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Old Apr 12, 2024 | 11:41 AM
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Starts and runs for 3 mins then dies

07 chevy hhr 2.4l need some help

So my friend has a HHR, she's been having some issues with. It starts up just fine but will only run for about 3 mins then starts running rough and dies. she put oil in it a while ago well she put way to much, so I changed the oil. Pulled the codes there was 9, I cleared them started it again, ran then died. 4 codes came back. P0030 p0108 p0132 p0315. I cleaned the MAF, put a new air filter in it, it ran longer maybe 5 mins but eventually did the same thing. Any help would be appreciated, I hope she didn't screw something up by putting so much oil in it. I drained like 9 quarts... also when it is running it idles at 1k rpm. I have a list of the 9 original codes if that would help.
Old Apr 12, 2024 | 11:59 AM
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Possibly an O2 sensor problem

https://www.obd-codes.com/p0030

https://www.obd-codes.com/p0132

Possibly a MAP sensor issue

https://www.obd-codes.com/p0108


Very probable timing issue

https://www.obd-codes.com/p0315

Check these all out, inspect the wiring and connections the oil might have caused the O2 sensor problem, but the crank sensor relearn or stretched timing chain or broken front guide could be the root cause
Old Apr 12, 2024 | 12:19 PM
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I'll be working on it tomorrow was planning on checking the map sensor, it's easy enough to get to. My biggest fear is a timing a issue. Honestly she's beat the hell out of the car, I'm not trying to tear into it and spend a bunch of money just trying to get her back on the road. I appreciate the quick reply.
Old Apr 12, 2024 | 02:40 PM
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Just thinking, If the timing was off would it run fine like it does for a few mins? What's the easiest way to check the timing chain? I read something about pulling a valve cover. Also when I first pulled the codes and got 9, p0315 was not one of them. It was after I cleared them it popped up.
Old Apr 12, 2024 | 03:32 PM
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If timing was an issue the codes would be P0010-P0017, and too much oil could not do it. Why would you suspect timing issues due to high oil level?
P0315 tells me someone that did not know what they were doing changed the ECM at some time. The crankshaft sensor needs to be learned with a computer.
Check fuse #41 and #33 and #45 under hood
Has the ignition switch recall been done? Link in my sig to check.
Using a key that used to work; with the + in a circle icon on it?
P0108 indicates the the low ref to the MAP sensor is OPEN or the MAP sensor is broken.

Yes, the codes are needed. If you cleared them or disconnected the battery that just masks the problems.

I would unplug the ECM and inspect all of the pins for bent or loose/pushed out the back.

Old Apr 12, 2024 | 05:12 PM
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P0010 p0030 p0053 p0106 p0108 p0100 p3201 p3503 p1504 are the codes that came up before I cleared anything. I was thinking possible timing issues due to the p0315 code not necessarily due to the oil level. She's had the car for about a year and was jump starting it for a long time finally got a new battery recently, that's all that's been done to it since she got it. She says when she got the new battery at o Reilly's they tested the alternator and said it's going bad, she just told me this...
Old Apr 12, 2024 | 06:34 PM
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That would explain the crankshaft position sensor needing to be relearned
new solenoids might be avoided by cleaning them they might have been damaged by the excess engine oil.
timing chain might not be the issue . The solution might just be relearning the sensor, and keeping the oil clean.
Old Apr 12, 2024 | 07:37 PM
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Clear the codes and see what returns.
Old Apr 12, 2024 | 08:59 PM
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The only way for P0315 is a new unprogrammed ECM. It means there is a blank in the data matrix where the crankshaft variation is supposed to be.
The P3503 might have something to do with the #1 O2 sensor circuit, P3201 is about the crank sensor circuit. P1504 refers to a idle air control system that the HHR does not have. They all indicate low voltage[ with this new information... duh.
Old Apr 12, 2024 | 09:21 PM
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Really appreciate everyone's input, I'll be reporting back I'm sure with more questions tomorrow. Thanks



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