Everyone,
That’s all I really need to hear, now to actually start the project... haha
I’ll post progress photos as I go along, it’s going to be a slow going however. I know going na with a built is the hard way of doing it, but I’m not a fan of turbo or supercharging...

Oldblue 12-04-2017 02:13 PM

Start a new thread, and take lotsa pictures! We like pictures!
Pay special attention to the throttle body connections.

phrog fixer 12-24-2017 10:41 AM

Since you have an 09 LE8 an E85 engine, I would think a complete swap with an 09-11 LE9 an E85 using the engine, wiring harness, ECM with all the accessories. Would be the closes think to plug and play. Stay away from the LE5 06-08 it is an non E85 motor.


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