Is there a mod that would allow the HHR to run on E-85 / Ethanol fuel blends??

From my understanding it should be nothing more than a tune mod that I see a vendor is offering.

 

Your in kansas? what part? cause i haven't seen any e-85 pumps

 

While not all "Kwik Shops" have them many of the newer stores do and maybe I am mistaken but I am almost sure that the store at 21st and Webb has it.

But all of the "Kwik Shops" do sell a 10%->5% Ethanol fuel blend but the owners manual states not use the fuel??

--David


[Side note for others "Kwik Shop" is a 24 hour quick stop shop which is a division of 'Dillions' which happens to be a divison of Krogger Foods which is known nation wide.]

 

At the minimum it would be a custom PCM software. But then you wouldn't be able to run regular gasoline, it would be E85 only. The new Malibu has software smart enough to figure out what's in the tank without a dedicated sensor. Maybe that strategy would work on the HHR also.

The question then is if the fuel injectors on t he HHR are large enough to flow the extra fuel that E85 requires.

Which rasises the final point: E85 reduces your mileage. It has to be a lot cheaper to cost less than gas as you will use more of it.

 

If I could I would rather run the E85 knowing that 15% of the money is staying at home.. and with changes in the why that Ethanol fuel blends are being made the cost should soon be 15% less than your current gas blends.

 

Essentially both statements are incorrect.

Because MTBE has been prohibited since April 1st of this year as an additive, all the states or areas that WAS using it, substituted ethanol for the blend. Because our infrastructure is such, we cannot produce enough ethanol to now support that need. So we are importing the majority from South America, with a large "tax"(that some politicians are talking about reducing/eliminating). So basically, you are still supporting "governments" of other countries.

Also, you will be very disappointed in your vehicles performance and mileage. Mileage will be reduced by about 25-30% (I also have confirmed this, with a 2005 Chev. Avalanche).

The information I just supplied is available from several different sources, but the best, and probably most authoritive, is the web site for the the ethanol producers association.....which I do not have currently or I would link it.

And frankly, I writing this because people need to be made aware that ethanol is not the "savior" that it is portrayed as.

Good luck, with your decision.

Oh, and I forgot to say, ethanol was discussed in a previous topic and thread. And, those statements confirm mine.

 

I hate to say it, but Snoopy is right.

The only advantage is that not as much oil per gallon is used. The flipside to that is that you use more. So its a complete washout.

Also, not only does the US not have enough ethanol, it doesn't have enough plants set up to meet the demad for E-85.

Here's a link for the U.S. Department of Energy's pages on ethonal and E-85.

Hope this helps.

 

Here is further documentation from GM's own website.

Pay particular attention to the satement that GM "carefully disguises" in regrad to cruising mileage.

http://www.gm.com/company/onlygm/energy_flexfuel.html#

 

Just their friendly way of saying you'll get 25% less mpg!

 

Wow I am now confused, as most of the time Why would any company support a new so-called efficient fuel if it reduced your mpg I believe the statments I have read but can not figure out why the E85 is even getting promoted by the company other than a way to way to say "Heh we are helping the environment" and at what costs??? I would think a better approach would be to invest into R&D and develop a fuel that is both environment friendly and effiecient.

Julian