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Old May 2, 2017 | 01:10 PM
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I had not thought of VVT. Good point!

Even stuff like STP is suspect with the VVT.

GM says don't use any additives, but the dealership sells the expensive stuff. Before they got caught they were selling power steering flushes.

GM even has TSBs against additives and flushes that are routinely offered by Service Departments. That leads me to believe that they are useless.
Old May 2, 2017 | 06:13 PM
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You know I didn't think of vvt either which I have in my 2.4. Apparently it causes a chemical reaction in rubber only and gives the Rubber elasticity without making it soft or harming it's integrity. It doesn't do what the others do apparently and is meant as a one time use. It's got a pretty good reputation I just am curious exactly how it works. Also, it just mixes with the oil and doesn't react with or bond to it. When it flows past rubber with the oil it reacts with the rubber it contacts. Some people even spray the stuff onto bushings and other rubber suspension stuff. Interesting! I know the other thick additive gum up and overswell gaskets and make a mess of the oil pan but this stuff according to reviews just works without any of those side effects somehow.
Old May 2, 2017 | 06:21 PM
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and since the stuff doesn't thicken the oil more change viscosity properties the risk of harm to the vvt system would be a non issue. I think the additive that change how the oil acts inside the engine would, and that's probably what was in the tsb.
Old May 2, 2017 | 06:29 PM
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Polyethelene glycol is Miralax.

Glycol ethers are a group of solvents based on alkyl ethers of ethylene glycol or propylene glycol commonly used in paints and cleaners. These solvents typically have a higher boiling point, together with the favorable solvent properties of lower-molecular weight ethers and alcohols.
Old May 2, 2017 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Polyethelene glycol is Miralax.

Glycol ethers are a group of solvents based on alkyl ethers of ethylene glycol or propylene glycol commonly used in paints and cleaners. These solvents typically have a higher boiling point, together with the favorable solvent properties of lower-molecular weight ethers and alcohols.
I don't understand lol 😂
Old May 6, 2017 | 07:39 AM
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Snake Oil! An elixir for the feeble of mind, and short on wrenches! A tonic to address leaks on a very short term to allow time to sell the old heap!!
I've found sawdust will quiet down a noisy gearbox, but not for long!!
Banana peels and all work good too.
Old Jan 14, 2025 | 01:10 PM
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Haha

Originally Posted by Oldblue
Snake Oil! An elixir for the feeble of mind, and short on wrenches! A tonic to address leaks on a very short term to allow time to sell the old heap!!
I've found sawdust will quiet down a noisy gearbox, but not for long!!
!
Do a little research before babbling lol.....it works. Been around a very.....very......long time. It puts into rubber what's lost with age...nothing more...nothing less. If it's rubber and thousand to fix....try some then come back.
Old Jan 14, 2025 | 02:38 PM
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Sir, I have done my research and with over 60 years of working on cars I have seen these additives and had to reseal engines because someone put the product into the engine to sell it! I’ve seen egg whites and pepper to temporally seal cooling systems. Oh yes they work, but not in the long term. I lost a $3,500 dollar transmission because of a drive thru oil change place talked my wife into using Lucas transmission additive, the inards, blew the casing apart on the highway to our cottage.
Old Jan 14, 2025 | 08:09 PM
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One of the problems with those sealers is that they swell the rubber and if you stop using them the rubber that was good before shrinks. If you use it once you have to keep using it forever.
Old Jan 15, 2025 | 06:46 AM
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Not many rubber seals, most are neoprene



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