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Fuel Pump Warning

Old Oct 10, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by XXL
I don't think that's right. According to my calculations, there are 48 hectares in a kilojoule. Multiply that by pi, and you get cubic liters per yard. From there, if you do a simple conversion, you find that... yep... 2.54 million miles. Just like I posted earlier.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by themoodman
The fuel pump on our HHRs is in the fuel tank and so is the fuel filter.
So what?
I just found out the hard way that you should not drive often with less than 1/4 of a tank of gas;
During the normal?! operation of the pump, its submerged in the fuel and this keeps it cool.
If you drive much with less than a 1/4 of a tank, part of the pump is not submerged in fuel anymore and it OVERHEATS.
An overheated pump fails eventually.
Mine went out at 54,000 miles, and yes I used to drive until the Low Fuel warning came on.
The pump cost $380.00, 2hours shop labor, and a tow truck came t $660.00 with tax, the only repair I've ever needed on my 2006 2.2 LS.
I would never discourage anyone from not having more than a 1/4 tank of fuel but it may not be as important as we think. The fuel system in the HHR consists of a pump integral in the tank mounted inside a fuel pump module with strainer and is a returnless-on-demand design meaning the fuel pressure regulator is part of the fuel pump module eliminating the need for a fuel return line from the fuel rails. This eliminates warm fuel re-entering the tank reducing the internal temperature of the fuel. The main objective is to lower emissions but at the same time the resultant cooler fuel contributes to fuel pump longevity.
Old Oct 18, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfman
Has anybody ever taken the time to look for an access panel for the fuel pump in the HHR? Practically every other vehicle that I've checked that has an in-tank pump has had an access panel under the back seat. Granted we may have some extra plastic to remove given all of the little hidey-holes that GM put into these cars, but I would still want to think that there is an easier way than dropping the fuel tank.
There is no access panel in the floor pan to the fuel pump locking ring in the tank top. The fuel tank has to be removed to access the pump itself. The fuel pump module seal must be replaced at re-installation. Some fuel pump locking rings are stamped 'do no reuse', but if not damaged during removal and they check flat and undistorted they may be reused. There is a special lock ring removal tool to prevent damage to the locking ring.
Old Oct 19, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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[QUOTE=RaineMan;417717]Another thing I guess they don't teach drivers anymore... along with checking your fluids and air pressure levels regularly don't constantly ride around at 1/4 tank or less. It will burn your pump up.

Typically it isn't an issue for folks... as most normal people fill up when they get to 1/4 or so. However, the higher gas prices climb the more people try to "Just put $5 or $10 in." and make it by. This issue was actually first noticed during the OPEC Embargo back in the late 1970's, when people were limited to 5 or 10 gallons at a time.

Amazing... just think if "Drivers Ed" actually taught you important things about vehicles instead of how to stop for a school bus.[/QUOTE



Then it would be called "auto mechanics" instead of "drivers ed". Stopping for school busses is actually kind of important if you happen to have kids or grandkids.
Old Oct 19, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Driving off the 'top half' is a habit I developed years ago,when I lived in cold climates. Helps keep the condensation down in cold weather, as well as now helping to cool the fuel pump in newer cars.
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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I usually fill up around 1/2 tank level except when I'm on a road trip. I have only had the low fuel light come on once after driving from Opal Va to Manning SC, stopping in Holly Springs NC. One the road I can drive ~450 miles or more on a tank full.

The fuel pump in the tank is a screwy idea IMHO.
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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Well I learned something today - I never knew about this I hope I am one of the lucky ones as I have had my low gas light come on several times, it will be better planning on my part going forward!
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