Power steering fluid flush???????
A friend got ripped off at a dealership recently, he was charged for a "Power Steering fluid flush" for his HHR. Just want folks to know the following:
According to page 248 of the 2007 HHR manual, it clearly states: "The electric power steering system does not require regular maintenance." Here is the complete steering paragraph from the manual: (The bolding is my formatting.) Steering Electric Power Steering If the engine stalls while you are driving, the power steering assist system will continue to operate until you are able to stop your vehicle. If you lose power steering assist because the electric power steering system is not functioning, you can steer, but it will take more effort. If you turn the steering wheel in either direction several times until it stops, or hold the steering wheel in the stopped position for an extended amount of time, you may notice a reduced amount of power steering assist. The normal amount of power steering assist should return shortly after a few normal steering movements. The electric power steering system does not require regular maintenance. If you suspect steering system problems and/or the POWER STEERING message comes on, contact your dealer for service repairs. See DIC Warnings and Messages on page 197. ALSO: There is absolutely NOTHING in the maunual about Power Steering Fluid. No where in the manual do the words "power steering fluid" exist. The fluids mentioned in the manual (Page 403): Usage Fluid/Lubricant Engine Oil Engine oil which meets GM Standard GM6094M and displays the American Petroleum Institute Certified for Gasoline Engines starburst symbol. GM Goodwrench® oil meets all the requirements for your vehicle. To determine the proper viscosity for your vehicle’s engine, see Engine Oil on page 299. Engine Coolant 50/50 mixture of clean, drinkable water and use only DEX-COOL® Coolant. See Engine Coolant on page 306. Usage Fluid/Lubricant Hydraulic Brake System Delco® Supreme 11 Brake Fluid or equivalent DOT-3 brake fluid. Hydraulic Clutch System Delco® Supreme 11 Brake Fluid or equivalent DOT-3 brake fluid. Windshield Washer Optikleen® Washer Solvent. Parking Brake Cable Guides Chassis Lubricant (GM Part No. 12377985, in Canada 88901242) or lubricant meeting requirements of NLGI #2, Category LB or GC-LB. Manual Transaxle Manual Transmission Fluid (GM Part No. U.S. 88861800, in Canada 88861801). Automatic Transaxle DEXRON®-VI Automatic Transmission Fluid. Also, under Maintenace I and II in the owners manual, there is no mention whatsoever of performing a "power steering flush." |
Unless I'm totally mistaken, the steering uses an electric power assist, speed sensitive. More assist provided at lower speeds, diminishing assist as speed increases. "Speed-Sensitive Power Assist Steering, Electric" is how I believe it was listed on my window sticker. Guess maybe he missed that on his window sticker?
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Originally Posted by tim_tenn
(Post 253109)
Unless I'm totally mistaken, the steering uses an electric power assist, speed sensitive. More assist provided at lower speeds, diminishing assist as speed increases. "Speed-Sensitive Power Assist Steering, Electric" is how I believe it was listed on my window sticker. Guess maybe he missed that on his window sticker?
The Dealer had no right to take advantage of him like that. Typical Chevy "rip-you-off" dealership. MIND YOU, there are some honest Chevy dealerships out there, but they are few and far between. |
Also for not reading the very informative 2006,2007,2008 HHR manual! That is free with the purchase of a HHR
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Originally Posted by oneton
(Post 253120)
Also for not reading the very informative 2006,2007,2008 HHR manual! That is free with the purchase of a HHR
I also have the 2007 HHR manual in PDF format on my computer. Makes it easy to search for items. :thumb: |
This will explain the power steering. electric with rack and pinion backup.
http://************/5bq679 |
Originally Posted by TomsHHR
(Post 253181)
This will explain the power steering. electric with rack and pinion backup.
http://************/5bq679 I'd be curious to see what else was performed on the "30k service". Problem is that people don't do any of their own maintenance or even bother reading the owner's manual to see what their car really needs. Most of my Honda and Toyota-owning friends just take the car to the dealership and happily pay $200 a visit for nothing more than an oil change and wiper blades. |
I'd confront the dealer and demand a refund for work that obviously could NOT have been done. If they balk, I would contact GM customer service, and/or a lawyer. The only way you can stop this bull is to take issue with it. Too many people just taking it is what allows it to happen in the first place.
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Originally Posted by LT1GMC
(Post 253577)
I'd confront the dealer and demand a refund for work that obviously could NOT have been done. If they balk, I would contact GM customer service, and/or a lawyer. The only way you can stop this bull is to take issue with it. Too many people just taking it is what allows it to happen in the first place.
Yeah, he's gonna be ripped off sitting on his couch whining about it...jeez. |
It's easier to vent here !!! And not as challenging or maybe as embarrasing.
Nothing against MWG. It's just the American human nature. |
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