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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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This might help those that are fixated with doing the 3000 mile ritual
Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by VTXGUY

Man....IF that is correct info, he sure blows the crap out of a lot of things said on this Forum. And the publish date is more current than anything else.

I did e-mail him with a couple of questions. I'll print the response when I get it.

Oh, again assuming he's correct in his statements...he supported a couple of things I had heard/read and stated here. Makes me happy
Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Problem with his article is that he is saying that Mobil One is a Group IV...at one time it was but now they are the same as the others in the Group III category if I'm not mistaken...Lone Ranger or Black Rose or other BITOGers? Can you validate this? I haven't been on BITOG in some time.

Pennzoil Platinum was the new hot kid on the block being a Group V but they have since changed their formula as well. German Castrol Syntec 0W-30 was also/is a darling of the true synthetic crowd



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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Goose....that is one of the questions I asked him. This statement about Mobil 1 being a Group III has been going around for a long time. But NOBODY, can provide any real documentation to support it. When I was researching on the Mobile 1 site, a while back, they still stated they were an ester based, Group IV synthetic. I can't get Mobil to respond to my e-mails and have been unable to contact anyone, reliable, by phone.

Dammit...I want proof.

Now, his information regarding the composition may be old, and not up to date. I noticed he mentioned Castrol as a Group III. But, I'm waiting for his response, if any.
Old Nov 21, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Goose
Problem with his article is that he is saying that Mobil One is a Group IV...at one time it was but now they are the same as the others in the Group III category if I'm not mistaken...Lone Ranger or Black Rose or other BITOGers? Can you validate this? I haven't been on BITOG in some time.
There was a big stink on BITOG awhile ago about one of the M1 variants showing Group III characteristics when put through a gas chromomoter. My head was starting to hurt reading all the info, so I bought Pennzoil Platinum instead, since Pennzoil wasn't hiding the fact about it being a Group III oil.

Originally Posted by Snoopy
Goose....that is one of the questions I asked him. This statement about Mobil 1 being a Group III has been going around for a long time. But NOBODY, can provide any real documentation to support it. When I was researching on the Mobile 1 site, a while back, they still stated they were an ester based, Group IV synthetic. I can't get Mobil to respond to my e-mails and have been unable to contact anyone, reliable, by phone.
Mobil has been inundated with that question so many times from BITOGers, that they have probably just decided to stop responding.

There is still no absolute proof about M1 being Group III, but the Japanese M1 site indicated that M1 does have some Group III content in it. Of course I can't find the info on their site right now.
Old Nov 22, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Another good site about oil. Should answer alot of questions, this site is discussed on alot of motorcycle forums I visit.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php
Old Nov 22, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Yes, Bob Is The Oil Guy (BITOG) is a great site, with lots of good info on it.

Also some crap too, but you quickly learn which posters are full of it and which ones post good info.
Old Nov 23, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Mobil 1 extended

I have been using Mobil 1 Extended in my vehicles for sometime now. Works great for me.
They say it is good for 15k. I wait until my drivers display reads 50%. The oil always looks good at change time. Heat is my major concern since I live in Houston. Very congested freeway driving with excessive summer heat.
Old Nov 23, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by VTXGUY
Excellent article! He hit the nail right on the head. Everyone should read. THANK YOU for posting the link!!!
Old Nov 23, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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One last thought:

I am an old guy (55) and I have been driving cars for a LONG time. Before it was popular to change your oil every 3,000 miles, I was doing it with regular ol' outta-the-ground-oil. I drove cars in excess of 150,000 miles with no problems whatsoever. I did flush the engines at around 65,000 miles and 135,000 miles to get all the "gunk" out of them. The key is to check your oil level regularly and change the oil and oil filter on a regular basis. Also, keep a clean air filter. My father taught me, "If you take care of your toys, they will last a long time."

To the guy in Houston that drives in hot weather with stop and go traffic...YES, check your oil regularly and change it regularly. I lived in LA for years and the stop and go traffic coupled with the heat can reek havoc on an engine.

As a side note, if any of you have Hondas, check the oil every 1,000 miles. Honda engines "eat" oil. According to Honda, it is normal.

Peace,

G2



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