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Old May 20, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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Hey Guys,

With all the crap going on with the gas situation, don't always believe that 93 octane is what your getting. In P'cola Florida they had a Tom Thumb passing 87 as 93.... My wife filled up, drove 100 miles, light came on for a bit then off. The next day I got on it a little, and wham O! reduced power, chec engine, and of course me pissed off. the car was only a month old.....

Long story short.... Bad gas, mimicis what your experiencing, they had to reset comp, and change a turbo sensor...... basically you can'tburn what isn't there.
Old May 21, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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UPDATE

Well Chevrolet called me today to inform me that they would "NOT" give me a new vehicle. They said that they wanted the opportunity to fix the vehicle LOL. I told her that Chevrolet dosent stand behind there vehicles. I had this vehicle less than 24 hrs and keeps breaking. I informed her that I would retain council and win this case. So Im putting everything in to motion as of today. Chevrolet is bull**** hands down. I will never buy another product from them ever again.

The battle begins.
Old May 21, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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I believe that the "Lemon Law" (at least in California) requires that the MFG (Warranter) pays all legal costs in a successfull case, so that should be the first topic of conversation with your attorney so you don't end up with a bill in case all the proper steps are not followed, and you are not successfull (but you probably know all that). Bummer, 'cause this is a great car.
Old May 21, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Ya know..... It's not just Chevy. You have to understand how the real world really works. Think about it for a minute......

You get a lemon or what you think is a lemon (hey, I think it's a lemon). You have BOUGHT the car and try to get it fixed. Now out of all the vehicles GM makes very few as with most manufacturers are lemons. Many people will try to get them bought back because they can't make payments ect so they come up with a problem that "can't" be fixed so they go for lemon law. In a lot of cases there is no problem with these cars.

So they need protection from those who want out. Unfortunately that protection makes it more difficult for those with real problems to get them solved. With all of the rules and regulations they can't just "give" you another car in it's place. If only it were that easy.

I'm not trying to descredit the issue you are having. It's real. They can't fix it.

My sentiment is to give them 1 last shot at fixing it be it the original dealer or another. Call GM and tell them you want an area rep involved to get it fixed or you will get a lawyer. Area reps usually know more and can get senior techs at chevy involved to get it fixed.

Now I know you as are everyone else wondering do I know what I'm talking about and if I do how do I know it? I have a friend at GM who has told me countless stories of how they are forced to buy back perfectly good vehicles because of phantom problems and that's why it's so tough to tell the real from the fake.

I had a 2003 Saab 9-3 for a company car. Loved it every day. then slowly it had a problem. and another. Computer flashes, trips to the dealer to SHOW probelms. They spoke with countless techs. Nothing. Clueless. 22 problems they could not fix. Fuel gauge would show empty on certain days, power locks would lock and unlock while driving, it would tell me I no onger had a transmission and I needed service because I couldn't drive anymore (drove fine ). Get my point? I went through the lemon law process and it's painfull. Mine was one of the quicker at a few months. To bad, I loved that car. I still miss it.

part 2. We bought a Ford F150 in it's place..... (yeah big difference). 5K miles and it started to shake violently while driving. Had it towed to the dealer. Nothing. Picked it up. Started again. Had it towed. Nothing. Picked it up. Shook but not as bad. Called Ford and they said to take it in again. They called ford and had other techs involved. They aligned it (no fix) they shimmed it (no fix) they found an epidemic of a bad suspension part for that year.....couldn't fix it.

Told Ford I would Lemon law it. 6 damn months of lemon law and arbitration and they settled in arbitration.

Twice now I have been through it. it sucks. it really sucks. My friends all call me the lemon law king! I had 2 vehicles bought back in 1 year.

Do I fault the manufacturer for the process? No, because they need protection as much as we do. If it were so easy to just "get another car" from them how many people do you think would do it?
Old May 21, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Interesting thing happened to a neighbor. He bought a super duty ford f450? with the big turbo diesel motor, konked out with big motor problems on his first road trip two states away, went to a Chevy dealer, they helped him with paperwork to "Lemon Law" refund purchase price and he bought a new Chevy truck to tow his horse rig home, all in one day. As I said before, another neighbor's BMW took many months of attempted repairs, but they did refund 100% with no attorney involved. Just more random examples for you.
Old May 21, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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I think it's just as well that you started the process fairly early on. You can always back off if they magically fix it tomorrow. Around 1991 I had a Plymouth Colt (rebranded Mitsubishi Mirage) that had a problem that the dealer couldn't fix after several attempts, wasting my time and leaving the engine running strangely throughout the break-in period. Had I started the Lemon Law process earlier I could have had a vehicle with an engine that was broken in while running normally, instead of frequently over-revving for no reason. Over time though, the engine lasted for as long as I had the vehicle (I let the ex-wife take it with her about 4 years later, not sure what happened to it after that). So, other than the initial frustration with time wasted on trips to the dealer, the vehicle still worked out decently. At least having started the process early you have your options open.
Old May 21, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Sanddragger, Sorry to hear that, I hope they do something for ya, I have always had it good with chevy's, just lucky I guess... Good Luck my friend and keep us posted on your result's.......
Old May 21, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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well i have to say its not the cars fault.It doesn't keep breaking,it just doesn't get fixed right the first time.Sounds to me like you have a dealership with a department full of parts changers and no real technicians.
Sounds to me like a PCM problem or a circuit problem.A DTC number would help and i could almost fix it over the internet.I am a 18yr GM technician and i am ASE and GM master certified and not to be all ****y and s**t but i can fix any gm car.
I have fixed some wild and crazy crap that other independent shops and other dealers can't fix.
Let me know some info and i can relate some info back to you to tell the dealership what to look for...LOL.
Old May 21, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sanddragger28
UPDATE

Well Chevrolet called me today to inform me that they would "NOT" give me a new vehicle. They said that they wanted the opportunity to fix the vehicle LOL. I told her that Chevrolet dosent stand behind there vehicles. I had this vehicle less than 24 hrs and keeps breaking. I informed her that I would retain council and win this case. So Im putting everything in to motion as of today. Chevrolet is bull**** hands down. I will never buy another product from them ever again.

The battle begins.
There isn't really going to be much of a fight. It appears that Texas law gives them four attempts to cure the same problem unless the vehicle is out of service for more than 30 days or has a serious safety problem.

You're much better off giving them another crack at fixing the problem before you go into arbitration. They gave you a loaner before, let them do it again--this time for as LONG as necessary. It's going to look a lot worse for you going into arbitration screaming that Chevrolet doesn't stand behind their vehicles when they appear to have bent over backwards to repair the vehicle in a timely fashion.

BTW--what is it with all the cursing on the forum lately? I've noticed that it's mostly the new members doing it, but where are the mods already? I know it's frustrating to have a lemon, as I've experienced that before too, but let's keep it clean here.
Old May 22, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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Sorry if I offended anyone buy saying a few cuss words here and there. I figured that we are all adults here and could handle the Native Texas word of BS LOL. Beides there is more cursing and sexual content on local TV.



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