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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 12:25 PM
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Well, here I am again requesting your help.
To recap: the car will usually start and run, but really rough at first. This only happens when first starting it. After we drive and stop, it starts with no issues.
I have:
Replaced the battery with a OEM fit Die Hard Gold battery
Replaced the spark plugs with the OEM AC Delco plugs
Used the CDC MAF spray and thoroughly cleaned the MAF
Cleaned the throttle body with CDC TB cleaner
Did a battery lobotomy.
And it still starts rough in fits and starts then smooth out and run fine.
Their are no codes

So what is next??
Old Oct 3, 2020 | 12:43 PM
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You installed the 41-103 spark plugs?

What were the results of the fuel pressure test?
Old Oct 3, 2020 | 01:32 PM
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Yes, I installed the 41-103 plugs.
I have no way to do the fuel pressure test. o I guess I should now tke it to shop for that?
Wouldn't low fuel pressure affect the driving too, not just the start up?
Old Oct 3, 2020 | 03:42 PM
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Low fuel pressure at start-up can be caused by a leaky check valve in the fuel pump.
This will not effect driving as the fuel pump itself is providing the correct pressure.
A fuel pressure gauge can be rented from AZ.
Old Oct 3, 2020 | 05:47 PM
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You should start a new thread for a new problem.

You can "borrow" a fuel pressure test kit from most auto parts stores (AutoZone, Advance, O'Reilly etc).
Old Oct 3, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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I'll do whatever you say, but this is the ongoing problem I started with. I have done all of your recommended fixes and was asking what to do next. You all have been very helpful, so I don't want to cause a problem. I'm not a computer guy, don't do social media at all, so these threads and posts are all new to me. Just trying to fix my car
Old Oct 3, 2020 | 07:04 PM
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Then stay with this thread, that’s ok!
some parts palaces will require you leave the parking lot to test your car, some have area’s to check out your car with their loaner tools.
fuel pressure test is pretty easy, but if your nervous, take it to a shop you know and trust!
Old Oct 3, 2020 | 09:15 PM
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I went to Auto Zone and got a kit. I'll check the pressure tomorrow. Fingers crossed
Old Oct 4, 2020 | 01:06 PM
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OK, I put the fuel gauge on it. 55 psi and it holds at 55 for 10 minutes, so I guess I can eliminate that as a potential issue in the hard starts.
Whats next?
Old Oct 5, 2020 | 07:58 AM
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Ok, good you’ve confirmed it’s not the fuel pump .
Are you aware of the coolant level amd how old the coolant is?



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