I'll go get my manual, its sitting on the seat in the car tonight and I just don't want to go out and get it right now. I'm replacing the bearing on the right side tomorrow on my day off here. (Did the left last week.) I will bring it in and quote from the two places it gives this conflicting information.

In the bearing replacement instructions it gives the 81ft lbs spec.

On next page or so it give something like the knuckle replacement and it gives the other spec, 155ft lbs.

I will see if I can take a picture of the pages as proof. This is a little messed up. I'm sure the 155 lbs is more correct though. I'm more comfortable with that.

 

Has anyone heard about the MOOG hub assembly? Is it pretty decent or what? I'm about to replace my right front hub assembly and I'm trying to decide which one is better....MOOG or Timken...

 

OK, here is my manual:



Here is a link to the pages that give two different specs:

http://home.comcast.net/~Kookie/HHRMan326.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~Kookie/HHRMan327.jpg

(They are links because they are a bit larger in size.) It was cold and very windy. It was hard to get a good picture with my crappy cell phone.

If you notice, page 3-26 says, 1.) axle shaft nut 81 ft lbs, while on page 3-27 it says, 1.) wheel drive shaft nut 155 ft lbs.

Go figure?

 

In the second photo the washer(2) looks just like a large nut. Plus it's not even in the first photo. Hmmmmm, the plot thickens........

 

I checked the 2008 A/SUV Service Manual (GMT/08-A-1) and all the Wheel Drive Shaft Nut fastener tightening specifications are 210 Nm (155 lb-ft).

References were on pages 7-3 and 7-8. Page 7-8 also states "Hand tighten the NEW wheel drive shaft nut on the wheel drive shaft" and "DO NOT use air tools to tighten the wheel drive shaft nut. Use a torque wrench only."

The section for wheel bearing replacment (16-7) refers back to the Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement procedure for separating and installing the drive shaft.

Hope this helps!

 

Federal Mogul has replaced the National branded hubs with the Moog name to consolidate the chassis parts lines. They are also selling strut assemblies through the Moog name now, I am trying to find out who is supplying them these struts but I have suspected that they are Chinese as a couple of Chinese shock/strut companies have cropped up in the past couple of years-stay away from them they are really junk. Anyway, most of Federal Mogul's hub assemblies are made in Korea by Ilgin, who is OE to Chrysler, Hyundai, Kia and a few other automakers. This is probably the best of the value line hub assembly product. Timken, for the HHR, sells the same unit that comes on the car at the factory, they sell the OEM unit made by KBI in Ohio, it is a pretty good hub.

 

"National" is a generic style of the "cheap Chinese" that everybody slams. Therefore Moog is the "cheap Chinese" with "Moog" printed on the BOX. Box printing is very cheap. If it makes you comfortable to buy a brand that you think is a venerable US made brand, go ahead. Personally I'll get the Rear bearing for $68 instead of the identical bearing for $260.

You will have to search real hard and be real trusting to get anything but "cheap Chinese" bearings or suspension parts.

 

I hate to argue about car parts, but donbrew unless you are a veteran of the bearing market, what I posted about Federal mogul and Moog is absolutely correct and what you posted is wrong. Sorry, but it's the truth. Federal Mogul used the National brand for years and is now consolidating the brands they sell because they are once again in financial trouble. They have always used Ilgin as thier main supplier and filling some of thier line in with some OEM and a few Chinese units. Timken and SKF are the only true premium bearing manufacturers in the aftermarket, the issue with anyone selling bearings today is that these items are a commodity. If you are not the OEM supplier or can buy from the OEM supplier at a good price you are forced to fill in your product line with offshore parts. SKF recently got some OEM business from GM that traditionally went to KBI(http://www.kbibearing.com/website/kbi.html), that is the former Delphi hub assembly supplier to GM and maker of the HHR OEM hubs. SKF now is manufacturing around 20 of the top GM hub assemblies, some are made here in Kentucky and some are made in thier factories in China and Korea-they are the OEM for the Corvette ZR1 and CTS-V, both made offshore. What this all means is that you can get the OEM parts for vehicles at great prices if you find out who is buying and selling these into the aftermarket. As I said before, the Timken is the KBI unit and I have seen these parts on Amazon and Ebay for around $90.

 

Agree with this guy...

 

Gee, I thought that I was agreeing with you. So, if I get "National" brand for a cheap price, that states "made in China" it's not cheap Chinese? Boy, I am confused. This is like talking to my wife, even when I agree with her, I am wrong. Oh, well, somethings just aren't worth getting into. I am truly sorry, that I seemed to have gored your ox, I was trying to agree with you.