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solman98 Oct 10, 2007 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by MOTRV8D (Post 202868)
Ever since Pontiac took on the double grille look quite a few years ago, a LOT of them have looked like BMW's. What's the old saying about imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? I think the Torrent looks pretty cool.

Not sure when BWM started their split grill, but I do know Pontiac started theirs with the 1959 Bonneville.

misterjensen Oct 10, 2007 08:09 AM

I just thought of another reason: No slam on the HHR intended, but I like the fact that I don't think that the Torrent GXP is not a common car. I'm not going to pull up to a stop light and see my same car on each side of the intersection.

solman98 Oct 10, 2007 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by misterjensen (Post 203087)
I just thought of another reason: No slam on the HHR intended, but I like the fact that I don't think that the Torrent GXP is not a common car. I'm not going to pull up to a stop light and see my same car on each side of the intersection.

True, but you will see plenty of it's "twins"......:lol:

misterjensen Oct 10, 2007 08:26 AM

The Equinox? Agreed. BUT, they look different enough.

Dan's HHR Oct 10, 2007 03:13 PM

even if you win on the first 10 questions the numbers 11 will definitly save you :lol: :lol:

Lone Ranger Oct 10, 2007 03:18 PM

I had no idea GM was building engines in China. Bad bad news. Very disappointing.

Black Rose Oct 10, 2007 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Lone Ranger (Post 203215)
I had no idea GM was building engines in China. Bad bad news. Very disappointing.

I read somewhere that it was supposedly done because, at the time, they didn't have the extra capacity to make them at Tonawonda.

I can't see how the reduced labour costs offset the shipping costs to send them back to Canada for installation into the base Equinox and Torrents.

Old Ray Oct 10, 2007 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Black Rose (Post 203216)
I can't see how the reduced labour costs offset the shipping costs to send them back to Canada for installation into the base Equinox and Torrents.

Two dollars an hour and "A slow boat from China." :D

Lone Ranger Oct 10, 2007 04:49 PM

More like 50 cents and hour, probably. ALTHOUGH, I would be more concerned with parts made by Chinese suppliers than with the actual assembly if the engine is assembled of parts from suppliers other than China.

As long as China is only doing the assembly, it might not be so bad. But given how we have all seen the way Chinese companies try to fudge on quality by substituting cheaper "ingredients" or otherwise violating the correct specifications, I would be leery of Chinese made parts.

I guess what I'm saying is an engine built with non-Chinese parts assembled in China might be more likely to be reliable than an engine built with Chinese sourced parts assembled in North America or Europe... mainly due to the big question mark regarding the durability of any Chinese made parts.

MOTRV8D Oct 11, 2007 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by solman98 (Post 203053)
Not sure when BMW started their split grill...

how about, "Quite a long time ago..." This is a 1933 model.

http://www.bmwua.net/gallery/bmw3031933.jpg


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