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Old 05-17-2018, 12:42 PM
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no crank/ignition switch voltage

this started as an intermittent problem. since i can't get my mechanic/nephew to even look at this car i'm trying to figure it out on my own. i've checked the battery, fuses, relays and grounds. i took the power probe to the ignition switch. in the run position i'm getting 5v on the white/black wire. with the switch in the on position i get nothing on the white wire, but if i unplug it i'm getting .3v as a static reading. i'm inclined to think it is the switch but i hate to spend the money and that not be it.


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Old 05-17-2018, 12:48 PM
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The ignition switch does not work the way you think it does. Your readings may be just fine.

What year/model
Recalls done?
What exactly is the problem?

The usual problem is the connections between the top and bottom of the under hood fuse box.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:52 PM
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09 hhr panel 2.2l

if it's in the fuse box this old lady is up a creek.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:53 PM
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You did not actually state the problem.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:55 PM
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This guy at least shows how to get to the problem area. Don't listen to his diagnostics.

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Old 05-17-2018, 12:57 PM
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it's an intermittent no crank problem. right now it's dead in the water at work
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
This guy at least shows how to get to the problem area. Don't listen to his diagnostics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sdq0EaNyg
pbbbbbt! i can do that! but it is a job for tomorrow morning

thx!
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:31 PM
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The ignition switch only has one wire, a resistor in the switch controls which signal is sent, run or crank. The BCM then send signals to the various relays and systems.

The choices are relays, fuses, wires or connectors. Intermittent makes it really difficult. If many systems are involved I.E.: you have several engine codes it is usually the fuse box is misbehaving.

If there are no codes you should look at the battery the starter and the alternator.
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You know that the hhr was part of the recall for the ignition switch. That's why donbrew asked about recall status.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:43 PM
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no open recalls, battery is hot, even tried a new one. i'll have to get someone under it to check the starter and the alternator wasn't acting wonky.
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