Rusted Fuel Line
Noticed fuel smell from rear drivers side the other day. Put the car up on the ramps. One of the 2 fuel lines (the top one) is rusted and leaking. The line runs right along the rocker panel and the rusted spot is right in front of the rear tire. Guess the midwest winters have not been kind to my car. Anyone else with this issue? This appears to be a problem with the Saturn Ions of the same vintage. Can it be patched by removing the rusted section or will the whole line have to be replaced? Thanks for any advice
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If there is only a small spot in the line you can rear the line with a compression fitting. If the line has mutable bad places in it I would look into replacing the complete line. If the problem is close to the end you may be able to find a repair end at your local part store.
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Originally Posted by Lucky
(Post 725017)
If there is only a small spot in the line you can rear the line with a compression fitting. If the line has mutable bad places in it I would look into replacing the complete line. If the problem is close to the end you may be able to find a repair end at your local part store.
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Snoop- once repaired, perhaps some type of undercoating or paint over the gas lines (& maybe brake lines) might be worthwhile to prevent future rust-outs..
Just sayin'.. |
Thanks Sleeper-good advice
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What size lines are needed to make this repair?
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I'm not sure. I'm guessing 5/16.
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From the othe thread you asked in, from Grizzly Old Man
The fuel line is 3/8" the return line is 1/4" When mine rusted out I used fuel injection rated hose to replace the rusted bit. If you use the rubber hose be sure to get fuel injection rated hose clamps. The regular screw clamps even if they are stainless steel will fail because the hose is under pressure. |
I couldn't remember for sure.
So it is 3/8 fuel line our hhr's don't use a fuel return line because the fuel regulator is in the tank. (Except ss model) the 1/4 inch line is a fuel vapor line but I would repair it the same as a fuel line using fuel injection rated hose. If repairing with hose I use a double flare tool to both ends of the metal fuel line to give the hose something to grab onto. |
I just had the same thing happen to my 2008 HHR, and the tech at the dealership said that they are seeing about 3 of these show up a month. Cobalt's and HHR's
Just a note, If this happens when your car is in an attached garage, be carful with the fumes. |
fuel line size plz
My 07 HHR 2.4 LT fuel line is rusted out now too.
What is the size id od of the fuel line please. Mine looks like 3/8 od. Thanks in advance. |
The sizes are mentioned in some of the previous posts in this thread.
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My fuel and vapour lines are both 3/8 or 10mm
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I just had the shop make new nylon lines for mine... They used 3/8 inch line.
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Originally Posted by Greybeard999
(Post 846891)
I just had the shop make new nylon lines for mine... They used 3/8 inch line.
I did find this video: |
No pictures... I haven't been under the car since this was done. Rarely am I under a car and have a camera.
What they used is a nylon tubing made for fuel lines (I don't know a brand) that they have the tools to heat and properly form the bends matching the original lines and use the original hangers. (no zip tied hose strapped somewhere to the frame) Basically it's like the nylon pre-formed kits, but they make it themselves in house. It's central Ohio, they do a lot of this stuff... |
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
(Post 846892)
I did find this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHaBTDMc5nM |
Evidently, all of the connectors are available from any store that stocks Dorman products.
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I had mine fixed about a year ago and somewhere on this board it was suggested that we call gm and report that this was a problem. I also read that we should notify the national transportation safety board and let them know so that maybe this will be part of a recall.
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Nope, after all the years since the HHR was produced, no recall. they shuffled off the rusty fuel lines on my 1988 Oldsmobile Cierra, 1984 Camaro Z28 and others. You can report if you like, but don’t expect anything. |
#Met00
Rusted out fuel line that was wrapped in fiberglass. $650 Repair. NTSB needs to look at this.
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Originally Posted by Cicak
(Post 853144)
NTSB needs to look at this.
Look at what? |
"Wrapped in fiberglass"? Not from the factory!
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The wrap around the fuel lines near the exhaust pipe, that insulation wrap. |
Sounds like a huge rip-off for a $25 repair.
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Originally Posted by Greybeard999
(Post 853149)
Look at what?
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x2, plus it is an 11 year old vehicle.
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I’ve pulled a few old cars out from behind the barn, the first thing is new fuel and brake lines. Now , I’m talking about a maybe 8 year old Pontiac T37 LeMan, 1972. It wasn’t down in the mud. But in the fall of 1980, those fuel lines were gone! |
It's not a matter of if the fuel lines will leak, it's when. They corrode from the outside from road salt and dirt holding moisture around the clamps and the inside from the alcohol in the fuel. GM claims it only happens in northern states but NHTSA has reports of vehicles sold new in Phoenix Arizona that never left the state that corroded. They needed to be made of stainless steel or a plastic. You can repair it yourself with hose rated to handle 60 psi fuel pressure. Most repair shops will only replace the lines with factory or aftermarket lines because of liability concerns. The factory lines are expensive. Lines to Go has the sets for under $200. They sell thousands of them. https://www.linestogo.com/hhr-fuel-lines/
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Greybeard had someone replace lines with plastic, I was tempted after I replaced mine with one piece lines from these same folks. https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-HHR-F...2329600?_ul=CA |
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UGGG on the Fuel Lines
I just replaced my 09's with single oem front to back metal type set from Inline Tube. Everyone... it's a good thing I have a lift and "A Guy" to help me with the installation. Turned out great but a chore. 6 hrs. for the two of us. The insulation and brackets are the culprits.
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