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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 12:31 PM
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Alignment needed after LCA bushings replacement?

I just replaced LCA with new bushings installed. The last alignment was done about a year ago when I replaced LCAs. Do I need a realignment after this?

Justtires, after doing free alignment check, tells me that I do. Often times I have doubts about those free alignment checks. No matter what, the always tell you that you need an alignment.

Is tire wear the best way to judge whether you need an alignment?
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 12:46 PM
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If you had an alignment with the old worn LCA’s and this worn rear bushings , then you’re gonna need another alignment to put it back to basics, now really the only adjustment would be toe as the camber and caster are set pretty darn close to dead on with the new LCA’s
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 12:53 PM
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The alignment was actually done after installing new moog LCA.
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 01:16 PM
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Then you should be fine. Just check to see if it pulls left or right.
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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Educate me on this. From what I've read the only thing you can adjust is toe. To do a camber adjustment you have to have this:
https://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k9757
Setting caster is another ball game.
The only way I know with a strut is to have a slotted upper mounting area for the strut to go back and forward.
Remember, camber is the tilt out or in of the tire at the top and caster is the rake of the spindle forward or back.
As far as the toe setting, both too much and too little will cause tire wear. If you run your hand over the tread you will feel a feathered edge if not set correct. Too much in will make the car harder to steer and too much out will make the car wander or dart from side to side.
Camber too can cause the tire to wear. Inside or outside edge of the tire.
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
Educate me on this. From what I've read the only thing you can adjust is toe. To do a camber adjustment you have to have this:
https://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k9757
Yes. There are several different type camber adjustment bolts. Depending on how much you need to adjust it. There is no adjustment with the factory bolts so you have to get those "offset" ones.
When I put on my lowering springs, I bought a set of Moog camber bolts similar to those. When we put it on the alignment rack the camber was still within specs so the camber bolts were not needed.
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 04:03 PM
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Yes. There are several different type camber adjustment bolts. Depending on how much you need to adjust it.
When I put on my lowering springs, I bought a set of Moog camber bolts similar to those.
The one's I posted are MOOG. These allow (neg) 1-3/4 to (pos) 1-3/4 degree
What are the other brands that give you different camber adjustment angles?
Thanks
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 04:08 PM
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Pretty sure Moog makes different degree ones. Been several years ago when I did the springs.
I recall seeing several different degrees offset that were available.
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 04:12 PM
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There are hundreds of brands of camber bolts. Most I've seen give 3 1/2 degree total adjustment. I have seen them from $5-$30 they all appear to be the same to me; a bolt with an offset adapter and a nut.

Warning: after installed you will need alignment regularly. Good idea to have new struts when installed to save the extra alignment. They don't come with instructions, so get an experienced person to install them.
Old Dec 17, 2017 | 04:51 PM
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Warning: after installed you will need alignment regularly. Good idea to have new struts when installed to save the extra alignment. They don't come with instructions, so get an experienced person to install them.
Why? The eccentric bolt will be tightened so it doesn't rotate. If you need another alignment something is wrong or worn in your front end.
I can see new struts if the mounting holes to the spindles is egg shaped, for one reason or another.
And of coarse the bolts don't come with instructions. There meant to be installed by a qualified front end shop.
I say all this because I've done many alignments in my life.
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