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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 02:05 PM
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Yes, my rear bushings are completely shot; I thought it would be simpler to replace the entire control arm…
Possibly. The available ZZP control arms will include the standard type rear bushing. Replacing the rear bushings gives you options and will likely cost less.

The standard rear bushing is a rubber flexture between an inner and outer steel sleeve. Some of the aftermarket replacements appear to be of poor quality and fail quickly.

ZZP offers what they call a “solid” bushing to differentiate it from some OEM bushings that have slits to lessen flexing stress, but are suspected of being less durable and/or too flexible for optimal performance.

Moog offers a “Problem Solver” substitute that replaces the rubber flexture with a spherical plain bearing (“ball-and-socket”) and adds rubber grease seals. (Two versions, actually. The gold-colored K201285 is best for installation in aluminum.) OTTP offers a similar one. These offer more precise steering and most accounts these are more reliable and durable, making them popular for high-performance and competition. The downside is they offer no give or dampening like the rubber does, so the suspension can feel harsher, and any noise due to other loose parts might be worse.


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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 07:11 AM
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If you clicked on the link you should have noted that BOTH 19.5 am 20.5 are listed, you have to select which. 2 minutes ago the 19.5 was grayed out, only the LNF is available.
https://zzperformance.com/collection...40536681840702
The 19.5 and 20.5 Control Arms are on 2 different pages on ZZP's website, therefore, there's 2 different links. I didn't understand this at first. Like you, I thought you should be able to pull up the Control Arms and then select the Ball Joint shaft diameter, but it doesn't work that way. To make matters worse, the link provided by OldBlue in the sticky thread, takes you to directly to the page with the 19.5 Ball Joints and it won't let you change it to 20.5.
Old Mar 6, 2025 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PulpFriction
QUOTE=Rocky1974;954478]Yes, my rear bushings are completely shot; I thought it would be simpler to replace the entire control arm…
Possibly. The available ZZP control arms will include the standard type rear bushing. Replacing the rear bushings gives you options and will likely cost less.

The standard rear bushing is a rubber flexture between an inner and outer steel sleeve. Some of the aftermarket replacements appear to be of poor quality and fail quickly.

ZZP offers what they call a “solid” bushing to differentiate it from some OEM bushings that have slits to lessen flexing stress but are suspected of being less durable and/or too flexible for optimal performance.

Moog offers a “Problem Solver” substitute that replaces the flexture with a spherical plain bearing (ball-and-socket) with rubber grease seals. (Two versions, actually. The gold-colored K201285 is best for installation in aluminum.) OTTP offers a similar one. These offer more precise steering and most accounts these are more reliable and durable, making them popular for high-performance and competition. The downside is they offer no give or dampening like the rubber does, so can feel harsher and any noise due to other loose parts worse.

I ordered a pair of those, Thanks
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocky1974
The 19.5 and 20.5 Control Arms are on 2 different pages on ZZP's website, therefore, there's 2 different links. I didn't understand this at first. Like you, I thought you should be able to pull up the Control Arms and then select the Ball Joint shaft diameter, but it doesn't work that way. To make matters worse, the link provided by OldBlue in the sticky thread, takes you to directly to the page with the 19.5 Ball Joints and it won't let you change it to 20.5.
Thanks for the heads up, I've replaced the link with their new link.
Old Mar 6, 2025 | 10:08 AM
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My posted links in post #5 and 7 allow you to select the correct ball joint stub diameter. The ZZP LCAs are not offered with the Moog bushing bearings.
Old Mar 6, 2025 | 10:38 AM
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Worked for me.
Old Mar 6, 2025 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Worked for me.
Pulp linked to a thread in post #3. In that thread, Oldblue linked to zzp control arm. It was correct at the time, but zzp must have made some changes. I've corrected that link.
Old Mar 6, 2025 | 11:16 AM
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Thanks, I’ll be in the CT scanner for 45 minutes or so!
Old Mar 7, 2025 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Worked for me.
More and more, what the users sees might be device or browser dependent. (“M dot” pages in particular, but not the only case.) So it’s best not to completely assume (or insist) that everyone will see the exact same thing when they click a particular link. That’s even true here.
Old Mar 7, 2025 | 11:35 AM
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Perhaps instead of posting a link , I’ll go back to a suggestion of the site! ZZP.com then search LNF lower control arms, or ball joints.



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