2006 HHR starting problem
My check engine light came on at 135,000. Scan showed code P0171, lean condition. Replaced gas cap,front O2 sensor, reset computer, after 60-80 miles light comes back on. Since light first came on engine has been hard to start. Always cranks on second or third try. Mileage also dropped to 19-20mpg. Is mass air flow next?
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Originally Posted by dlwilson54
(Post 487806)
Is mass air flow next?
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Injectors may be partially clogged would be my thinking..... especially with that high a mileage.
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Will it run ok once started and on the highway with dirty/clogged injectors?
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Just had this problem with my fathers 07 hhr. it was a bad fuel pressure regulator (part of the fuel pump) not holding fuel rail presure with the engine off. If the fuel pressure bleeds off to 0 with the engine off the next time you try to start the car it will have a realy long crank time. you can check this with a fuel pressure gauge. sometimes these fail and cause problems when running other times it just give you starting problems. On my fathers car it also set a lean code be cause the running fuel pressure was low. The car still ran ok down the road but he did have a big inprovment it drivabilty after the full pump was replaced. hope this helps good luck.
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When the switch is turned on and the fuel pump runs and cuts off, would that pressure the injector rails?
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Just checked the fuel rail pressure, 35 to 40 psi, but when the engine is turned off, pressure drops to zero immediately.
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Originally Posted by dlwilson54
(Post 488120)
Just checked the fuel rail pressure, 35 to 40 psi, but when the engine is turned off, pressure drops to zero immediately.
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How about, turn key on & let pump, pump up.. then start vehicle.
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With the gauge on the rail, when you turn the key on the first time, no pressure. Second time pressure goes up to 38psi until the pump cuts off and the pressure drops to zero, third time pressure comes up and engine starts. If you try to start while the pressure is up it cranks fine.
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you will still need to replace the fuel pump to fix the lean code.
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Just had this exact same problem on my 07 LT w/105,xxx miles. Replaced the fuel pump myself with one out of a salvage with 38,xxx (I know, probably not the best move, but only cost me $40). Not a hard process if you're a little mechanically inclined and have a jack and some stands and basic tools (15 mm socket, flathead screwdriver, hammer). Only took me about 1 1/2 hrs.
Not the ideal solution, but will work. |
At 135K, your fuel pump is likely on borrowed time. A leaking fuel injector could also cause the pressure drop and decreased mileage but it should show up as a rich condition. Isn't there also a relief valve on the injector rail to return to the tank?
If you're planning on running the car to 200K, you might want to change pump and injectors. |
Originally Posted by Don06
(Post 509260)
At 135K, your fuel pump is likely on borrowed time. A leaking fuel injector could also cause the pressure drop and decreased mileage but it should show up as a rich condition. Isn't there also a relief valve on the injector rail to return to the tank?
If you're planning on running the car to 200K, you might want to change pump and injectors. |
Originally Posted by Lucky
(Post 509282)
The fuel psi regulator (relief valve) is built into the fuel pump assembly. The hhr uses a returnless fuel system. And yes if it had a leaky injector it would probabiliy have a rich code and cyl. misfire.
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Originally Posted by Don06
(Post 509565)
It was easy to change on the fuel rail. A little harder in the tank. Wish they would have access panels so you don't need to drop the tank.
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