How clean does it look in there? Have you tugged on the chain to see if it stays taught? You should look down the chain gallery for evidence of damage to the from guide.

Neglected oil changes can really gunk things up, and even blow out the filter. In such cases, even with an oil change at the time of replacing the solenoid valves, they can get gunked up again very quickly. Have you pulled them to inspect?

Pics welcome.

 

Yeah, tried and the chain is tight, looked down at the guides that I can see and they look good. Pulled the valves out when I pulled the intake off and they were still clean. I'm lost with it now. Didn't really want to change out the chain but at least I would've known that was the problem if it was loose.

 

Could try a new solenoid valve, but with a P0017, I'd be very nervous. IF the chains are fine (and I doubt it,) that leaves the camshaft positioner, AKA phaser.

My car, those miles, P0017? Chain job, with new phasers, if no other explanation for the P0017 is found. (Normal, no new sprockets.)

But I wouldn't be terribly surprised it was a bad solenoid valve all along.

Comes down to, is the car worth it?

 

Seeing as the causes listed for P0017 #1 is a stretched chain, and the only way the cams and crankshaft can be out of time is a bad phaser or stretched chain, I concur, replace the chains and the phasers. As for the P0014, it’s plausible the Dorman solenoid has failed so replace them.

 

Good news! And super cheap fix! Chain to me just didn't look bad at all and all guides (that I can see) looked good so I went to a local Advance auto that was closing down and got a felpro valve cover gasket set for $5.20 (Reg $51.99) and they even had 2 oem GM solenoids that were $86.99 each for $3.50 each so I put it back together with the new solenoids and did a oil change, reset the codes and it fired up and runs great. Drove it and checked codes and it just showed the unclearable permanent code p0014, nothing pending. Drove it a couple more times and checked again and no codes at all and the permanent code is gone too. I got lucky this time. Even found a set of AC Delco iridium plugs that were $12.99 each for 60 cents. Still having a abs/esc/traction control issue but at least I avoided a chain job. Thanks for all the help.

You guys may want to check any Advance Auto stores near you to see if any are going out of business. They have great deals on stuff!

 

Your ESC problems are probably from the P0014.

 

It's been giving me problems for a while. Codes C0035, C0045 Changed the front drivers side hub first and it didn't help. Have a new rear hub but didn't put it on yet cause I'm thinking there might be something else going on since the front hub didn't help.

 

Double check that wire harnesses, are they secured to their mounting points? Is the connector clean and connected securely?

 

Connector is clean. Haven't gone any further than that though. Been wanting to check the voltage to it to be sure it wasn't a wiring problem but didn't have a chance to yet. Are the front and rear tied in somehow? Just asking cause it seems strange that both would go bad at the same time?

 

They are intertwined thru the abs computer