Info please
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From: louisville k.y
Info please
I wanting to buy a complete supercharger set up off a cobalt ss/sc what else would i have to do to install this ,or make it work? Would the catback work on the hhr that came off the cobalt ss/sc?Any info would be great ,thank you all.
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From: Eastpointe,MI.
GM did this to some show HHRs that I saw at the Woodward Cruise a few years ago.Adding to what Brwbier wrote,your best bet would be to try and find a totalled Cobalt SS and transfer over as much as you can.You'll need much,much more than just the basics.Without a complete car to rob for parts,it would be a prohibitively expensive task.
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From: United States of Texas
Someone has done that
I believe NoBullJoe has done something similar. Do a search on his threads. I believe he said it was a total pain and not for the faint of heart. Seems he had to do some cutting and fabricating to make it fit and a buch of tuning.
When it was done I think he gets almost as good as stock mileage with WAY better performance.
He posted some pictures of it and it really looks nice and proffesional but you know it was not easy.
Seems someone asked him if he would do it to their car and he said no way it was too much of a pain. Sure he will probably pipe in here with tips (and warnings!)
When it was done I think he gets almost as good as stock mileage with WAY better performance.
He posted some pictures of it and it really looks nice and proffesional but you know it was not easy.
Seems someone asked him if he would do it to their car and he said no way it was too much of a pain. Sure he will probably pipe in here with tips (and warnings!)
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From: United States of Texas
Look in the classifieds
Look in the classifieds here. Someone has complete Supercharger and exhaust for you. As for the exhaust I think it is almost the same, with in a few inches and a few of the hangers are located in a different spot. I would have a muffler shop put it on just in case.
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From: louisville k.y
yea thats my stuff,not going to do it.
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From some guys at www.ontariocobaltclub.com:
Parts List:
Eaton M62 Supercharger
Supercharger Gasket
Stock LSJ Intake Manifold
Intake Manifold Bottom Mount
Intake Manifold Gasket (Part #12597855)
2.5 Bar Map/Intake Temp Sensor (on upper left of LSJ manifold)
2.5 Bar Pigtail (Part #88988320)
Bosch/LSJ Intercooler Pump
Intercooler Pump Wiring Pigtail or Butt Connecters
Intercooler Pump Mounting Bracket (rebelautoworx.com)
Cobra Heat Exchanger (Used from a 03 Mustang Cobra)
Cobra Heat Exchanger Brackets (custom or bwoodyperformance.com)
42.5# Injectors (recommended)
Injector Harness
Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge (THIS IS NOT AN OPTIONAL ITEM!!!)
Boost/Vacuum Gauge
Stage 2 Belt (Part# 12597993; requires one rib be cut off)
Custom Idler Pulley with Mounting Bracket (rebelautoworx.com)
Extended Upper Radiator Hose
Coolant Reservoir Tank (Cobalt or Ion Recommend)
NGK Copper Spark Plugs (Part# LFR6A-11)
SS/SC intake
10ft. x ¾” I.D. Hose
10ft x ¼” I.D. Hose
4ft. x ½” I.D. Hose
Small and Large Hose clamps.
3 x 1/8th NPT ¼” Barb Fittings
Self Tapping Sheet Metal Screws (Mounting H/E brackets)
6M 25mm Bolts
6M 90mm Studs with Locking Nuts
8M 50mm Bolts
Water Wetter Coolant
1/8th NPT Drill Tap
21/64th Drill bit (for the 1/8th tap)
20 gauge wiring
Zip Ties
Electrical Tape
Plastic Wiring Sleeves
Optional:
LSJ Throttle Body (requires some wiring)
Aero Force Interceptor Gauge
Gauge Pillar
Oil Pressure Gauge
Notes:
• A 2 bar map sensor will work instead of a 2.5 bar map sensor, however the 2.5 bar map sensor from the LSJ will also read intake manifold temps.
• Stock LSJ Injectors will not be sufficient for this setup. the IDC will be too high
• The stock LSJ belt may also be used with this setup, however it may require a larger idler pulley and there is no guarantee on the fitment of the larger idler on the rebel bracket.
• I’ve heard that the stock LE5 Injector harness will work with the 42.5lb Injectors however I cannot confirm this.
Tool List:
Wrench Set
Spark Plug Socket
Drill with Assorted Bit Sizes.
Soldering Iron (optional)
Screwdrivers
Jack
2x Jack Stands
Creeper (optional)
Grinding Tool
Vice Grips
Box Knife
Teflon Tape
Allen Keys
Clearing up some Common Misconceptions:
1. You DO NOT need the LSJ Alternator for this setup, however you will need to cut one rib off the stage two belt
2. To use the LSJ Throttle body you need to swap some wiring on the T/B pigtail, i will have updates later on
3. This is not a BOLT ON, this setup will require a tune, and is unsafe to even attempt to drive if it is not tuned.
Preparation:
1. I highly recommend removing the front bumper, headlights, headlight mounting brackets, front wheels and fender lining, REMOVAL OF THESE ITEMS ARE UP TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT, HOWEVER THEY’RE ALL PRETTY SIMPLE.
2. If you plan on using a LSJ intake you will need to remove the windshield wiper fluid reservoir from the driver’s side fender.
3. You will need to cut open the stock engine wiring harness and relocated the MAF and Throttle Body Wires to the other side of the engine compartment. Allow Plenty of slack in the wiring, they can always be tucked away later.
4. I also would recommend setting up two tables in your workspace. The first with all the items that need to go on the car, and the second for the items you take off the car.
5. Stock the fridge with drinks and snacks, this will take a while!
6. If you are not already using fully synthetic motor oil, you should probably switch over before installing your supercharger. The LE5 requires 5 quarts of 5W-30
aval/mase
feel free to add any info.
a member from ss.net has also done this.
Eaton M62 Supercharger
Supercharger Gasket
Stock LSJ Intake Manifold
Intake Manifold Bottom Mount
Intake Manifold Gasket (Part #12597855)
2.5 Bar Map/Intake Temp Sensor (on upper left of LSJ manifold)
2.5 Bar Pigtail (Part #88988320)
Bosch/LSJ Intercooler Pump
Intercooler Pump Wiring Pigtail or Butt Connecters
Intercooler Pump Mounting Bracket (rebelautoworx.com)
Cobra Heat Exchanger (Used from a 03 Mustang Cobra)
Cobra Heat Exchanger Brackets (custom or bwoodyperformance.com)
42.5# Injectors (recommended)
Injector Harness
Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge (THIS IS NOT AN OPTIONAL ITEM!!!)
Boost/Vacuum Gauge
Stage 2 Belt (Part# 12597993; requires one rib be cut off)
Custom Idler Pulley with Mounting Bracket (rebelautoworx.com)
Extended Upper Radiator Hose
Coolant Reservoir Tank (Cobalt or Ion Recommend)
NGK Copper Spark Plugs (Part# LFR6A-11)
SS/SC intake
10ft. x ¾” I.D. Hose
10ft x ¼” I.D. Hose
4ft. x ½” I.D. Hose
Small and Large Hose clamps.
3 x 1/8th NPT ¼” Barb Fittings
Self Tapping Sheet Metal Screws (Mounting H/E brackets)
6M 25mm Bolts
6M 90mm Studs with Locking Nuts
8M 50mm Bolts
Water Wetter Coolant
1/8th NPT Drill Tap
21/64th Drill bit (for the 1/8th tap)
20 gauge wiring
Zip Ties
Electrical Tape
Plastic Wiring Sleeves
Optional:
LSJ Throttle Body (requires some wiring)
Aero Force Interceptor Gauge
Gauge Pillar
Oil Pressure Gauge
Notes:
• A 2 bar map sensor will work instead of a 2.5 bar map sensor, however the 2.5 bar map sensor from the LSJ will also read intake manifold temps.
• Stock LSJ Injectors will not be sufficient for this setup. the IDC will be too high
• The stock LSJ belt may also be used with this setup, however it may require a larger idler pulley and there is no guarantee on the fitment of the larger idler on the rebel bracket.
• I’ve heard that the stock LE5 Injector harness will work with the 42.5lb Injectors however I cannot confirm this.
Tool List:
Wrench Set
Spark Plug Socket
Drill with Assorted Bit Sizes.
Soldering Iron (optional)
Screwdrivers
Jack
2x Jack Stands
Creeper (optional)
Grinding Tool
Vice Grips
Box Knife
Teflon Tape
Allen Keys
Clearing up some Common Misconceptions:
1. You DO NOT need the LSJ Alternator for this setup, however you will need to cut one rib off the stage two belt
2. To use the LSJ Throttle body you need to swap some wiring on the T/B pigtail, i will have updates later on
3. This is not a BOLT ON, this setup will require a tune, and is unsafe to even attempt to drive if it is not tuned.
Preparation:
1. I highly recommend removing the front bumper, headlights, headlight mounting brackets, front wheels and fender lining, REMOVAL OF THESE ITEMS ARE UP TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT, HOWEVER THEY’RE ALL PRETTY SIMPLE.
2. If you plan on using a LSJ intake you will need to remove the windshield wiper fluid reservoir from the driver’s side fender.
3. You will need to cut open the stock engine wiring harness and relocated the MAF and Throttle Body Wires to the other side of the engine compartment. Allow Plenty of slack in the wiring, they can always be tucked away later.
4. I also would recommend setting up two tables in your workspace. The first with all the items that need to go on the car, and the second for the items you take off the car.
5. Stock the fridge with drinks and snacks, this will take a while!
6. If you are not already using fully synthetic motor oil, you should probably switch over before installing your supercharger. The LE5 requires 5 quarts of 5W-30
aval/mase
feel free to add any info.
a member from ss.net has also done this.