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From: Kingsville On
Not going to happen we are building auto`s for the 2010 and 2011 HHR then that tranny is discontinued and are plant is being closed June 2010.The Cobalt and G5 are done for 2010 we can build out the 2011 HHR in 3 months.We have a 50,000 tranny bank right now and are on rotating layoffs till further notice.
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From: jerSSey, exit 5
The Cruze comes in spring 2010 as a 2011 model the Cobalt / G5`s will build out around June 2010.The 2011 HHR will have a 4 speed auto,the 4 speed plant will close June 2010.If the HHR makes it past the 2011 model it will have a 6 speed auto for the 2012.All the 4 speed autos for service and the 2011 HHR will be built by June 2010 and put into a warehouse in Detroit and shipped to Mexico as needed.
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From: Akron Ohio
Keep in mind GM is cutting name plates. They had 68 models in 2004 and hope to have 36 model by 2014.
With the new Orlando coming and no new news of a HHR I will be suprised if the HHR lives on in 2012 accept for left over 2011 models.
Autoblog.com has the American version of thr Orlando testing in Camo in todays blogs.
With the new Orlando coming and no new news of a HHR I will be suprised if the HHR lives on in 2012 accept for left over 2011 models.
Autoblog.com has the American version of thr Orlando testing in Camo in todays blogs.
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From: Akron Ohio
The issue is Chevys will be sold world wide and not just here in the future. The HHR is not well understood in 4n markets. Most just think it is as off as we see Nissan Cube or Smart Cars.
Also GM is killing near half the name plates in the nest 4 years so something has to go as they can't keep them all.
I too don't think the Orlando will imporve sales in this country over the HHR but we have to count more than just sales in this country.
I hate to see the HHR go they need the Orlando to be a hit so if that is what they are going to do I hope it works.
The HHR was a great risk that paid off for Lutz and the people taking his place are not willing to take that risk again as GM can not afford another Aztec. The going to a Orland is a risk of the 100,000 sales but I think they are looking for greater numbers than even the HHR has been selling.
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Because, as a model, HHR isn't nearly as lucrative or popular as a viable vehicle needs to be, and any vehicles with which it shares any commonality are already long gone.
Sales are down to the 75k mark, 2/3 or which are to fleet operators which are not only not profitable enough to be worthwhile, they're not even popular enough among commercial operators to offset the narrow margin or collateral impact to the brand.
With Transit Connect and Doblo, HHR becomes a default third place choice in terms of utility, and among the only segment where it enjoys any broad support, the volume just doesn't warrant it - even in a robust economy. Finally, with Orlando, a vehicle that GM can produce very inexpensively (by comparison) with the potential to win buyers from a much broader up-and-coming segment, and using powertrain that are more efficient and better-able to help achieve CAFE compliance, HHR is already long dead on paper.
Even Orlando may not make it stateside as GM favors a smaller and stronger core of vehicles consistent with the smaller and stronger number of brands and stores that can compete on a basis that doesn't require unsustainable sales volumes. To justify a unique product slot for HHR-like volumes, GM would need to see Audi-like gross profits per unit.
I'd recommend anyone who wants an HHR shouldn't hesitate - with production occurring in Mexico, no arbitrary or artificial continuing manufacture is necessary. If large fleet operators start scooping-up available units while they last, GM is more-than-likely to advance the termination date accordingly rather than make more units.
HHR was a reasonably good "me too" effort by a maker with little going for it at the time trying to capture a little residual static electricity from the PT Cruiser lightning in a bottle Chrysler stumbled upon, which was already a dying product at the time. Today, it's a dated design and platform that's simply past its prime (and time).
I enjoyed mine while I owned it, but it's a different world with different priorities today - and HHR just doesn't have a place in it, my nostalgic affinity for it notwithstanding.
Sales are down to the 75k mark, 2/3 or which are to fleet operators which are not only not profitable enough to be worthwhile, they're not even popular enough among commercial operators to offset the narrow margin or collateral impact to the brand.
With Transit Connect and Doblo, HHR becomes a default third place choice in terms of utility, and among the only segment where it enjoys any broad support, the volume just doesn't warrant it - even in a robust economy. Finally, with Orlando, a vehicle that GM can produce very inexpensively (by comparison) with the potential to win buyers from a much broader up-and-coming segment, and using powertrain that are more efficient and better-able to help achieve CAFE compliance, HHR is already long dead on paper.
Even Orlando may not make it stateside as GM favors a smaller and stronger core of vehicles consistent with the smaller and stronger number of brands and stores that can compete on a basis that doesn't require unsustainable sales volumes. To justify a unique product slot for HHR-like volumes, GM would need to see Audi-like gross profits per unit.
I'd recommend anyone who wants an HHR shouldn't hesitate - with production occurring in Mexico, no arbitrary or artificial continuing manufacture is necessary. If large fleet operators start scooping-up available units while they last, GM is more-than-likely to advance the termination date accordingly rather than make more units.
HHR was a reasonably good "me too" effort by a maker with little going for it at the time trying to capture a little residual static electricity from the PT Cruiser lightning in a bottle Chrysler stumbled upon, which was already a dying product at the time. Today, it's a dated design and platform that's simply past its prime (and time).
I enjoyed mine while I owned it, but it's a different world with different priorities today - and HHR just doesn't have a place in it, my nostalgic affinity for it notwithstanding.
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Because, as a model, HHR isn't nearly as lucrative or popular as a viable vehicle needs to be, and any vehicles with which it shares any commonality are already long gone.
Sales are down to the 75k mark, 2/3 or which are to fleet operators which are not only not profitable enough to be worthwhile, they're not even popular enough among commercial operators to offset the narrow margin or collateral impact to the brand.
With Transit Connect and Doblo, HHR becomes a default third place choice in terms of utility, and among the only segment where it enjoys any broad support, the volume just doesn't warrant it - even in a robust economy. Finally, with Orlando, a vehicle that GM can produce very inexpensively (by comparison) with the potential to win buyers from a much broader up-and-coming segment, and using powertrain that are more efficient and better-able to help achieve CAFE compliance, HHR is already long dead on paper.
Even Orlando may not make it stateside as GM favors a smaller and stronger core of vehicles consistent with the smaller and stronger number of brands and stores that can compete on a basis that doesn't require unsustainable sales volumes. To justify a unique product slot for HHR-like volumes, GM would need to see Audi-like gross profits per unit.
I'd recommend anyone who wants an HHR shouldn't hesitate - with production occurring in Mexico, no arbitrary or artificial continuing manufacture is necessary. If large fleet operators start scooping-up available units while they last, GM is more-than-likely to advance the termination date accordingly rather than make more units.
HHR was a reasonably good "me too" effort by a maker with little going for it at the time trying to capture a little residual static electricity from the PT Cruiser lightning in a bottle Chrysler stumbled upon, which was already a dying product at the time. Today, it's a dated design and platform that's simply past its prime (and time).
I enjoyed mine while I owned it, but it's a different world with different priorities today - and HHR just doesn't have a place in it, my nostalgic affinity for it notwithstanding.
Sales are down to the 75k mark, 2/3 or which are to fleet operators which are not only not profitable enough to be worthwhile, they're not even popular enough among commercial operators to offset the narrow margin or collateral impact to the brand.
With Transit Connect and Doblo, HHR becomes a default third place choice in terms of utility, and among the only segment where it enjoys any broad support, the volume just doesn't warrant it - even in a robust economy. Finally, with Orlando, a vehicle that GM can produce very inexpensively (by comparison) with the potential to win buyers from a much broader up-and-coming segment, and using powertrain that are more efficient and better-able to help achieve CAFE compliance, HHR is already long dead on paper.
Even Orlando may not make it stateside as GM favors a smaller and stronger core of vehicles consistent with the smaller and stronger number of brands and stores that can compete on a basis that doesn't require unsustainable sales volumes. To justify a unique product slot for HHR-like volumes, GM would need to see Audi-like gross profits per unit.
I'd recommend anyone who wants an HHR shouldn't hesitate - with production occurring in Mexico, no arbitrary or artificial continuing manufacture is necessary. If large fleet operators start scooping-up available units while they last, GM is more-than-likely to advance the termination date accordingly rather than make more units.
HHR was a reasonably good "me too" effort by a maker with little going for it at the time trying to capture a little residual static electricity from the PT Cruiser lightning in a bottle Chrysler stumbled upon, which was already a dying product at the time. Today, it's a dated design and platform that's simply past its prime (and time).
I enjoyed mine while I owned it, but it's a different world with different priorities today - and HHR just doesn't have a place in it, my nostalgic affinity for it notwithstanding.
With the Orlando not coming here now and word going that the Granite may now be coming Chevy may have new plans.
GM no longer give long leads on new product like they did in the past to keep up stock prices like they did. We should hear sometime this year what they plan to do.
Either way they will cover the Orlando with something but what.
Canada will get the Orlando but no the states.